Glutathione: What dosage do you use? Where do you get it?

Posted by kathleenlp @kathleenlp, Apr 4, 2022

Hi! Yes, I have ALL these but doing surprisingly well...mostly asymptomatic. Got HMPV at Christmas, pretty sick but bounced back. On a mission to try some out of the box treatments to keep me well. If you have used glutathione in a nebulizer, can you tell me who (type doctor) prescribed and what dosage etc. and did you think it helped? Also Sodium Chloride.

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@wolfplanetzero

Glutathione or GSH patches might be another option. Haven't tried them, so this is not a personal endorsement. I have seen them for sale on Amazon, and other places on the web. A bit cheaper than injections. Herbalist Stephen Harrod Buhner recommends nebulized GHS for his COPD and IPF protocols -- free articles are on his website. Hoping to find a functional doc to work with soon.
"(GSH) is a far better mucolytic than NAC which is
generally all that most physicians will suggest to you. (The studies on the effectiveness of NAC
reveal, over and over, that it is not very good.) Glutathione is better. IF you have this kind of lung
condition or similar, there is often a build up of mucus in the lungs. This is a perfect breeding
ground for infectious organisms; it also interferes with breathing. The use of a mucolytic is, in
this kind of disease, essential." - Buhner

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FYI Stephen Harrod Buhner just passed away from Pulmonary Fibrosis. He thinks he got it from all the woodworking he did. He should have died in two years, but he lasted about another ten years. He has his protocol on his website. Amazing guy.

I've been taking NAC, which I just found out is from Glutathione. I found Glutathione on iHerb. I didn't read in Pecaut's book that he broke open a capsule and nebbed it with the saline. Interesting.

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@kathleenlp

Hi Nan!!
Happy Fourth! Hope you are well!
I am just circling back on the glutathione. I was so focused and determined to get it and did as you know. I just think I am not tolerating it well. I started at the 1 cc dose, just once a day and was experiencing a very heavy chest which is unusual for me. It was almost continuous. So I skipped a day...then went down to .5 dose once and did okay a few times at that dose then heavy chest started again. So I skipped a couple days...went away. So tried again and heavy chest returned even at the lower dose. Have you ever noticed this when you use it?
I remember reading an article/study when I researched the glutathione that said it can make asthma symptoms worse in some people especially very asymptomatic people. I have never had Asthma symptoms except the very infrequent heavy chest. Anyway, I think I am going to have to stop the G. Bummed.
Also do you practice airway clearance techniques, Nan? If so, what do you do? These also seem to aggravate the heck out of my lungs and rarely do I have any results. If I do it is a miniscule amount of clearish to slightly pale yellow mucus. Sometimes I actually feel something move when I do the coughs after but then nothing makes it out. One pulmonary told me don't do it but they really emphasis the importance of this in everything I read.
One exciting thing is the head of a prestigious medical school here is taking me on as a patient of sorts. He is a friend of a friend. President of this University and also a pulmonary specialist that did his fellowship at National Jewish! He has assembled a team of specialists to review all my history and I will meet with them Wed. I have already had 2 one hour calls with him. He is so sharp and very thorough. I am curious to see what they come up with and then what from there....not sure if this is a one time thing (sort of a consult) but he said worse case he would get me into Denver. But he does not especially feel I will need that. He was happy with everything I am doing but had NO COMMENT on the glutathione 8-))))
Thanks, Nan!!

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Hi Kathleen,
Sounds like we have the same set of lungs. My lungs produce very little mucus. It is a real feat to produce mucus for a lab sample.

However, I do the airway clearance. I squeeze my lungs to get out all the air and that can be productive.

Let us know how it went with your appointment with the guy who's taking you on.

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@tsipora

Hi Kathleen,
Sounds like we have the same set of lungs. My lungs produce very little mucus. It is a real feat to produce mucus for a lab sample.

However, I do the airway clearance. I squeeze my lungs to get out all the air and that can be productive.

Let us know how it went with your appointment with the guy who's taking you on.

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Hi Tsipora
I did finally get the glutathione from a functional MD doc but though I tried multiple times, it did not agree with me. Made my chest very tight for days, coughing(I am pretty asymptomatic with MAC, Aspergillus and bronchiectasis) I tried a tiny bit, a little more etc. I tolerate the 7% saline and other meds fine. If you read up on it, this reaction is common depending on your condition. I wish I could because that is really the best way for us to get the advantages of it.
She recommended nebulizing Biociden which I did take sublingually with her for 3 months. (may have done away with the Aspergillus) Read up on that product, very good review/reports. But I was uncomfortable nebulizing as it says nothing about that...I even called the company and they said though thousands are doing it, they cannot recommend it as FDA does not approve. It also seems a little oily to me which does not seem like a good thing to neb. The SC has been the biggest help to me so far and the Biociden I keep and take if I am around someone sick or I start feeling a little off etc and definitely helps(under the tongue). I do the glutathione under the tongue...not sure it does anything but it boosts immunity. I also do a big smoothie for my husband and I daily(he has Alzheimer's and doing way above average 8 years in) and rotate lots of immune boosting superfoods + greens + fruit+ nuts+ wild organic berries I order that are supposed to be good for lungs. My last CT in Oct had the actual words "resolved, improved" in multiple areas which was confirmed. One new tiny bad area they do not seem concerned with. Exercise daily as Nan says!! Hope this helps!!

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Regarding the question about Glutathione nebulizing. I get mine from Theranaturals
https://www.theranaturals.com/product/reduced-l-glutathione-plus-enhanced-absorption-ultra-purity-grade/
They have information about how to use it on their website. I break open one capsule and mix it with my 7% hypertonic saline every other day and nebulize it. It has a sulphur taste but for some reason after a few breaths the taste becomes minimal so i can tolerate it ok. For me it does not cause any airway constriction but when i first started using it i do think i noticed that later in the same day. I think it helps to bring up the mucus somewhat. My pulmo knows i use it but he did not prescribe it. I do not think regular Drs do. Only functional Drs seem to recommend it. It may not be for everyone but for me it helps some.

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@kathleenlp

Hi Tsipora
I did finally get the glutathione from a functional MD doc but though I tried multiple times, it did not agree with me. Made my chest very tight for days, coughing(I am pretty asymptomatic with MAC, Aspergillus and bronchiectasis) I tried a tiny bit, a little more etc. I tolerate the 7% saline and other meds fine. If you read up on it, this reaction is common depending on your condition. I wish I could because that is really the best way for us to get the advantages of it.
She recommended nebulizing Biociden which I did take sublingually with her for 3 months. (may have done away with the Aspergillus) Read up on that product, very good review/reports. But I was uncomfortable nebulizing as it says nothing about that...I even called the company and they said though thousands are doing it, they cannot recommend it as FDA does not approve. It also seems a little oily to me which does not seem like a good thing to neb. The SC has been the biggest help to me so far and the Biociden I keep and take if I am around someone sick or I start feeling a little off etc and definitely helps(under the tongue). I do the glutathione under the tongue...not sure it does anything but it boosts immunity. I also do a big smoothie for my husband and I daily(he has Alzheimer's and doing way above average 8 years in) and rotate lots of immune boosting superfoods + greens + fruit+ nuts+ wild organic berries I order that are supposed to be good for lungs. My last CT in Oct had the actual words "resolved, improved" in multiple areas which was confirmed. One new tiny bad area they do not seem concerned with. Exercise daily as Nan says!! Hope this helps!!

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What is the SC you refer to? Thanks

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BreatheMD/FLCCC website says to nebulize saline by taking a clean neti pot and filling it with distilled water to the max line then using 2 saline packets and shaking. That is much less expensive than the 7% vials.

"Use a nebulizer or a humidifier to inhale salt water. Mix the water in a Neil-Med sinus rinse bottle using 2 packets of saline instead of 1 and add to your nebulizer or humidifier. "

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Also for those who are interested in oral NAC, swanson vitamins sells Ajipure NAC which is pharmaceutical grade.

"AjiPure® Pharmaceutical Grade N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (NAC)600 mg"

Swanson Ultra

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@brent99

BreatheMD/FLCCC website says to nebulize saline by taking a clean neti pot and filling it with distilled water to the max line then using 2 saline packets and shaking. That is much less expensive than the 7% vials.

"Use a nebulizer or a humidifier to inhale salt water. Mix the water in a Neil-Med sinus rinse bottle using 2 packets of saline instead of 1 and add to your nebulizer or humidifier. "

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That protocol on FLCCC was recommended for people trying to recover after Covid and meant for washing through the nasal passages - not to be inhaled deeply into already damaged lungs.
The accepted protocol by experts in treating MAC and Bronchiectasis is to use sterile 4ml vials of saline meant for internal use in a rigorously cleaned and frequently sterilized nebulizer.

There are numerous issues with the open mixing process. To stay sterile, you need to begin with a sterilized container and sterile water. You will have several ounces of solution; you only need 4ml or less than 1/2 tsp, once or twice a day. How do you keep it sterile? It is very easily contaminated, and needs to be discarded daily. When sterile water or normal saline is opened and used for wound irrigation, clearing IV tubing or other purposes, it must be discarded after 24 hours.

I would double-check this process with my doc - I think contamination risk is high, and I am working too hard to keep germs OUT of my already damaged lungs.
Sue

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Any suggestions for fair priced vials? Amazon is $1 each

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@nannette

@kathleenlp I nebulize with 7% saline and glutathione. If you don't do anything else I would wholeheartedly suggest the 7% saline solution. I swear I think it keeps the lungs clean, thins the mucus and holds back the mycobacterium. There are two types of glutathione you can use (to my knowledge). One is the more expensive that comes in a little vial that you take out with a needle and measure about 1 ml and I add it to my saline solution of 4ml. I get that from my functional medicine doctor. My pulmonologist kind of rolled his eyes at me when I asked him for it. The other less expensive method is to buy the bottle of capsules by Theranaturals, called L-Glutathione Plus. You take a capsule, open it with your hands (of course not touching the powder) and put it in the your cup of saline solution. It bubbles up a little and then stops. It's much less expensive for sure. So I alternate doing each one since the liquid one is more expensive. Daniel Pecaut in his book "Beating Bronchiectasis" (which is a small paperback book that you can buy on Amazon) was how I learned about the capsules. Does it all work? Who knows for sure. I will tell you, though, for four years now (knock on wood) with two CAT scans I have had no progression and no antibiotics. Not as lucky as Daniel Pecaut but I'll take it. I will also add that I exercise six days a week. (two or three days at the gym with aerobic classes and weights and the other days a 2 mile power walk outside)...all for the cardio to the keep the lungs working. Hope that helps. Nan

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Hello....I am new to this forum and new to bronchiectasis. I had just learned how to pronounce bronchoscopy and then they threw the other "b" word at me.

I have already ordered the L-Glutathione Plus. I read a lot about it, and it can't hurt!!! How often do you nebulize with it.....once a day, twice a day??????

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