Glutathione: What dosage do you use? Where do you get it?
Hi! Yes, I have ALL these but doing surprisingly well...mostly asymptomatic. Got HMPV at Christmas, pretty sick but bounced back. On a mission to try some out of the box treatments to keep me well. If you have used glutathione in a nebulizer, can you tell me who (type doctor) prescribed and what dosage etc. and did you think it helped? Also Sodium Chloride.
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@lilianna I took the big three antibiotics back in 2016 and haven't taken any since. So I didn't start using glutathione until probably 2019 when I started seeing my functional medicine doctor. Nan
How much powder of glutathione do you mix with the saline?
https://www.theranaturals.com/product/reduced-l-glutathione-plus-enhanced-absorption-ultra-purity-grade/
1 capsule of this brand
@sallyb827 With the powder you break open one capsule and it mixes in with the saline. It will bubble a little but then settle down. With the liquid glutathione I use 1 ml with the 4ml neb of saline. Nan
I would highly recommend it! My integrative doctor at Integrative Health Practices in Ellicott City Maryland put me on TheraNaturals L-Glutathione Plus (100 capsules $41) to nebulize. Going on 2 years still using the first bottle. When my hospital pulmonologist tried to enroll me in the clinical trial, he said I was too well to enter, lol. The advantage, I hope, of this product being produced by a pharmaceutical company is insurance coverage but if anything is added (now I simply use 1 capsule to 1/2 teaspoon of distilled water), I’ll probably stick to my current method.
In addition to the breathing benefits, nebulizing is helping to remove mold from my lungs. Participation in a clinical trial establishing the micro biome of the lung led to identifying 2 colonies of mold in my lungs.
When a traditional pulmonologist at teaching hospital in my home town first looked at my lung imaging, he differentiated between damage caused my mold and damage caused by bronchiectasis. When I asked how to remove the mold, he told me it was not possible to remove. Happily, he was incorrect.
How often do you neb the Glutathione since one bottle is lasting so long?
Download the app Autogenic drainage (either apple or android). The app looks like a set of lungs. I have just been diagnosed with bronchiectasis. I use an aerobika attached to the ombra compressed and nebulizer cups (green which is boilable). There are instructions as well how to use the aerobika on line for best breathing technique. After I'm done with the 7a%sodium solution and do the breathing with the aerobika attached I do the aerobika breathing g technique to bring up what I can. After that I use the Autogenic app which I just started but have found to be helpful and easier to help bring up more mucus. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask anything - it's how I've been learning!
My pulmonologist has never even suggested nebulizing glutathione - with 7% saline, but I'm thinking it might be helpful. I stopped the triple antibiotics about 9 months ago, with the doc's ok because they didn't seem to be working. Only once in the 16 months did I have a negative with a sputum culture. Can anyone share your experience with glutathione and how to use it?
I have a functional Dr I started seeing last year to try and get to the root cause of why I was getting pneumonia often (4 x since 2020) last August was my last. I cleaned up my gut with diet and supplements and take digestive enzymes with every meal/snack. I did a mycotoxin text and showed one major mold. I did a detox but couldn't complete it at the time. I had the house tested and treated for molds and had vents cleaned out. Added a uv lamp (no ozone) to our hvac and a 5" filter box to help keep hvac/vents free of toxins. I've nebulized glutathione a couple different times. June 30th I was diagnosed with bronchiectasis. Sputum sample hasn't come back yet for NTM's.
Here's the thing ... my specialized pulmanologist in a center for bronchiectasis and NTM's isn't familiar with glutathione and I'm sure would poo poo this. However I've read there are studies being conducted for its benefits for these damaged lungs. Another group I'm in as well and have adopted a high level sanitizing, precautions and preventions has a strict protocol and won't promote anything outside of ACT's, and all the other typical nebulizing protocols of sodium chloride and a pre bronchodilator to help open the airways first.
I shave a followup with functional Dr next week.
I've been reading studies on using NAC that now don't support using that because of cilia being inhibited.
I'm so thoroughly confused on what to believe anymore, what's safe and what's not. I'm overwhelmed in trying to make good decisions
You probably speak for many of us when you say "...I'm so thoroughly confused on what to believe anymore, what's safe and what's not. I'm overwhelmed in trying to make good decisions.."
It's the old story - the more I learn, the less I know - and I have been fully immersed in studying about Bronchiectasis, MAC/NTM, Pseudomonas and Asthma for over seven years since my diagnosis.
I know than nebulized glutathione has shown some promise for people with Cystic Fibrosis, but that studies for those of us with other conditions have been limited. For a while I used the precursor of glutathione, NAC (N Acetyl Cysteine) as an oral supplement to help thin the mucus and reduce the inflammation in my lungs. It worked for a few months, but when my infection lessened, so did the benefit I was seeing and I stopped.
Every few days, I see or hear of a supplement that has helped some people with my conditions, but usually the research behind it is slim to non-existent.
What do I do? Follow the research - even retrospective reviews of small studies can help. If there is no solid research, done using proper scientific methods to exclude bias, provide a control group, and track all participants, I give it a pass.
I try to be inclusive - taking in research from modern science and medicine, traditional practices, Oriental medicine and alternative practices - BUT it must be properly conducted, not just based on tradition or trials outside the human body, such as on animals or in-vitro (test tube/lab.) I especially appreciate some of the studies coming out of Asia because they seem to dedicate a lot of resources to research.
Another criteria I have is that it must be SAFE. To me that means not introducing foreign substances (including prescription drugs) into my lungs until I understand what they are, how they work, and what the downsides might be. My lungs are fragile enough without experimenting on them.
People in this group often suggest treatments like glutathione, inhaled essential oils, daily sinus rinses, even garlic (allicin.) Some are safe, some not so much. I always bring these to my pulmonologist first - I was even skeptical of 7% saline at first because it sounded so harsh - but it has been a game-changer for me.
I have used alternative medicine practices for many years - PT, chiropractic, massage, acupuncture, myofascial release therapy, some homeopathic and traditional oriental medicines...but if my pulmonologist isn't on-board with something going into my lungs, I trust her education and experience.