The Loneliness

Posted by Gratia @gratia, 4 days ago

How do you manage the profoundly lonely moments as a caregiver for your loved one with dementia? I’m a person who absolutely enjoys and needs a lot of “alone time”, however this situation somehow makes me feel much more lonely. And sad. Very sad. It’s probably the limited and circular conversations coupled with the loss of social life and work.
Thank you for listening.
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I just want to give all of you a big hug. I too miss the person my husband used to be but with God's help I have come to accept how he is now and the loneliness for that person who could be so funny and smart. I try to make the best of each day I have left with him. He is now at the stage where all he does is sleep all day except for when I get him up for meals. It seems that is all he has the mental capacity to do. To me it seems that his brain is tired and is preserving its energy for the work needed to sustain his life. He will answer yes or no questions and ask for more of his favorite-drink-half and half. Lots of calories in that to make up for his poor appetite. Every dementia patient is different. So far, I have been trying to determine what he can still do and work with that. My goal is to be sure that he knows he is loved and has me and his kids to take care of him. I will end with a quote I read today on "Nice News". "Being able to feel safe with other people is probably the single most important aspect of mental health". Bessel Van Der Kolk. This is what I am trying to provide to my husband as we go through this journey together. God bless you and send you his angels.

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@georgescraftjr Whether you post often or not, YOU are always on my mind - and I know many others on this connect site. We're a family together in this, day and night, and never forget that. I am horrified that George's son, would tell his father to call 911 and you had to deal with such a troubling experience and one that was embarrassing and upsetting. How do we find positive when family members can't and don't relate because they simply aren't there to see what we go through every day as a caregiver. I'm saddened and disappointed in families - and friends - who remain in denial, do things that create more issues, or do nothing at all. A mere supportive direct call to you, would have solved the issue, and you could have given George the "anxiety" drugs he needs, or you could have called for help. Please know, you are not alone. The fact that you can find positive in what happened speaks to your value and the camaraderie we have on this site. I just wish I was there - we were there - to help you, calm George and take your worry away. Without his son by your side, or even the courtesy of calling you first, when he knows his father is sick, why would he tell his father to do that? I don't know the relationship you have with this son, but I do know it's time to have a come-to-Jesus discussion to prevent him from doing it again. None of us need the "the wrong calvary" to come (the police!) because of a foolish son, who clearly has his own issues, and directs his "confused" father in the worst way. Just breathe today another day, yes...another journey. Love you George's wife.....Karla

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@kjc48

Thanks for your concern.

After the visit from the cops, I asked George's son why he thought law-enforcment intervention was necessary, and the son said that his father was extremely anxious. (George told him that I was threatening to "strip.") I also asked his son why he didn't call me first, or at least, have the decency to warn me that the cops were on there way. His response was: "Because it was an emergency."

P.S. The next day, George cried and apologized for calling "911" but he couldn't remember what caused his anxiety other than to say that he was having hallucinations. (I was home in another room at the time, and I didn't "threaten" to strip. LOL)

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@kjc48

Karla,

Even though I don't post as regularly as you and others do, please know that I am totally connected to all of you and our mutual journey.

I love how all of you keep the passing the baton going--for we are all on the same relay team.

Thanks so much.

Love,
George's Wife

P.S. No matter how bad things have been or can get, at least none of your loved ones has called "911" to report you as a menace.

A few evenings ago, my darling George--at the advice of his son, who did not even call me first to find out my version of reality or give me the heads-up--called "911" because George was hallucinating and he had an anxiety attack. (He said I was threatening "to strip," and that he did not feel save.) Five police officers showed up at our door.

Trying to find the positive in this horrible experience, I convinced myself that God was testing my ability to forgive--to forgive George, and more to the point, to forgive his son.) God was also giving me this experience so that I can be a poster mom for you folks who never had children and who are wishing that you did--so that you would have theoretical help in sharing the responsibility of caregiving. As I have said many times before, "the calvary is not coming"--but we have each other, the members of this Forum, and our devoted director and mentors.

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@georgescraftjr I am so sorry that you had to deal with the police because of George's son's advice to him. I am wondering if contacting the community outreach person at the police department, not the front desk or dispatcher, would be able to allow you to inform the police that your husband has dementia and to keep this in mind when responding to any future calls.
I would ask if they have any policies regarding interacting with dementia patients. They may have to respond to anyone that calls about feeling unsafe because sadly there are cases of abuse of elderly people. But maybe being informed ahead of time would change the tone of the interaction. Just throwing that out there because I think that this is a growing concern for dementia caregivers and perhaps the local police department has not addressed this with a specific policy. I do know that some 911 dispatchers if they are aware of the dementia will send a mental health provider along with the police officers.

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I am feeling particularly sad today and I feel for you all.

We just spent a week visiting our son and his family. The visit provided joy, a wonderful distraction and much needed morale support.

I’m dreading going home and having to face these challenges alone. I don’t like burdening family and friends and still don’t feel the need for bringing in outside help.

I will continue to plan activities for us each day to help the days more enjoyable.

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Loneliness is the norm for caregivers but I'm lucky in that I have 5 year old puppy that enjoys our conversations and walks. I'm also lucky in that my son will sometimes take me out for a cup of coffee and conversation. I go to the gym but not for conversation, just to exercise and that lifts my spirits. Hope this helps and welcome to a great site.

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@georgescraftjr

Oh dear. Sorry for all my typos.

P.S. ...and sorry for always using the word "typos" loosely--to include spelling errors, which I know are different from typos.

George's Wife (AKA @typoqueen)

P.S. I was being over-inclusive in echoing Karla. To clarify, I just wanted to thank her for the reminder of the "Lord's presence in all we do." That knowledge is empowering, and it lightens our burdens.

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@georgescraftjr You guys are all so great. Sometimes one person says something that another may have already said, yet in a different way. So, thanks to all of us for caring, sharing, and just being supportive to one another. Sometimes posting makes us so vulnerable. But it's that vulnerability that makes us so valuable to one another. Keep posting. Karla

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@georgescraftjr I am so sorry that you had to deal with the police because of George's son's advice to him. I am wondering if contacting the community outreach person at the police department, not the front desk or dispatcher, would be able to allow you to inform the police that your husband has dementia and to keep this in mind when responding to any future calls.
I would ask if they have any policies regarding interacting with dementia patients. They may have to respond to anyone that calls about feeling unsafe because sadly there are cases of abuse of elderly people. But maybe being informed ahead of time would change the tone of the interaction. Just throwing that out there because I think that this is a growing concern for dementia caregivers and perhaps the local police department has not addressed this with a specific policy. I do know that some 911 dispatchers if they are aware of the dementia will send a mental health provider along with the police officers.

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@ocdogmom

Thanks, Michelle.

P.S. The local police department are familiar with us by now. We live in a small town, and George insisted that I call "911" on other occasions. On each of those occasions, he was convinced that he was dying--and he has that fear all the time. I try to tell him not to be afraid of dying because he has lived a full life. (Trying to continue to live a full life is unrealistic at this point, for both the caregiver and loved one--unless one redefines the meaning of living a full life. If one accepts that living fully means living purposefully, then we caregivers can still live a "full" life even though our days of traveling; going to the opera, a play and the symphony; or just going to a cafe for a cup of coffee, etc, are over. There are few challenges greater than being a dementia caregiver.)

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@kjc48

Thanks for your concern.

After the visit from the cops, I asked George's son why he thought law-enforcment intervention was necessary, and the son said that his father was extremely anxious. (George told him that I was threatening to "strip.") I also asked his son why he didn't call me first, or at least, have the decency to warn me that the cops were on there way. His response was: "Because it was an emergency."

P.S. The next day, George cried and apologized for calling "911" but he couldn't remember what caused his anxiety other than to say that he was having hallucinations. (I was home in another room at the time, and I didn't "threaten" to strip. LOL)

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@georgescraftjr Excuse my ignorance but when you say, "threaten to strip" was he referring to taking yours and his clothes off. I think that's what strip means....I just can't believe the son wouldn't talk with you. It makes me sad that he would do that knowing what you are up against and the condition his father is in. I know you mentioned you gave George a little gel pill the other day. I think I read that in an earlier thread. Perhaps, that's what the doctor has ordered for calmer days, and therefore, less crazy conversations with his son (and calmer for you on the homefront). It's hard to know what to say or do here, because as you say, you were home in another room and he was having hallucinations. Sending good vibes and a better week coming up. Karla

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I haven't experienced the physical loneliness as much as I have the loneliness (and fear) that comes with making all the decisions that we once made together. There's just no one to turn to, and everyday fills like this "push pull" of what's next on the list to decide on. Maybe it's my own personal situation on top of the MCI diagnosis last year with my husband, of a move out of our house due to mold, in limbo for 3 months in a hotel, a rental home that also had mold and moveout with a financial loss, another rental (that has yes, turned out great and I"m still in), and living out of storage for 7 months now while we're remodeling with that whole set of issues. Then planning to sell and finding someplace else to go all in the middle of all these lequembe infusions, MRI's, Pet scans, support groups, and just the normal everyday issues that come from insurance company changes, technology issues, medical portals, 1800 numbers that have all gone to AI, where just trying to get a "person" to next to impossible. So, on the brighter side, I'm sorry I'm ranting this morning - Thanks for listening......Ah, another day of decisionmaking and caregiving.......But the sun just came out! Best, Karla

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@kjc48 Yes, there is loneliness. I am thankful for the present, when we are together, even though, she is somewhat distant. I think that she too, is lonely and scared, and it breaks my heart, when I take a few steps in her shoes. We play Super Scrabble, she is still a very good wordsmith. This has been a journey of almost ten years, as it was apparent to me that she was having cognitive issues, quite a while ago. It's one day at a time.

Tom

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@timber2026 I wanted to also add in my earlier Karla - to - Karla note, when my husband started to get angry and flair up - I told him that I was going to bash his head in, if he continued to talk to me like that. That I loved him, and wanted him calm, and not angry, as when he's angry, he hurtful and he hurts me with his words. I don't know if it was the "bashing" part or the I love you and when you are angry, you hurt me part. It's hard to know what they know, or remember, but I do remember, it did resonate with my husband. He settled down a bit. I suppose it depends what stage they are in. Best, Karla

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@kjc48
At my wit's end yesterday I told my husband when he behaves like he was that I just want to hit him, but quickly added, but I won't hit you.
When that didn't work my frustration reared up and I started to cry, then he settled for a few minutes and actually apologized which was a shocker.
I will try most anything to try and change his behavior when he gets in a loop, and usually my efforts are fruitless, despite all the educational dementia caregiver classes I take that give excellent tips.
It is a lonely road we are on.
Hugs all around, group! 🫂

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