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Yearning to be Addiction-Free ASAP but ask for helpful Ideas Thx!

Posted by @stressedmesseddepressed, Fri, Mar 2 2:17pm

Hi, I’m on disability for major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder, take 60 mg Duloxetine (Cymbalta) and 4 mg daily of Clonazepam. I know that if you attempt to cold turkey off any benodiazepam like Clonazepam, you can have seizures and even die! I declare March 2018 as “My Personal Freedom Month” of all my addictions – Clonazepam, Sugar (severely addicted!), Weed, internet porn, and caffeine. I don’t have the money right now to buy weed much and I have to taper off it but weed is/was the only thing that relaxes me as I am habituated to the 4 mg clonazepam so it provides no anxiety relief. I know that I have to “step up” (pun intended) the physical exercise and social activity, among other things. Anybody have any suggestions for tapering off (as quickly as is safely possible to avoid withdrawal symptoms) all these addictive substances? I want to be free of all addictions and save money simultaneously. I’ve researched you can taper off (and will work with my Psychiatrist) 4 mg clonazepam about 1/2 mg every two weeks until you get down to 1 mg daily, then you need to taper off more slowly, .25 mg every 2 weeks until you’re off, about over 5 months if you’re starting to wean off at 4 mg. Any suggestions for getting off weed and the other addictions would be very highly appreciated. I have a law degree and I’m a capable guy but crippled / impaired by all these addictive substances. And weed is too expensive for me right now. Thank you / anyone for help with this. At wit’s end! Thank you!

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I admire your desire to be free. Let me suggest that you find at least one accountability partner and preferably several. One thing I learned as soon as I stopped drinking 12 years ago was that all of my friends were people who had entered or stayed in my life because we were drinking buddies. You need someone who is as excited about you being clean and sober as you are. I am not saying you can not do it w/out one, but it will be much easier with an advocate(s).

Terrific idea – I will do that, find accountability partners. Thanks very very much!

@stressedmesseddepressed

Please remember that when you try to go off the meds that you have mentioned, that you need a doctor's help to taper off in a safe way. Please don't try to do this as a solo activity.

Here is a link to a discussion about addiction, https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/recognize-plan-prevent-addiction-lapses/. This is about how to prevent relapses. I would encourage you to subscribe to the emails from https://www.smartrecovery.org/. This organization also offers online support.

Here is another link to a discussion on recovering from alcoholism. While you don't mention being an alcoholic, some of the same principles are important for recovery from any addiction https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/hi-brit-i-see-that-you-define-yourself-as-an-alcoholic-i/

Please remember, @stressedmesseddepressed, that whenever you "give-up" an unhealthy activity, you must replace it with a healthy activity – it keeps your life balanced and will help you not to fall back into the hole of addiction.

I wish you well. Will you post again and let me know how you are doing? I look forward to hearing from you.

Teresa

@stressedmesseddepressed

Terrific idea – I will do that, find accountability partners. Thanks very very much!

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@stressedmesseddepressed It would obviously be best that it be real people as opposed to virtual, but you will find that kind of support here if you can not find any in your circle of friends and family. You mentioned that you have a law degree; are you still eligible to practice with your state's BAR? There are a tremendous number of people who could use some reasonably priced representation before the disability court, misdemeanors with marijuana possession, separations, etc… that may allow you to work and earn a bit of money in addition to your disability.

Thank you, Teresa, very much!!!

I have major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder, never hospitalized or anything, just loss and trauma and I feel awful and I'm addicted psychologically / physically to 4 mg clonazepam and 60 mg duloxetine and weed (it's the only thing that relaxes me as I'm habituated to the clonazepam. Life feels so hard, addicted, and struggling financially, on Disability. Any suggestions for getting free of weed, how to taper off? Any ideas welcome. TY

Hi @stressedmesseddepressed, I merged the 2 discussions you started about tapering off duloxetine, clonazepam and marijuana into one discussion, bringing everyone together around the topic instead of separated in 2 different places. Thank you for starting this discussion. It is important and I appreciate the support and tips you've been getting from other members. In my opinion ASAP (as soon as possible) and tapering may be in conflict with one another. Tapering is important and requires patience. I like Gary's suggestion of tapering one drug at a time, and most definitely with the guidance of your health care provider.

Thanks very much for your tips and merging posts, etc. Here's the latest for me (today) re the tapering – I know that to do it the proper way, getting off 4 mg clonazepam (benzos (klonopin, valium, ativan, etc.) are a hell if you taper too quickly or miss doses!!!) Speaking solely for myself, I enjoy weed and the relaxation very much! but I'm – I feel – psychologically addicted to it, it's not in my budget really now, so I plan to get off it way before the clonazepam full taper, like this month. I feel like a slave to weed and clonazepam (and sugar!!). I want anything needed I put in my body – medication, healthy food, supplements, etc. to be my choice and not addicted even though I understand some medications are needed and save lives.

But today, I bought 1 ML of CBD oil and I think it seems to help with mood and anxiety! $7 for 1 ML, about one day's dosage so I plan to buy economical sizes. Tons on the web about CBD oil. I am hopeful that the CBD oil will ease getting off all the other stuff. Anyone with comments about CBD oil (hemp extract) and dosing with the oil, are welcome and appreciated! TY To all of our good health!

@stressedmesseddepressed

I have major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder, never hospitalized or anything, just loss and trauma and I feel awful and I'm addicted psychologically / physically to 4 mg clonazepam and 60 mg duloxetine and weed (it's the only thing that relaxes me as I'm habituated to the clonazepam. Life feels so hard, addicted, and struggling financially, on Disability. Any suggestions for getting free of weed, how to taper off? Any ideas welcome. TY

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gman..Yes, Psychological is probably high on the list. I just never depended on it. But with the pain I have now, I am almost ready to move back to Oregon to get some. I know I can get it in Arizona, but I am afraid I would be arrested on the border of Texas. What a world. Something that can help us is illegal Remember God planted all herbs for our ingestion. Read about it. Marijuana make wonderful tea and everything. I am jealous of all of you who can get it

@stressedmesseddepressed

I have major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder, never hospitalized or anything, just loss and trauma and I feel awful and I'm addicted psychologically / physically to 4 mg clonazepam and 60 mg duloxetine and weed (it's the only thing that relaxes me as I'm habituated to the clonazepam. Life feels so hard, addicted, and struggling financially, on Disability. Any suggestions for getting free of weed, how to taper off? Any ideas welcome. TY

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Well with the help I have gotten with Pain, I am almost ready to tell my doctor to stop everything, including the infusions and shots of Methotrexate. All that does is make me sick There is no cure, so what the heck are they doing this to me for. I feel like letter the drugs go for two weeks and see if I clear up. But, I would have to take Ibprophen for pain. Can't do that now with the other drugs I take. I am beginning to hate the doctors for making us feel so guilty when we ask for help for pain.

@stressedmesseddepressed

I have major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder, never hospitalized or anything, just loss and trauma and I feel awful and I'm addicted psychologically / physically to 4 mg clonazepam and 60 mg duloxetine and weed (it's the only thing that relaxes me as I'm habituated to the clonazepam. Life feels so hard, addicted, and struggling financially, on Disability. Any suggestions for getting free of weed, how to taper off? Any ideas welcome. TY

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All I know Gman, is my pain was GONE. But when it started to wear off, you have to use the oil again. I slept very well in Oregon and drove with no incident. I had a clinic on every corner.

@stressedmesseddepressed

I have major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder, never hospitalized or anything, just loss and trauma and I feel awful and I'm addicted psychologically / physically to 4 mg clonazepam and 60 mg duloxetine and weed (it's the only thing that relaxes me as I'm habituated to the clonazepam. Life feels so hard, addicted, and struggling financially, on Disability. Any suggestions for getting free of weed, how to taper off? Any ideas welcome. TY

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Every State might be different. Doctor from clinic states in writing why you need it. Thats it. Then for the strain you work that out. Maybe different in other states. Oregon was charging 400 or so for license to use and 250 for doctor. Each year the cost of license is due. Taxes are collected on the Marijuana sales. OREGON IS GETTING RICH by the minute. They have NO sales tax so they passed a special law for tax on Marijuana. We did not care My friend had MS and she is only alive because of the use of Marijuana. She was going nuts with the pain. Much like many of us I really mean it when I say this stubborn attitude about offering us pain killers will come back to bite the lawmakers.

@colleenyoung

Hi @stressedmesseddepressed, I merged the 2 discussions you started about tapering off duloxetine, clonazepam and marijuana into one discussion, bringing everyone together around the topic instead of separated in 2 different places. Thank you for starting this discussion. It is important and I appreciate the support and tips you've been getting from other members. In my opinion ASAP (as soon as possible) and tapering may be in conflict with one another. Tapering is important and requires patience. I like Gary's suggestion of tapering one drug at a time, and most definitely with the guidance of your health care provider.

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I take TWO POISON drugs for my RA. My kids hate that I am doing it. My Grand Daughter works at Scripps and she is the one who called it poison. They will give me poison but no pain meds. Anything would be better than the reaction I am getting from the RA drugs

@stressedmesseddepressed

Thanks very much for your tips and merging posts, etc. Here's the latest for me (today) re the tapering – I know that to do it the proper way, getting off 4 mg clonazepam (benzos (klonopin, valium, ativan, etc.) are a hell if you taper too quickly or miss doses!!!) Speaking solely for myself, I enjoy weed and the relaxation very much! but I'm – I feel – psychologically addicted to it, it's not in my budget really now, so I plan to get off it way before the clonazepam full taper, like this month. I feel like a slave to weed and clonazepam (and sugar!!). I want anything needed I put in my body – medication, healthy food, supplements, etc. to be my choice and not addicted even though I understand some medications are needed and save lives.

But today, I bought 1 ML of CBD oil and I think it seems to help with mood and anxiety! $7 for 1 ML, about one day's dosage so I plan to buy economical sizes. Tons on the web about CBD oil. I am hopeful that the CBD oil will ease getting off all the other stuff. Anyone with comments about CBD oil (hemp extract) and dosing with the oil, are welcome and appreciated! TY To all of our good health!

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STRESS. Well the reason I used oil was I cannot smoke without coughing. The oil is in a small vial and you screw that Vial into what looks like a cigarette.

@stressedmesseddepressed

I have major depressive disorder and an anxiety disorder, never hospitalized or anything, just loss and trauma and I feel awful and I'm addicted psychologically / physically to 4 mg clonazepam and 60 mg duloxetine and weed (it's the only thing that relaxes me as I'm habituated to the clonazepam. Life feels so hard, addicted, and struggling financially, on Disability. Any suggestions for getting free of weed, how to taper off? Any ideas welcome. TY

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@oregongirl

I live in Oregon, and I can't possibly afford the annual doctor approval, the annual fee for the state, and then the exorbitant cost of the marijuana. It's a lot cheaper to buy it on the street, which is where we're being driven, in spite of the risks. The way I see it, people who have chronic pain, who can't get the meds they need and that are proven effective, are going to have to find alternative sources, legal or not, wise or not.

Jim

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