Healing osteoporosis without medication

Posted by imatine @imatine, Dec 4, 2020

Hello, did anyone here try to heal from osteoporosis away from all the prescribed medications we all know of? Did you try following a specific diet? Excercise? Meditation, etc. ? Thank you

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Well…..not exactly to heal osteoporosis, but to improve…..yes. I eat yogurt every day, with fruit, low carbs, good protein, take daily Centrum Silver for Women, Super B Complex, D3, Zinc, Citrical or a calcium supplement. AND, I use water therapy 2-3X daily in a pool for conditioning, exercise. That is probably the best suggestion you can try, if your doctor approves. My doc said I have to do that for the rest of my life…I consider that a direct order from someone who knows me and my body and wants my best. So, I do it. I love it. I'm stronger, have less pain, move better. I walk in the water-sideways/backwards/front, do marching, use water barbells. Simple, easy and lots of hard work to feel and be better. It works wonders for me. Wishing you well!

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Thank you @ess77 so much for sharing all of this information. So, you are not on any kind of medication, right? If so, did such improvement appear in your tests and how much time does it take to improve? What percentage?

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@imatine

Thank you @ess77 so much for sharing all of this information. So, you are not on any kind of medication, right? If so, did such improvement appear in your tests and how much time does it take to improve? What percentage?

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@ess77 wishing you well too 😊👍🏼

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In 2004 I was 51 turning 52 at the very end of the year:
Firstly, my numbers
2004 Femoral Neck -2.8
2019 Femoral Neck -.6

I tried Doctor prescribed meds in 2004. I did not feel that I could live with the side effects.
I stopped the meds; I did lots of research and had some more tests run to ck my hormones.

I began a regime of:
Bioidentical Hormones
Strontium Citrate at night
Ez Orb Calcium in the morning; there are generic forms of this now available which are cheaper

Plus:
All the usual suspects of good health were taken or cked…vit d, k, weight bearing and jarring exercise etc
Melatonin a small amount at night to sleep, I mention because a study has shown it to be helpful to encourage the body to grow bone.

I have had no known fractures and no side effects since beginning strontium citrate or this regime.

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Here are the common themes on a variety of sites like NIH, National Osteoporosis Foundation, WebMD, Harvard Health:

It is difficult, but possible to improve bone strength, easier to stop loss.

The best non-drug treatments for slowing/stopping progress of osteoporosis are:
– Good diet with adequate protein (huge issue for older women, who tend to consume too little).
– Adequate levels of Calcium, Magnesiun, Vitamin K, Vitamin D3 & Zinc.
– Weight bearing exercise (walking, power walking, weight-training, stair climbing.) Swimming and biking may be good for cardio, but not as good at promoting bone strength.
– Avoid excess caffeine & alcohol which may promote bone loss (ie more than 4 cups of coffee a day.
– Stop smoking.

Alternative therapies are not scientifically proven to work, or may have side effects and should be discussed with your doctors, these include: red clover, soy, black cohosh, and other herbal supplements.

Finally, in addition to the traditional medications like Fosamax, there are now some biologics available which my be appropriate and less difficult to tolerate.
Sue

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Interestingly, I get good walks in when I go to Mayo Jax for appts. Three of the main builbings are connected by carpeted, very wide, beautiful – artwork on walls, plants, lots of windows-I walk the corridors through these buildings to the end, where I love the Mayo gift shop. Method there….I use a walker and do this unless I am really not able. That rarely happens, since I enjoy this walk to and from, and know what wonderful things it's doing for me. Climate controlled, beautiful, people……Also, beginning to do 'mall walking' with a friend, a day or two weekly. Walk only as far as is comfortable, I can rest if needed and enjoy the shop windows. This is something I'm just able to begin, since building strength with the other helps, vitamin supplements, water therapy…..I know it's not supposed to help much w/osteoporosis, but seems to be helping me. Also, helps most with pain. Hope my comments make sense…..

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@ess77

Interestingly, I get good walks in when I go to Mayo Jax for appts. Three of the main builbings are connected by carpeted, very wide, beautiful – artwork on walls, plants, lots of windows-I walk the corridors through these buildings to the end, where I love the Mayo gift shop. Method there….I use a walker and do this unless I am really not able. That rarely happens, since I enjoy this walk to and from, and know what wonderful things it's doing for me. Climate controlled, beautiful, people……Also, beginning to do 'mall walking' with a friend, a day or two weekly. Walk only as far as is comfortable, I can rest if needed and enjoy the shop windows. This is something I'm just able to begin, since building strength with the other helps, vitamin supplements, water therapy…..I know it's not supposed to help much w/osteoporosis, but seems to be helping me. Also, helps most with pain. Hope my comments make sense…..

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Want to add one thought: The walking is surely helping with all areas. I couldn't walk well or far for several years until I started the water therapy. That strenthened my whole body, inside and out I suppose. My conditioning has now gotten to the point I can do the walking I need, like when I'm at Mayo….walking the connected buildings. It's a real jump forward for me to be 'mall walking'. Guess that is a good indication the combination of all the above….like Sue listed…..works together to help us get stronger and healthier. Now, understand, I will usually have a dip in my condition, from a fall or something that gets me back on the roller-coaster with this health. But, I'm stronger!!! Fewer falls since on Requip! I also have had bloodwork ckg my D3, B's, Magnesium, zinc…and hormones! Thyroid is so important, affects all my systems. I understand it is often lower as we age. Happened to me. Now, just HAVE to stay on top of the numbers. Just some thoughts…Elizabeth

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@kathleen1314

In 2004 I was 51 turning 52 at the very end of the year:
Firstly, my numbers
2004 Femoral Neck -2.8
2019 Femoral Neck -.6

I tried Doctor prescribed meds in 2004. I did not feel that I could live with the side effects.
I stopped the meds; I did lots of research and had some more tests run to ck my hormones.

I began a regime of:
Bioidentical Hormones
Strontium Citrate at night
Ez Orb Calcium in the morning; there are generic forms of this now available which are cheaper

Plus:
All the usual suspects of good health were taken or cked…vit d, k, weight bearing and jarring exercise etc
Melatonin a small amount at night to sleep, I mention because a study has shown it to be helpful to encourage the body to grow bone.

I have had no known fractures and no side effects since beginning strontium citrate or this regime.

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Hi Kathleen, have you had some Fxs in your past? How much melatonin do you take? Sometimes just 3mg. keeps me awake! So strange. Good to know it can help grow bone! Take care, Sunnyflower

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Sorry what are Fxs? Melatonin I start with 3mg and add if I have trouble sleeping. Basically, if I am not sleeping I figure I need it since the body is not prone to make it as much as one ages.

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OH, Fractures…sorry…no …I have had some bad falls, one on an icy trail onto a rock landing on my hip. Plus I guillotined my leg on a wet, mildewed dock step a year or so ago …. I thought that the dock fall might have left a small crack since a painful lump came up that took a few weeks to stop being painful and to go down ….but nothing that was serious enough to go to the doctor

I do have a friend who was fracturing fairly regularly….she thought from her previous osteoporosis drug….she began strontium citrate and the fractures stopped
I have another acquaintance who was fracturing also she believed from her osteoporosis treatment….she began strontium citrate and still had fractures

The research shows that strontium lowers the risk of fracture by about 47% ….so not 100% and not necessarily that high if you have been on osteoporosis drugs which have a side effect of fractures…

Research links and discussion on strontium and fractures
https://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/strontium-does-it-prevent-fractures-research-articles-personal-stories/

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@kathleen1314

OH, Fractures…sorry…no …I have had some bad falls, one on an icy trail onto a rock landing on my hip. Plus I guillotined my leg on a wet, mildewed dock step a year or so ago …. I thought that the dock fall might have left a small crack since a painful lump came up that took a few weeks to stop being painful and to go down ….but nothing that was serious enough to go to the doctor

I do have a friend who was fracturing fairly regularly….she thought from her previous osteoporosis drug….she began strontium citrate and the fractures stopped
I have another acquaintance who was fracturing also she believed from her osteoporosis treatment….she began strontium citrate and still had fractures

The research shows that strontium lowers the risk of fracture by about 47% ….so not 100% and not necessarily that high if you have been on osteoporosis drugs which have a side effect of fractures…

Research links and discussion on strontium and fractures
https://www.inspire.com/groups/national-osteoporosis-foundation/discussion/strontium-does-it-prevent-fractures-research-articles-personal-stories/

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Oh my gracious Kathleen, reading about those falls makes me wince! Eeeouch! Those deep bruises can hurt very much for a very long time! I had so many myself besides my Fxs and have had hematomas that last forever it seems like.

Thx again for the great info. Be careful! Blessings, Sunny

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@kathleen1314

Sorry what are Fxs? Melatonin I start with 3mg and add if I have trouble sleeping. Basically, if I am not sleeping I figure I need it since the body is not prone to make it as much as one ages.

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Sorry Kathleen, Fxs are fractures. S

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@ess77

Well…..not exactly to heal osteoporosis, but to improve…..yes. I eat yogurt every day, with fruit, low carbs, good protein, take daily Centrum Silver for Women, Super B Complex, D3, Zinc, Citrical or a calcium supplement. AND, I use water therapy 2-3X daily in a pool for conditioning, exercise. That is probably the best suggestion you can try, if your doctor approves. My doc said I have to do that for the rest of my life…I consider that a direct order from someone who knows me and my body and wants my best. So, I do it. I love it. I'm stronger, have less pain, move better. I walk in the water-sideways/backwards/front, do marching, use water barbells. Simple, easy and lots of hard work to feel and be better. It works wonders for me. Wishing you well!

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@ess77, I am taking a one yr sabbatical from Reclast and have been struggling with non-prescribed meds to keep my bones as healthy and strong as possible during these interim months. I do most of what you shared but the water therapy would be a greatly welcomed addition to my healthy bones regimen.

I know that weight bearing exercises are encouraged for osteoporosis patients but hadn't considered the water therapy. We have a p.t. facility near my home that offers water therapy. Think I'll give them a call and see if they require a doc's order to be eligible. You may have given me a new challenge to undertake for 2021 and I am eager to pursue this! Thank you!

My personal challenge for 2019 was to see if I could go 12 mos without purchasing a single piece of wearing apparel. Fulfilling that challenge led me to set walking 3 days/week on specific days as my 2020 challenge. So far, so good on that one too! Have been mulling a good challenge for the upcoming year and think your post has pointed me in the best direction!! Yay!

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@fiesty76

@ess77, I am taking a one yr sabbatical from Reclast and have been struggling with non-prescribed meds to keep my bones as healthy and strong as possible during these interim months. I do most of what you shared but the water therapy would be a greatly welcomed addition to my healthy bones regimen.

I know that weight bearing exercises are encouraged for osteoporosis patients but hadn't considered the water therapy. We have a p.t. facility near my home that offers water therapy. Think I'll give them a call and see if they require a doc's order to be eligible. You may have given me a new challenge to undertake for 2021 and I am eager to pursue this! Thank you!

My personal challenge for 2019 was to see if I could go 12 mos without purchasing a single piece of wearing apparel. Fulfilling that challenge led me to set walking 3 days/week on specific days as my 2020 challenge. So far, so good on that one too! Have been mulling a good challenge for the upcoming year and think your post has pointed me in the best direction!! Yay!

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Wonderful!!!! warms my heart to hear your response to my message. You go, girl….I began the therapy pool, 1 hour, 2X weekly, with a script from my neurologist. The pool is at the Y next to Brooks Rehab, so they share the therapy pool. I used it for a year with medicare. Now, the sweet folks at rehab are letting me continue to use it if there's room, not too many therapy patients in the pool. With covid, they have to keep it small. The Y hasn't opened the therapy pool yet for their members, so I can't use it during Y time. The rehab folks realize how important this is to my overall health and improvement….so they are helping me out. Tomorrow is pool day, if there's room. Can't wait!
Hope you enjoy and find it as helpful in as many ways as I. Blessings!

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@imatine I was diagnosed with osteoporosis in September 2019 after a minor fall in July left me with a minimally displaced trochanteric femur fracture. I have been doing all of the right things — getting plenty of calcium and protein, taking vitamin D, K, boron, and magnesium, and plenty of weight-bearing exercise. Before the pandemic I was going to my health club and alternating days of pool jogging with days in the gym working on strength equipment. I had been doing that for quite a while before my diagnosis, in fact, my PCP thought with all of the exercise I did that I would not have osteoporosis. He was wrong.

Now that I can no longer go to the gym I do at least an hour of exercise at home using videos. Some are weight-bearing and some are cardio. On days when weather permits I walk outside.

I had a DEXA on December 1st. My numbers are considerably worse than they were. I am on prednisone so that is part of my problem. My transplant team has finally cut my dosage in half so hopefully, that will help to keep it from getting worse.

I had an endo appointment a week ago and have another coming up with a different endo this week. To me, this is such a huge decision I wanted input from two highly regarded doctors. The doctor that I already did see thought my plan, to start on Tymlos to improve my bones for two years would be good. I will see what the doctor I am conferring with this week says. I have not yet decided which doctor I will choose to treat me.

Following those two years I would need to go on something else, the recommendation was Tymlos. I am finding that doctors tend to not recommend Tymlos because it is a daily self-administered injection, and it is expensive. I have figured out the cost for the coming year when checking the Medicare Plan D plans and it would be costly up until April or May ( a bit over $500 a month) for me and then the price would go down (a little over $100 a month). I think if it improves my bone density it will be worth it. By using the Medicare calculator though I save myself about $800 a year on my drugs by switching plans.

Admittedly, I am scared of any of these drugs but I am also scared of a more severe fracture. I don't see that I have many options.
JK

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