Grover's Disease: What works to help find relief?

Posted by 43219876x @43219876x, Sep 23, 2016

I have been diagnosed with Grover's disease under my breasts. I had a biopsy for diagnosis. Tried topical ointment with no really good results. Any ideas?

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@gardeningjunkie

Not all cotton material is equal as you point out. I find organic cotton makes no difference for me personally.
Many cotton fabrics are processed with wrinkle free adhesive chemicals, sizing, spray starch, fire retardant and Scotch Guard. I am allergic to all these additives. Also as grovercleveland mentioned many are allergic to dyes, blue dye is a proven allergen, but China as he explained adds metals and or other elements to some colors. Adding metals is inexpensive and gives a better long lasting color. It's a fact that many painters decades ago ended up with Parkinson's or Alzheimer's because of exposure to lead. Mental imparement happened to children who chewed paint at an early age. That suspected green shirt should be tossed Many chemicals can't be washed out and if mixed with other clothing can contaminate them.
I am not allergic to petroleum, God bless Vaseline, which is pure petroleum and has been my go to when all else failed, but I am allergic to the adhesive additives, as proven in my 5 Day Extended Patch Test.
If the cotton feels soft, wrinkles and needs ironing, that's wonderful for me!

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I defer to your history and well researched expertise - I just knew that sizing is an issue because I went to fashion design school and learned this in my textile classes.

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@babbs

I defer to your history and well researched expertise - I just knew that sizing is an issue because I went to fashion design school and learned this in my textile classes.

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You may have a petroleum allergy so if that's the case be sure to research if it is put into cotton material.

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This topic makes me wonder if clothes designed to provide UVA/UVB protection contain any harmful chemicals. Does anyone know?

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@gardeningjunkie

Absolutely fascinating information groverclevland.

I looked at ingredients in the Good Natured Chorella/Spirulina 50/50 mix I take.
Chlorella Pryenoidosa and Spirulina (Athrospira Platensis) are the only ingredients.
On on the package I see no country of source for the Spirulina but now will check out website and contact the company.

I take supplements like chlorella or fresh or frozen cilantro to detox heavy metals and yet once a month my husband and I go out for a giant bowl of mussels cooked in an amazing wine herb sauce. Mussels have the highest concentration of mercury of all shellfish, so the next day I drink the cilantro for a few days.

So interesting about mercury poisoning instead of GD. If you do have excessive mercury in your blood you may qualify for blood chelation, blood washing filtering of metals done medical professionals. This could give you faster relief from the poisoning. One dermatologist said he didn't think a person could ingest enough cilantro to detox heavy metals. Yet cilantro helped me.

I will not eat out of any products made from China, years ago I cleaned out my cupboards and have replaced with English, Italian, Portuguese or American pottery only. We have known for years they put lead in their paints for vivid colors.

I considered having the two mercury amalgam fillings that I've had for 60 years removed, but from my research learned that removal releases the mercury which is more dangerous than simply living with the filling.

I always wondered why your GD was not as itchy as it was for the rest of us, plus with GD most go into remission for periods of time, which you weren't. I will say my itchiness was equal to the pain.

Were you ever biopsied for GD or simply given a visual diagnosis? My biopsy came back negative, but it was taken at the end of my first year when I started going into remission. So it was not active. I tell this to others because clearly biopsied can't be accepted always based upon the stage of GD you are in.

Your horsefly bites were much like my Allergic Contact Dermatitis sensations I had, even when visual rash was gone I had stinging sensations inside my skin, 24/7 and worse at night. Strong corticosteroid shots would help; many dangers with those. What stopped my internal sensations which were all over my body was giving up processed sugar and starting on chorella which was in my anti-inflammation diet plan. I still have none of these sensations. Also about 4 months after I went off sugar I learned about cilantro from my guardian angle, Kimass1. Maybe some correlation there between processed sugar and cilantro.

I'm glad your are educating yourself, plus practicing, experimenting and sharing what you learn. Most of us who get control over our diseases find the need to do that. It takes discipline, yet pain is a great motivator. We have so may complicating factors, there is no pat answer for doctors.

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I friend of mine had high mercury readings, started to take Cilantro oil and her numbers went down.

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@gardeningjunkie

Not all cotton material is equal as you point out. I find organic cotton makes no difference for me personally.
Many cotton fabrics are processed with wrinkle free adhesive chemicals, sizing, spray starch, fire retardant and Scotch Guard. I am allergic to all these additives. Also as grovercleveland mentioned many are allergic to dyes, blue dye is a proven allergen, but China as he explained adds metals and or other elements to some colors. Adding metals is inexpensive and gives a better long lasting color. It's a fact that many painters decades ago ended up with Parkinson's or Alzheimer's because of exposure to lead. Mental imparement happened to children who chewed paint at an early age. That suspected green shirt should be tossed Many chemicals can't be washed out and if mixed with other clothing can contaminate them.
I am not allergic to petroleum, God bless Vaseline, which is pure petroleum and has been my go to when all else failed, but I am allergic to the adhesive additives, as proven in my 5 Day Extended Patch Test.
If the cotton feels soft, wrinkles and needs ironing, that's wonderful for me!

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The Chlorella aids in the elimination of heavy metals ?

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@nodgabnoj

The Chlorella aids in the elimination of heavy metals ?

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That's a good question, ironically I was taking chlorella to control the yeast in my body, kill it off to lower my inflammation, not aware it helped remove heavy metals. I learned about the power of chlorella from The Yeast Connection Handbook diet I was following. It gave information that the yeast we all having living inside our bodies, residing in our colon, feeding on sugars and carbs and giving off waste which passes through our intestinal linings and into our bloodstream is raising our inflammation. Chlorella is supposed to help control the yeast. Eczema is an inflammatory disease, yet I was trying this diet to stop my internal stinging and zapping which was not visual and not directly connected to the 3 forms of eczema I had, maybe this internal form of itching and stinging is a form of eczema of which I had never been given a name. I just recently learned chlorella also helps detox our bodies of heavy metals. As I have mentioned hundreds of times, I am a disciple of the Yeast Connection Handbook because it worked and is still working for me, now that detox is over the maintenance plan is easy and yes I do eat more carbs than recommended and am still fine. I simply don't do processed sugar. No anti-yeast meds at all. No more internal misery.

I had been taking in chlorella for about 4 months and following my diet before I started the cilantro detox of heavy metals which I learned about on this site in Feb 2019.

I just read on the internet that taking cilantro and chlorella together, 3 times a day for 3 months will remove:
87% of lead
91% of mercury
74% of aluminum.
Of course this is not the pattern any of us used, also I see no mention of fresh versus frozen or tablets. In my case I went overboard and did the fresh or frozen cilantro smoothies for 6 months fearing to stop them and reverting back to active GD. Also I take the chlorella tablets.

I have been tested and have a moderate aluminum allergy and we all have heard of the damage from heavy metals regarding Alzheimer's and heavy metals, we know brain damage occurs from lead that's why it has been removed from paints. Yet with the abundance of information on the internet about the connection to metals and diseases I don't understand why we are not educated more on this connection.

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@mlenney167

This topic makes me wonder if clothes designed to provide UVA/UVB protection contain any harmful chemicals. Does anyone know?

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You should research the product you are buying. Contact the company. Checkout what the chemicals are added, there is no industry standard for which chemicals are added, it's up to the company. You can look up the chemical added on the internet for allergic or toxic reactions. Personally I have too many allergies to consider UVA/UVB clothing, not only to chemicals but to the fibers in those stretchy sun cover coverups. If I wear a cover up it's a tight weave cotton. Yes if it gets wet it's heavy, but it's also cooling when wet. Glamourous it is not.

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@mlenney167

This topic makes me wonder if clothes designed to provide UVA/UVB protection contain any harmful chemicals. Does anyone know?

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I have to wear this kind of shirt if I am going to be outside for any length of time, so this question of yours interested me too. I did just a brief online search and didn't find much except this:
"Sometimes, companies add chemicals called “colorless dyes” to the fabric to increase its UV protection."
So, I guess you try to determine if the clothing has "colorless dyes" added to it.

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@gardeningjunkie

That's a good question, ironically I was taking chlorella to control the yeast in my body, kill it off to lower my inflammation, not aware it helped remove heavy metals. I learned about the power of chlorella from The Yeast Connection Handbook diet I was following. It gave information that the yeast we all having living inside our bodies, residing in our colon, feeding on sugars and carbs and giving off waste which passes through our intestinal linings and into our bloodstream is raising our inflammation. Chlorella is supposed to help control the yeast. Eczema is an inflammatory disease, yet I was trying this diet to stop my internal stinging and zapping which was not visual and not directly connected to the 3 forms of eczema I had, maybe this internal form of itching and stinging is a form of eczema of which I had never been given a name. I just recently learned chlorella also helps detox our bodies of heavy metals. As I have mentioned hundreds of times, I am a disciple of the Yeast Connection Handbook because it worked and is still working for me, now that detox is over the maintenance plan is easy and yes I do eat more carbs than recommended and am still fine. I simply don't do processed sugar. No anti-yeast meds at all. No more internal misery.

I had been taking in chlorella for about 4 months and following my diet before I started the cilantro detox of heavy metals which I learned about on this site in Feb 2019.

I just read on the internet that taking cilantro and chlorella together, 3 times a day for 3 months will remove:
87% of lead
91% of mercury
74% of aluminum.
Of course this is not the pattern any of us used, also I see no mention of fresh versus frozen or tablets. In my case I went overboard and did the fresh or frozen cilantro smoothies for 6 months fearing to stop them and reverting back to active GD. Also I take the chlorella tablets.

I have been tested and have a moderate aluminum allergy and we all have heard of the damage from heavy metals regarding Alzheimer's and heavy metals, we know brain damage occurs from lead that's why it has been removed from paints. Yet with the abundance of information on the internet about the connection to metals and diseases I don't understand why we are not educated more on this connection.

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Here is a long article on both Chlorella and Spirulina I just found. The main cautionary takeaways from it appear to be that consumers need to be sure these products are tested for purity by a reliable independent company, that there are many claims made for these products, but these claims have never been verified in any credible scientific study, they may produce side effects in some people, and it may be best to take these substances for only a limited length of time. On the other hand, they are great sources of certain nutrients. I'm not sure what to make of all this, but I'm going to continue taking Chlorella for now, but as @gardeningjunkie mentioned, Chlorella pills can be HUGE as is the case with the one I am taking now, so I need to find another brand.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/494368-the-harmful-effects-of-chlorella-spirulina/

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@locutus

Here is a long article on both Chlorella and Spirulina I just found. The main cautionary takeaways from it appear to be that consumers need to be sure these products are tested for purity by a reliable independent company, that there are many claims made for these products, but these claims have never been verified in any credible scientific study, they may produce side effects in some people, and it may be best to take these substances for only a limited length of time. On the other hand, they are great sources of certain nutrients. I'm not sure what to make of all this, but I'm going to continue taking Chlorella for now, but as @gardeningjunkie mentioned, Chlorella pills can be HUGE as is the case with the one I am taking now, so I need to find another brand.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/494368-the-harmful-effects-of-chlorella-spirulina/

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Try the Good Natured 50/50 Chorella/ Spirulina. Yet counting out 10 is a nuisance, what I do when I set up my weekly pill containers is simply estimate what 10 look like in my hand and sometimes I get a few more or a few less.

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