Heart Rhythm Conditions – Welcome to the group

Welcome to the Heart Rhythm Conditions group on Mayo Clinic Connect.
Did you know that the average heart beats 100,000 times a day? Millions of people live with heart rhythm problems (heart arrhythmias) which occur when the electrical impulses that coordinate heartbeats don't work properly. Let's connect with each other; we can share stories and learn about coping with the challenges, and living well with abnormal heart rhythms. I invite you to follow the group. Simply click the +FOLLOW icon on the group landing page.

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@rkincaid

My daughter who is 11 has been having fast heart rates for over 2 yrs now. They pound so hard you could see it. The first and only time a doctor saw it was a field day and it was going so fast she couldn’t get it. She sent us to get an ekg and a referred us to a ped cardiologist. The ekg said Long qt. The cardiologist said just a glitch no way she had that. Now over 2 years later 3 different cardiologist, multiple heart monitors which showed beats over 200, tachycardia, sinus rhythm, and on a beta blocker for over a year we still have NO diagnosis. She repeated a stress test Good Friday in which the doctor said SVT. But all 3 cardiologists all say no. She even had one of those doctors tell us it was normal to have fast heart rates and nothing was wrong with her. Really? Never heard of that being normal. She was tested for Lyme 2 years ago after having a tick on her stomach after visiting an animal shelter. She’s been misdiagnosed with pheochomocytoma and a benign tumor on her brain. Why is it 3 doctors in 2 different states can’t figure this out. She has no energy but wants to play sports. She’s also afraid her heart will start pounding again and will have to quit. Somebody please help us figure this out. Getting her retested for Lyme this week. Any and all suggestions are welcomed.

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Hello @rkincaid -- Have you looked into genetic testing? It's how my daughters Long QT Syndrome was diagnosed. She was diagnosed and treated at Mayo Clinic.

Mayo Clinic Led Study on Long QT Syndrome Sheds Light on Genetic Testing
-- https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-led-study-on-long-qt-syndrome-sheds-light-on-genetic-testing/
-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yUqzGumxzo (YouTube video)

NIH - Genetic testing for long QT syndrome and the category of cardiac ion channelopathies
-- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3392134/

GeneDX - Tests Available:
-- https://www.genedx.com/test-catalog/disorders/long-qt-syndrome-lqts/

Hope you find some answers soon.

John

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I am a 48 yr old female with Type I Diabetes and Addisons. I have Autonomic neuropathy which causes mild tachycardia and I am unable to tollerate steriods for the Addisons due to the Diabetes. Although I show no signs of cardiac desease, I have had 3 episodes of Vfib due to severe potassuim depletion from the Addisons. The Vfib episodes were quickly converted with no permanent damage but my ortho has started me on Tizanadine due to collapsed vertabrae and I am on a Fentanyl patch for pain mgmt. I have no history of inherited Long QT Symdrome but I am concerned about the combination of the above meds/conditions. How can I “watch” for signs of impending arythmias? Is this a ligitimate probability or just one of many “possibilities” out there? I have allergies from time to time and usually just take some sort of OTC antihistamine but I’m terrified to take so much as a Tylonol until I know I am not going to stop my heart again. How can I mitigate the risk, if there is one?

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A quick medical profile:
I'm a 64 year old male
6'1" 210 lbs
Walk 4-7 miles a day
I take magnesium supplements
I drink 1 cup of coffee per day
I avoid sugar
I eat no red meat
Yet, I've had 2 heart attacks and have had 3 stents placed
Test data says the plumbing in my heart is great, but…

I experience as many as 34,000 pvc waves per day, 72% are classified as bigeminy, some trigeminy.
– To date they're benign; not increasing with exertion
– Symptomatically, I can become light headed, dizzy and sometimes short of breath
– I can be out of breath after feeding the dog, but be fine 20 minutes later doing a 3 mile walk.
– I had an attempted ablation, but the origin of the PVCs was not accessible.

I've subsequently been diagnosed with severe central sleep apnea… my breathing stops on average of once every 60 seconds (severe apnea is considered more that 20 times a hour.)

Additionally, my brain has become desensitized to the constant stopping of breaths and surges of adrenaline resulting in Cheyne-Stokes breathing.

Both of these are likely drivers of my PVC's.

I'm now on a type of CPAP; an Adaptive Servo-Ventilation (ASV) sleep machine that has eliminated the occurrence of apnea events and seemingly reduced the PVC load. By how much is hard to say until I wear a monitor again, but interruptive symptoms are down to about one hour a day.

I'm here because I want to make sure I'm not missing anything in my control that I can do to avoid a lifetime of medication without compromising my health.
Are you aware of any holistic approaches to mitigate or eliminate pvc waves or interventions not requiring meds?

Thank You!

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@menotpvcs

A quick medical profile:
I'm a 64 year old male
6'1" 210 lbs
Walk 4-7 miles a day
I take magnesium supplements
I drink 1 cup of coffee per day
I avoid sugar
I eat no red meat
Yet, I've had 2 heart attacks and have had 3 stents placed
Test data says the plumbing in my heart is great, but…

I experience as many as 34,000 pvc waves per day, 72% are classified as bigeminy, some trigeminy.
– To date they're benign; not increasing with exertion
– Symptomatically, I can become light headed, dizzy and sometimes short of breath
– I can be out of breath after feeding the dog, but be fine 20 minutes later doing a 3 mile walk.
– I had an attempted ablation, but the origin of the PVCs was not accessible.

I've subsequently been diagnosed with severe central sleep apnea… my breathing stops on average of once every 60 seconds (severe apnea is considered more that 20 times a hour.)

Additionally, my brain has become desensitized to the constant stopping of breaths and surges of adrenaline resulting in Cheyne-Stokes breathing.

Both of these are likely drivers of my PVC's.

I'm now on a type of CPAP; an Adaptive Servo-Ventilation (ASV) sleep machine that has eliminated the occurrence of apnea events and seemingly reduced the PVC load. By how much is hard to say until I wear a monitor again, but interruptive symptoms are down to about one hour a day.

I'm here because I want to make sure I'm not missing anything in my control that I can do to avoid a lifetime of medication without compromising my health.
Are you aware of any holistic approaches to mitigate or eliminate pvc waves or interventions not requiring meds?

Thank You!

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I'm in no way an expert and my symptoms are 1/8 of what you are experiencing, thus my "story" may not help. However, I too was diagnosed with PVC's (about 9,000). On top of that, I had serious sinus problems & finally had sinus surgery which cured much of my sleep problems. Sounds odd, but you might check into that because after my sinus surgery, MANY of my previous health issues vanished (I had major sinus issues; bacterial/fungal infection/polups, etc.).

Back to the heart issue. I am 44 yr old, 180 lb. and "used" to exercise a lot, but haven't done much at all in the past 15 yr. I don't smoke, drink a few beers now/then and 4 cups of coffee/d. I am overly cautious about any meds, so much that it took me many discussions with my Heart doc, a few more with a cousin who is a "brain" at Duke (heart doc) to finally try metotoprolol after diagnosed with PVC's. The 1st night of taking 25 mg pill (this is after my sinus surgery), I slept better than I have in 20 years. It was life-changing. However, you want to make sure that your blood pressure doesn't drop too low; mine never did (min. of 110/60 or so). I am not taking toporol sporadically and only 1/2 pill at a time. Was told that I could take it like tylenol; just when needed vs. every day.

Hope something in my story helps you out. I've been extremely lucky over the past 3 yr "side-stepping" malignant melanoma, getting my sinuses cleaned out, and no issues with PVCs other than discomfort at times. Travis.

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@menotpvcs

A quick medical profile:
I'm a 64 year old male
6'1" 210 lbs
Walk 4-7 miles a day
I take magnesium supplements
I drink 1 cup of coffee per day
I avoid sugar
I eat no red meat
Yet, I've had 2 heart attacks and have had 3 stents placed
Test data says the plumbing in my heart is great, but…

I experience as many as 34,000 pvc waves per day, 72% are classified as bigeminy, some trigeminy.
– To date they're benign; not increasing with exertion
– Symptomatically, I can become light headed, dizzy and sometimes short of breath
– I can be out of breath after feeding the dog, but be fine 20 minutes later doing a 3 mile walk.
– I had an attempted ablation, but the origin of the PVCs was not accessible.

I've subsequently been diagnosed with severe central sleep apnea… my breathing stops on average of once every 60 seconds (severe apnea is considered more that 20 times a hour.)

Additionally, my brain has become desensitized to the constant stopping of breaths and surges of adrenaline resulting in Cheyne-Stokes breathing.

Both of these are likely drivers of my PVC's.

I'm now on a type of CPAP; an Adaptive Servo-Ventilation (ASV) sleep machine that has eliminated the occurrence of apnea events and seemingly reduced the PVC load. By how much is hard to say until I wear a monitor again, but interruptive symptoms are down to about one hour a day.

I'm here because I want to make sure I'm not missing anything in my control that I can do to avoid a lifetime of medication without compromising my health.
Are you aware of any holistic approaches to mitigate or eliminate pvc waves or interventions not requiring meds?

Thank You!

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Buc7777,
Over what period of time did you experience 9000 PVCs? 24 hours? or 72 hours?

PVCs are the most dangerous as the amount of blood that builds up following a PVC is far more than a regular beast and is what causes thickening of the left ventricle wall as the heart has to work much harder to push the extra volume out to the rest of the body. This thickening is whaat actually causes heart failure in many of us.

Glad you are doing far better.

Elena

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@menotpvcs

A quick medical profile:
I'm a 64 year old male
6'1" 210 lbs
Walk 4-7 miles a day
I take magnesium supplements
I drink 1 cup of coffee per day
I avoid sugar
I eat no red meat
Yet, I've had 2 heart attacks and have had 3 stents placed
Test data says the plumbing in my heart is great, but…

I experience as many as 34,000 pvc waves per day, 72% are classified as bigeminy, some trigeminy.
– To date they're benign; not increasing with exertion
– Symptomatically, I can become light headed, dizzy and sometimes short of breath
– I can be out of breath after feeding the dog, but be fine 20 minutes later doing a 3 mile walk.
– I had an attempted ablation, but the origin of the PVCs was not accessible.

I've subsequently been diagnosed with severe central sleep apnea… my breathing stops on average of once every 60 seconds (severe apnea is considered more that 20 times a hour.)

Additionally, my brain has become desensitized to the constant stopping of breaths and surges of adrenaline resulting in Cheyne-Stokes breathing.

Both of these are likely drivers of my PVC's.

I'm now on a type of CPAP; an Adaptive Servo-Ventilation (ASV) sleep machine that has eliminated the occurrence of apnea events and seemingly reduced the PVC load. By how much is hard to say until I wear a monitor again, but interruptive symptoms are down to about one hour a day.

I'm here because I want to make sure I'm not missing anything in my control that I can do to avoid a lifetime of medication without compromising my health.
Are you aware of any holistic approaches to mitigate or eliminate pvc waves or interventions not requiring meds?

Thank You!

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I am wondering if you have heard of Hawthorne? It is used world-wide for heart problems. Now onto another thing...Have you heard of ATP? What it stands for I don't know, but I do know that the building blocks for ATP are D-Ribos, Carnatine and CoQ10. My Cardiologist told me to take them to help my heart. D-Ribose is a 5 sided sugar that is necessary for optimum heaart function and will not raise your glucose levels.

Elena

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My names is Jill, My 43 daughter was diagnosed with dilated cardiomyopathy she got from the flu! I would love to hear from other people who have this.

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Hi there .My name is Allen.
Iv recently been diagnosed with left branch bundle blockage. I went in to have steps completed for hip replacement
and after EKG a echocardiogram were ordered and this was the findings. I don't have any symptoms that are noticeable
but my surgery was postponed and am now on drug therapy for it. I'm 60 and still working with about 5 yrs. before my projected retirement
What is my options to get my surgery at a faster pace then the Kaiser cardiology dept. is taking. I'm getting very disappointed in the time
Its taking and my hip dysfunction is interfering with my job duties. Any suggestions? Thanks Allen

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@sanibelsandy

I am a 70 year old female with paroxysmal atrial fibrillation/flutter.I do not have any significant coronary artery disease (I was told by one cardiologist that the echo showed my arteries were "squeaky clean" 🙂 ) I am in regular sinus rhythm most of the time but have episodes of arrhythmia. I may go days, weeks or months without an episode, but when I do have an episode I am very symptomatic with severe chest pain, some shortness of breath, and a very irregular heartrate. I have been told that I have a rapid ventricular response with the episodes, meaning the ventricles also beat rapidly. My understanding is that as a result the ventricles don't have time to fill completely between beats and that can lead to sudden heart failure. I have had two cardiac ablations. The first ablation was unsuccessful. I did well after the second ablation for about 5 years, but the episodes have reappeared and I was recently told by my electrophysiologist that I need to have a third ablation. My arrhythmia has never responded well to medications i.e. none of the antiarrhythmics have really prevented the episodes. With the episodes the chest pain becomes so severe I have to go to the emergency room. Usually I am given a bolus dose of diltiazem followed by a diltiazem drip and that necessitates a 1-2 day hospital stay. I know there are many people who have a-fib and aren't even aware they have it because they have no symptoms or they only have occasional palpitations. My a-fib seems to be a "horse of a different color," and the experience has been very frustrating and disheartening. But at 70, I am grateful for the care I have received that has helped me cope with my condition. (I understand there is a genetic component to a-fib. I am pretty sure my father had it; I know he had episodes of chest pain and a rapid heart rate. He died at age 61, and I often wonder how much longer he might have had if he had the care I have received.) At any rate, I was just curious if there are others on the site that have symptomatic a-fib/flutter and what their experience has been. (Haven't read all the posts, so maybe I will find others who have had similar "journeys.")

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My experience has been the same as yours but have had only one ablation. Ditto the hospital stays. In some ways I think the symptoms are a good thing as they alert me to the problem.

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