Loss and Grief: How are you doing?

Posted by Teresa, Volunteer Mentor @hopeful33250, Jan 16, 2018

When my dad passed away several years ago I lost my keys 4 times in one month, I would wake up at 3 a.m. several days every week feeling startled. Sound familiar? These are reactions to grief. Grief is a very personal experience - everyone grieves differently – even in the same family because the relationship of a father is different than that of a wife or a granddaughter. Unfortunately, often we grieve alone. Sometimes we don’t want to “bother others” with our grief, and sometimes friends and family tell us that we should be over it by now. After all the person we lost was ill for a long time or was very old and “it was their time” or “they are in a better place now.” Sound familiar?

Grieving is often described as the "work of grief." It does feel like hard work doesn’t it? Grief can be difficult because of the many factors related to the loss. If the loss followed a prolonged, serious illness you undoubtedly did some “anticipatory grief work” prior to the actual death of the loved one. If the loss, however, was sudden, i.e., accident related, suicide, a result of crime, etc. the sense of grief is coupled with shock.

The relationship that you had with the loved one also affects your grief experience, i.e. was your relationship close or had it been strained? Do you feel guilt that you were not closer or do you feel guilty because you don’t feel you did enough to help while your loved one was ill?

Sometimes anger plays a part in the grief process. Did your loved one get poor medical treatment or a wrong and/or late diagnosis? Did your loved one not follow your doctor’s orders with regard to their health (diet, smoking, attention to meds or exercise)? All of these factors contribute to your experience of grief.

Also, some losses are not so evident to others. These would include a miscarriage or a stillborn. Sometimes these losses are not considered as relevant to others as the loss of a person who has lived a longer life. In the case of a miscarriage, others might not even be aware of your loss.

You may think of that person on anniversary dates (their birthday, date of their death) or you might think of them constantly. Unfortunately, sometime people say things that can multiply grief. Have you ever heard someone say, “you should be over this by now?” or “I had a similar experience and I’m OK.” Well, most likely their similar experience was not the same as yours. Thinking you should be over it might compound your grief with feelings of guilt or frustration.

Whether a recent loss, or a loss you experienced a long time ago, let’s talk about it. Whatever your experience, I'd like to hear your stories and together find a way to relocate that loved one so that we can experience peace in our lifetime.

Together let us support each other in our grief journey.

Teresa

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Loss & Grief Support Group.

@shortshot80

Shortshot Nancy) Hello Teresa, sorry I haven't been here in a while, have been busy with attorney's and getting my will updated so everything is legal. I answered the letter that my daughter in law wrote, her letter and my response's' in the same letter. I also have been trying to just take care of me! I need time, rest, cry still, am lonely also, but I know it just takes time, which I have trouble with. I have really never given "me" time for anything. Now I have time but it's not the same, I guess. Just don't know what to do some days. Also my #2 son Randy was able to get medicine for his wife on August 3, and put her in the back seat and drove to her folks place over 500 miles so she could be near her mom. The doctor's told him that they couldn't do anything else for her and she would need to be on hospice. She has lung cancer and brain cancer and was in the hospital. She hasn't been able to eat. The doctors tried to get some agency to transport her to her folks, but it would cost $10,.000.00. So Randy just made the back seat as comfortable as he could and put her there.
I haven't heard anything since he left. I want to call, but I don't want to either. The call what ever would be said would put me back to - too many emotions .Sometimes they are hard to control and I'm tired. My last cat scan on the 25th of July, I found out on the 2nd of August is looking good, no more growth, just a small amount of fluid that has been there for quite a while. I'm on immune therapy which seems to be doing me some good. Not sick, just somewhat tired. I also have been going through old medical files and putting them in a pile to burn.
My friend that has been helping me with my book is still going through his problems that is brain cancer, radiation. He wants to come here to my home to help get the book finished, (I want that too!) I will call him Kevin, he is 51 year old person, ten years younger that my youngest. He has sort of "adopted me as his second mom (his mom has passed.) He was married for 20 years, his wife died of breast caner and has no children. Hey I have another "kid" to help when he can. It is nice to talk with him and I don't mind having another "kid". Have a great day! Nancy

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Hi Teresa, Joy passed away last Monday night. Son Randy took her to her folks home and stayed there with her, till the time came. I don't know if there is a service or not. I just know I'm really very tired. I woke up at 4am this morning . My grandson sot married this morning and they are having a party tomorrow afternoon. Some one will pick me up and drive me to the party, about 60 miles. Not only the grieving part, but some how I've lost my medical cards and medicare card. Don't know where. That is all I need at this time. I'll get better I know, but right now It's really tired out! Thanks for checking on me. I'll get back soon. shortshot nancy)

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@shortshot80

Shortshot Nancy) Hello Teresa, sorry I haven't been here in a while, have been busy with attorney's and getting my will updated so everything is legal. I answered the letter that my daughter in law wrote, her letter and my response's' in the same letter. I also have been trying to just take care of me! I need time, rest, cry still, am lonely also, but I know it just takes time, which I have trouble with. I have really never given "me" time for anything. Now I have time but it's not the same, I guess. Just don't know what to do some days. Also my #2 son Randy was able to get medicine for his wife on August 3, and put her in the back seat and drove to her folks place over 500 miles so she could be near her mom. The doctor's told him that they couldn't do anything else for her and she would need to be on hospice. She has lung cancer and brain cancer and was in the hospital. She hasn't been able to eat. The doctors tried to get some agency to transport her to her folks, but it would cost $10,.000.00. So Randy just made the back seat as comfortable as he could and put her there.
I haven't heard anything since he left. I want to call, but I don't want to either. The call what ever would be said would put me back to - too many emotions .Sometimes they are hard to control and I'm tired. My last cat scan on the 25th of July, I found out on the 2nd of August is looking good, no more growth, just a small amount of fluid that has been there for quite a while. I'm on immune therapy which seems to be doing me some good. Not sick, just somewhat tired. I also have been going through old medical files and putting them in a pile to burn.
My friend that has been helping me with my book is still going through his problems that is brain cancer, radiation. He wants to come here to my home to help get the book finished, (I want that too!) I will call him Kevin, he is 51 year old person, ten years younger that my youngest. He has sort of "adopted me as his second mom (his mom has passed.) He was married for 20 years, his wife died of breast caner and has no children. Hey I have another "kid" to help when he can. It is nice to talk with him and I don't mind having another "kid". Have a great day! Nancy

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Hello @shortshot Nancy,

I am so sorry to hear of Joy's passing. I know that she had been very ill, but it still is difficult to come to grips with, isn't it? I hope that your family will have comfort as they go through another loss.

I feel sure that everything you lost will show up again. There is something about the grief process that causes a lot of confusion.

I will continue to pray for you and your family. Take heart, there are others who care about you.

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Hello, @shortshot - please let me express my sympathies to you on the loss of your your daughter-in-law, Joy. I'm very sorry to hear.

That is a lot going on with her passing and also the wedding of your grandson. A span of emotions, too, I'm sure.

Will you have a chance to rest and have some quiet reflection time after the wedding party?

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@reibur1951

I was asked by Teresa, Volunteer( https://connect.mayoclinic.org/member/95110aa007ad79b253a017a5ebcc51b86505f8b82/ )
to move from https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/melodysplastic-syndrome-unspecified-myelofibroisis-1/?pg=2#comment-116386

We knew it was inevitable that the Blood transfusion were only biding time - that there could eventually be a reaction to them or they would no longer work.:-

I knew something critical was happening with 6 in the last four weeks May 29-June 19 and a count of 6.5, 7.2, 6.4, 6.8 - like i said on the other thread what irked me was his comment of giving 6 units of blood all at once if he wanted them; then the trip to the ER on June 21-22 really topped it off I have no idea how I kept my cool and my thoughts to myself.... Tho its not in same location and under different name my mother worked in that hospital from 1954-1974; and her sister moved up from southern Indiana and started working there from 1968-1974 I was appalled at he being refused transport to I U Medical Center or Methodist given excuses that did not hold water - even after I said we would pay for the transport fees in necessary!

I feel we done our best on Monday June 25th getting him out of the house and down to I.U. Methodist E.R. I transported him myself in my personal vehicle with the heip of the son-in-law and son... we probably done the unconscionable in the son told him he was going if I called him back over as he and the son was physically going to carry him out I told the son-in-law to be back at 11:30 and we were gone... we had talked with son's oncologist research nurse and she had laid the ground work for our arrival at Methodist ER so we would not be refused and she talked to him what she said i am not sure but he called me back and asked about if paper work was ready he was sitting up in bed I faked that as I was not sure what he was talking about he acted like he was goign to start saying something and I just looked at him a told him the decision was his - he had to decide one way or another as his son had given up and was no longer willing to fight his lung cancer and walked out of the room - son-in-law came shortly after i told him what i had done next thing i knew he was frantically waving at me to get back there he had his pants up to knees but son-in-law could not hold him steady enough to get them up rest of way I had bought a rollator after son was diagnosed with lung cancer as I knew a wheel chair would not always be available they rolled out of beddroom inthat down the hall and when got to kitchen door of all things HE WANTED TO WALK DOWN THE THREE STAIRS and probably out to the car but he got lifted down it and rolled to the car in it.... he slept all the way to Indy tho he claims he only had his eyes closed...he made no attempt to talk so I know he did sleep all the way....

We are doing okay except wondering what we will do come winter... this place is a 1975 mobile home with major problems and a "dead horse" there are things in the works but he dragged his feet on proceeding till Feb. it could be as late as Oct. or Nov. before anything solid is known.

I have managed to get the cremation done and paid for... got into a fiasco with graves owned by his mother and him the township trustee claimed still owed money on and would not show son-in-law the books so after basically having a gun held to us and blackmailed I just went elsewhere to buy grave sites for the creamery house monument for him, his wife & 2 sons; the grave sites and the foundation is paid for... The grave sites ate up some of the monument money and I paid for the foundation out of my household money (SS) as not to cut into it anymore so will be very short on money this month but what the hell (oops) have been ever since all this started with him in Nov. 2016 and then add the sons trips to Indy since Oct.

We do expect to hear him yell for something.... miss him on the trips to Indy as he really was a real trooper with all going on with him he never refused to go until the last one for the CT-scan on the 25th he told us on Sunday we could go and he would stay home alone - but I canceled out immediately leaving a message on the oncologist research nurse cell phone.

The past two years he never really gave up but he did not want to go places only to the drs office; i did get him out to Walmart if i went but other than that he preferred to stay home.... before that we would go to the Eagles, American Legion and hear the local bands.

Like I said it was inevitable and I knew it... It was his time and he is relieved out of his suffering.... he never complained about health issues maybe he should of more... Its been a rough rough almost 2 years (all started Nov 7 2016) but so far we have managed to survive... I got to survive I promised him I would take care of his son, get him to his cancer treatments.... God will take care of us and provide for us...

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@reibur1951 It sounds as if this has been a difficult time for you, I appreciate your checking in. You have done an admirable job with your friend's last wishes and helping his son.

I do hope that soon you will be able to take a break and relax just a bit. Please feel free to share whenever you can. Sometimes just posting the words can be helpful.

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@reibur1951

I was asked by Teresa, Volunteer( https://connect.mayoclinic.org/member/95110aa007ad79b253a017a5ebcc51b86505f8b82/ )
to move from https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/melodysplastic-syndrome-unspecified-myelofibroisis-1/?pg=2#comment-116386

We knew it was inevitable that the Blood transfusion were only biding time - that there could eventually be a reaction to them or they would no longer work.:-

I knew something critical was happening with 6 in the last four weeks May 29-June 19 and a count of 6.5, 7.2, 6.4, 6.8 - like i said on the other thread what irked me was his comment of giving 6 units of blood all at once if he wanted them; then the trip to the ER on June 21-22 really topped it off I have no idea how I kept my cool and my thoughts to myself.... Tho its not in same location and under different name my mother worked in that hospital from 1954-1974; and her sister moved up from southern Indiana and started working there from 1968-1974 I was appalled at he being refused transport to I U Medical Center or Methodist given excuses that did not hold water - even after I said we would pay for the transport fees in necessary!

I feel we done our best on Monday June 25th getting him out of the house and down to I.U. Methodist E.R. I transported him myself in my personal vehicle with the heip of the son-in-law and son... we probably done the unconscionable in the son told him he was going if I called him back over as he and the son was physically going to carry him out I told the son-in-law to be back at 11:30 and we were gone... we had talked with son's oncologist research nurse and she had laid the ground work for our arrival at Methodist ER so we would not be refused and she talked to him what she said i am not sure but he called me back and asked about if paper work was ready he was sitting up in bed I faked that as I was not sure what he was talking about he acted like he was goign to start saying something and I just looked at him a told him the decision was his - he had to decide one way or another as his son had given up and was no longer willing to fight his lung cancer and walked out of the room - son-in-law came shortly after i told him what i had done next thing i knew he was frantically waving at me to get back there he had his pants up to knees but son-in-law could not hold him steady enough to get them up rest of way I had bought a rollator after son was diagnosed with lung cancer as I knew a wheel chair would not always be available they rolled out of beddroom inthat down the hall and when got to kitchen door of all things HE WANTED TO WALK DOWN THE THREE STAIRS and probably out to the car but he got lifted down it and rolled to the car in it.... he slept all the way to Indy tho he claims he only had his eyes closed...he made no attempt to talk so I know he did sleep all the way....

We are doing okay except wondering what we will do come winter... this place is a 1975 mobile home with major problems and a "dead horse" there are things in the works but he dragged his feet on proceeding till Feb. it could be as late as Oct. or Nov. before anything solid is known.

I have managed to get the cremation done and paid for... got into a fiasco with graves owned by his mother and him the township trustee claimed still owed money on and would not show son-in-law the books so after basically having a gun held to us and blackmailed I just went elsewhere to buy grave sites for the creamery house monument for him, his wife & 2 sons; the grave sites and the foundation is paid for... The grave sites ate up some of the monument money and I paid for the foundation out of my household money (SS) as not to cut into it anymore so will be very short on money this month but what the hell (oops) have been ever since all this started with him in Nov. 2016 and then add the sons trips to Indy since Oct.

We do expect to hear him yell for something.... miss him on the trips to Indy as he really was a real trooper with all going on with him he never refused to go until the last one for the CT-scan on the 25th he told us on Sunday we could go and he would stay home alone - but I canceled out immediately leaving a message on the oncologist research nurse cell phone.

The past two years he never really gave up but he did not want to go places only to the drs office; i did get him out to Walmart if i went but other than that he preferred to stay home.... before that we would go to the Eagles, American Legion and hear the local bands.

Like I said it was inevitable and I knew it... It was his time and he is relieved out of his suffering.... he never complained about health issues maybe he should of more... Its been a rough rough almost 2 years (all started Nov 7 2016) but so far we have managed to survive... I got to survive I promised him I would take care of his son, get him to his cancer treatments.... God will take care of us and provide for us...

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Thank you I am trying to fulfill them - down to the crematory house monument and hoping all the paper work will be settled within a few weeks. That will be the biggest hurdle past as getting out of here before bad weather hits is biggest concern I do not think I can do the wood stove routine this winter 24/7 and it not being warm in here... there is enough holes/cracks to choke a horse... windows are rotting out, floors were the glued sawdust crap and are deiscenigrating or descenigrated and loos plywood thre on top of areas - kitchen was only room got re-done down to the beams 2 years ago and lived over a year with out cabinets and a kitchen sink and all those only bottoms are second had make shift (that's when the friend got diagnosed with not making blood and he came first; other problems too and tore bathroom up in July/Aug of 2017 and its still the same there is a big hole under the bath tub were the glued sawdust flooring has just rotted away of course plans were to have it completed within 2 months but the semi diagnosis of son hit - he had been coughing and I forced an x-ray in late Sept followed by a CT-scan and drs. office called back with saying thoracic surgeon and biopsy and I said IU Medical center since we had such hassle with his fathers hematologist and its the only major hematologist/oncology practice in the area offices in 5 6 cities/towns where hospitals are and I wanted better communication etc. than had IU Medical SImon Cancer Center is the greatest I just wish could of gotten friend (his father) down into the hematology department sooner it was in the process when I drove him down to Methodist ER the one hematologist was planing to do another bone marrow biopsy to do their own assessing but was in process of being scheduled day he died 🙁 Only regret I think the second opinion we had should of been there instead of where it was because it was within "the circled area" of the hematology/oncology group practice. Hind-site again was better then fore-site... Lessons learned the hard way

Been doing just as "free boxes" come around I may end up having to buy packing boxes or either wait till moving starts empty out what I have packed and come back here re-pack but hoping i don't have to do that routine as I want time to go through sort again. I means getting furniture as have bare minimum here since it is a mobile home At least its done and won't be all at last minute... o nly leaving the china closet and closet and some other things for that. And of course there is the every 3 week immunology next trip to Indy is Sept 5th next ct probably in mid late October but look for it to be sooner could be wrong have been having every month maybe a little over...

Just have to have faith in God that he will provide and keep all things going in the right direction.... main thing is a decent place to live and have to provide home care when that time comes if it does....

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@reibur1951

I was asked by Teresa, Volunteer( https://connect.mayoclinic.org/member/95110aa007ad79b253a017a5ebcc51b86505f8b82/ )
to move from https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/melodysplastic-syndrome-unspecified-myelofibroisis-1/?pg=2#comment-116386

We knew it was inevitable that the Blood transfusion were only biding time - that there could eventually be a reaction to them or they would no longer work.:-

I knew something critical was happening with 6 in the last four weeks May 29-June 19 and a count of 6.5, 7.2, 6.4, 6.8 - like i said on the other thread what irked me was his comment of giving 6 units of blood all at once if he wanted them; then the trip to the ER on June 21-22 really topped it off I have no idea how I kept my cool and my thoughts to myself.... Tho its not in same location and under different name my mother worked in that hospital from 1954-1974; and her sister moved up from southern Indiana and started working there from 1968-1974 I was appalled at he being refused transport to I U Medical Center or Methodist given excuses that did not hold water - even after I said we would pay for the transport fees in necessary!

I feel we done our best on Monday June 25th getting him out of the house and down to I.U. Methodist E.R. I transported him myself in my personal vehicle with the heip of the son-in-law and son... we probably done the unconscionable in the son told him he was going if I called him back over as he and the son was physically going to carry him out I told the son-in-law to be back at 11:30 and we were gone... we had talked with son's oncologist research nurse and she had laid the ground work for our arrival at Methodist ER so we would not be refused and she talked to him what she said i am not sure but he called me back and asked about if paper work was ready he was sitting up in bed I faked that as I was not sure what he was talking about he acted like he was goign to start saying something and I just looked at him a told him the decision was his - he had to decide one way or another as his son had given up and was no longer willing to fight his lung cancer and walked out of the room - son-in-law came shortly after i told him what i had done next thing i knew he was frantically waving at me to get back there he had his pants up to knees but son-in-law could not hold him steady enough to get them up rest of way I had bought a rollator after son was diagnosed with lung cancer as I knew a wheel chair would not always be available they rolled out of beddroom inthat down the hall and when got to kitchen door of all things HE WANTED TO WALK DOWN THE THREE STAIRS and probably out to the car but he got lifted down it and rolled to the car in it.... he slept all the way to Indy tho he claims he only had his eyes closed...he made no attempt to talk so I know he did sleep all the way....

We are doing okay except wondering what we will do come winter... this place is a 1975 mobile home with major problems and a "dead horse" there are things in the works but he dragged his feet on proceeding till Feb. it could be as late as Oct. or Nov. before anything solid is known.

I have managed to get the cremation done and paid for... got into a fiasco with graves owned by his mother and him the township trustee claimed still owed money on and would not show son-in-law the books so after basically having a gun held to us and blackmailed I just went elsewhere to buy grave sites for the creamery house monument for him, his wife & 2 sons; the grave sites and the foundation is paid for... The grave sites ate up some of the monument money and I paid for the foundation out of my household money (SS) as not to cut into it anymore so will be very short on money this month but what the hell (oops) have been ever since all this started with him in Nov. 2016 and then add the sons trips to Indy since Oct.

We do expect to hear him yell for something.... miss him on the trips to Indy as he really was a real trooper with all going on with him he never refused to go until the last one for the CT-scan on the 25th he told us on Sunday we could go and he would stay home alone - but I canceled out immediately leaving a message on the oncologist research nurse cell phone.

The past two years he never really gave up but he did not want to go places only to the drs office; i did get him out to Walmart if i went but other than that he preferred to stay home.... before that we would go to the Eagles, American Legion and hear the local bands.

Like I said it was inevitable and I knew it... It was his time and he is relieved out of his suffering.... he never complained about health issues maybe he should of more... Its been a rough rough almost 2 years (all started Nov 7 2016) but so far we have managed to survive... I got to survive I promised him I would take care of his son, get him to his cancer treatments.... God will take care of us and provide for us...

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@reibur1951 I do hope that you are able to secure more a habitable living situation soon. Any thoughts right now as to what might be available? Am I understanding that your friend's son lives with you now?

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Hi there, it’s been several months since my last response. It will soon be a year since my sister passed. I still miss her laugh, wisdom and her love. She was one of a kind. Her sense of humor and her pranks. To many stories to tell. As i go through my grief I find that my coping skills are improving. I’m laughing, living, eating and loving. I’m so thankful that I’ve had my family and good therapists to help me pick through all the jumbled mess in my head and realize that I can get through her loss. Your stories and your comments helped so very much. I appreciate all of you. I know that with time, we will get through this loss. Thanks

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@sunnymygirl

Hi there, it’s been several months since my last response. It will soon be a year since my sister passed. I still miss her laugh, wisdom and her love. She was one of a kind. Her sense of humor and her pranks. To many stories to tell. As i go through my grief I find that my coping skills are improving. I’m laughing, living, eating and loving. I’m so thankful that I’ve had my family and good therapists to help me pick through all the jumbled mess in my head and realize that I can get through her loss. Your stories and your comments helped so very much. I appreciate all of you. I know that with time, we will get through this loss. Thanks

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Hi @sunnymygirl Nice to hear you are managing OK these days! I know 'anniversaries' can be hard times so keep in mind Connect is always here!

Hoping all continues to go as well as it can for you!

Strength, courage, and peace!

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@reibur1951

I was asked by Teresa, Volunteer( https://connect.mayoclinic.org/member/95110aa007ad79b253a017a5ebcc51b86505f8b82/ )
to move from https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/melodysplastic-syndrome-unspecified-myelofibroisis-1/?pg=2#comment-116386

We knew it was inevitable that the Blood transfusion were only biding time - that there could eventually be a reaction to them or they would no longer work.:-

I knew something critical was happening with 6 in the last four weeks May 29-June 19 and a count of 6.5, 7.2, 6.4, 6.8 - like i said on the other thread what irked me was his comment of giving 6 units of blood all at once if he wanted them; then the trip to the ER on June 21-22 really topped it off I have no idea how I kept my cool and my thoughts to myself.... Tho its not in same location and under different name my mother worked in that hospital from 1954-1974; and her sister moved up from southern Indiana and started working there from 1968-1974 I was appalled at he being refused transport to I U Medical Center or Methodist given excuses that did not hold water - even after I said we would pay for the transport fees in necessary!

I feel we done our best on Monday June 25th getting him out of the house and down to I.U. Methodist E.R. I transported him myself in my personal vehicle with the heip of the son-in-law and son... we probably done the unconscionable in the son told him he was going if I called him back over as he and the son was physically going to carry him out I told the son-in-law to be back at 11:30 and we were gone... we had talked with son's oncologist research nurse and she had laid the ground work for our arrival at Methodist ER so we would not be refused and she talked to him what she said i am not sure but he called me back and asked about if paper work was ready he was sitting up in bed I faked that as I was not sure what he was talking about he acted like he was goign to start saying something and I just looked at him a told him the decision was his - he had to decide one way or another as his son had given up and was no longer willing to fight his lung cancer and walked out of the room - son-in-law came shortly after i told him what i had done next thing i knew he was frantically waving at me to get back there he had his pants up to knees but son-in-law could not hold him steady enough to get them up rest of way I had bought a rollator after son was diagnosed with lung cancer as I knew a wheel chair would not always be available they rolled out of beddroom inthat down the hall and when got to kitchen door of all things HE WANTED TO WALK DOWN THE THREE STAIRS and probably out to the car but he got lifted down it and rolled to the car in it.... he slept all the way to Indy tho he claims he only had his eyes closed...he made no attempt to talk so I know he did sleep all the way....

We are doing okay except wondering what we will do come winter... this place is a 1975 mobile home with major problems and a "dead horse" there are things in the works but he dragged his feet on proceeding till Feb. it could be as late as Oct. or Nov. before anything solid is known.

I have managed to get the cremation done and paid for... got into a fiasco with graves owned by his mother and him the township trustee claimed still owed money on and would not show son-in-law the books so after basically having a gun held to us and blackmailed I just went elsewhere to buy grave sites for the creamery house monument for him, his wife & 2 sons; the grave sites and the foundation is paid for... The grave sites ate up some of the monument money and I paid for the foundation out of my household money (SS) as not to cut into it anymore so will be very short on money this month but what the hell (oops) have been ever since all this started with him in Nov. 2016 and then add the sons trips to Indy since Oct.

We do expect to hear him yell for something.... miss him on the trips to Indy as he really was a real trooper with all going on with him he never refused to go until the last one for the CT-scan on the 25th he told us on Sunday we could go and he would stay home alone - but I canceled out immediately leaving a message on the oncologist research nurse cell phone.

The past two years he never really gave up but he did not want to go places only to the drs office; i did get him out to Walmart if i went but other than that he preferred to stay home.... before that we would go to the Eagles, American Legion and hear the local bands.

Like I said it was inevitable and I knew it... It was his time and he is relieved out of his suffering.... he never complained about health issues maybe he should of more... Its been a rough rough almost 2 years (all started Nov 7 2016) but so far we have managed to survive... I got to survive I promised him I would take care of his son, get him to his cancer treatments.... God will take care of us and provide for us...

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Yes there a two up just up the road a few miles... both nice and closer to town, quicker ambulance service if needed, all on or near the main highway #1 is on the corner of 2 major high ways is s one story brick with basement and 5 acres which is wooded for now but also in the near middle of an annexation to the nearby town and further away from here #2 is on the corner of major highway and a country road, is on less than 2 acres, has lots o f windows and has wind generator assisted electric my friend like the later #2; #1 believe it or not is more than #2 plans before he died was to get #2 is was still available when all the paper work came through to transfer properties to my name and then sell one piece that will cover almost all of the wanted of either 2 was plan for all of us to be together this
winter friend & me and his son to lessen households, care, travel etc. The unoccupied piece of farm land already has a pending buyer they would of bought it in June when friend was at IU Methodist - they called the other night and I told them I had the decision just the final paler work making it fully legal was to be filed the buyer has jumped the gun so to speak and having it appraised and getting a loan on board between hem and his brothers they own most of the land around it and have cashed farmed it since the 1970' maybe earlier between them & their father. So all is just how fast the wheels of legal procedures grind now... they at least did not stretch out till October or November as I had envisioned by what has happened it should only be a matter of weeks... One reason been cleaning packing and if the 2 pieces are still available especially #2 I think # will be more beneficial as it would be set up for generator power if not I will have it down so we won't be out of electric etc during power failures which have been famous during the last few years in that area. So far we have been very lucky out here that last few years they only have flickered off and on enough to screw-up all the computerized appliances/Tv/satellite but before we have been out for hours and up to 3 days before REMC got around and being on the end of the line does not help

I check the sign every time I drive by to see if... so far no one has nibbled that I know of so keeping fingers, toes and what ever else crossed both will be available when the paper work lands... I will use same bank/banker as the buyer as they can flip all properties over for the cash & the other 2 properties up as collateral for the unpaid portion as need part of money to finish up friends wishes... the saying is "the best laid plans of mice and men" but can go haywire and spring a leak along the way... i am to much of a black/white person its got to be on paper and there....

Why been boxing up as if all fails I am still out of here so can carry out plans some how... God will take care of it just maybe not way I have planed and I will just have to accept that and draw up another plan when this one fails....

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