Percussion vest

Posted by gj53 @gj53, Oct 10, 2019

Does anyone have any experience with a percussion vest? I could not tolerate an albuterol nebulizer so this is the next step he has recommended. However, the co-payment is pretty hefty and would like to have some feedback before investing in this. I did have a bad cough that is improved, however, am unable to produce any sputum and he said this will loosen the secretions in my chest. Thanks so much.

@alleycatkate

Hi @thumperguy …Love your thought process on the Microbiome Gut/Lung connection. I am also doing what makes good sense to me in order to take charge of my health. I've been fermenting homemade sauerkraut for an 'explosion' of probiotics for my gut (about 3 months now) and have my fingers crossed for a "natural conversion". Hope the same for you!! Kate

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Hey, ACK tell me your fermenting "procedure."

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@alleycatkate

Hi @thumperguy …Love your thought process on the Microbiome Gut/Lung connection. I am also doing what makes good sense to me in order to take charge of my health. I've been fermenting homemade sauerkraut for an 'explosion' of probiotics for my gut (about 3 months now) and have my fingers crossed for a "natural conversion". Hope the same for you!! Kate

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@thumperguy …Hi Don….I just happened upon your post to ACK asking for my recipe for fermenting sauerkraut. Just a mention that if you write @alleycatkate before your post it will direct the post to the person. I also noticed your interest in T. Colin Campbell, etc. The China Study is my bible. haha. So…here is the recipe that takes the Fear out of Fermenting…I like it as it has pictures and even I cannot screw it up!
https://therealfoodrds.com/how-to-make-sauerkraut/
Any other Silver Bullets in your arsenal?
Kate aka ACK

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@gj53

Is the hypertonic saline an over the counter purchase? Would I need a script from the doc for this?
Thanks so much…..

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@gj53 Hello. Yes, you do need a prescription for the vials of saline. Studies show that it not only helps to clean out your lungs, but it can also inhibit bacterial growths.

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THank you! I was worried constant inhalation of saline might make it moist and increase problems. That is good to know.

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@alleycatkate

@thumperguy …Hi Don….I just happened upon your post to ACK asking for my recipe for fermenting sauerkraut. Just a mention that if you write @alleycatkate before your post it will direct the post to the person. I also noticed your interest in T. Colin Campbell, etc. The China Study is my bible. haha. So…here is the recipe that takes the Fear out of Fermenting…I like it as it has pictures and even I cannot screw it up!
https://therealfoodrds.com/how-to-make-sauerkraut/
Any other Silver Bullets in your arsenal?
Kate aka ACK

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At 80 I spend what is likely an inordinate amount of time trying to stay fit and healthy. Believing that walking is to fitness what compost is to a garden, I “Mallwalk” 3 x weekly, do a resistance routine also 3 x weekly. Also generally begin the day with a bit of Iyngar “tinctured” Yoga. Exclusively low-fat, whole-food, plant-based way-of-eating since 2007. Wrote a blog-like piece on plant-based nutrition for several years until I ran out of material to write about.
Thanks for the kraut info. Enuf for now. Don

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@esssbeee

I have the Hill-Rom vest. I strongly suggest you try any vest for at least a month before purchasing one. For me, it was minimally effective and a bother to use. What has really worked as an airway clearance for me is 3% hypertonic saline via nebulizer. It is inexpensive, relatively fast and easy to use. I use it twice a day and it really does a wonderful job of bringing up mucus. Best wishes!

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My doc Rx’d 30 minute “vest” sessions twice daily. Been at it now for over two years. I’m curious about how scrupulously you and others whao use a vest follow a regimen?

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@thumperguy

My doc Rx’d 30 minute “vest” sessions twice daily. Been at it now for over two years. I’m curious about how scrupulously you and others whao use a vest follow a regimen?

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This is a similar program for me, along with nebulizing albuterol and 7% saline solution. I’ve been at it about 7 months. I am pretty conscientious but I get tired of doing it all the time. I try to fill my time with fun things to do to pass the time and this helps. The addition of the vest has been very beneficial for helping to clear mucus as I couldn’t do it without the vest program.

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@migizii

This is a similar program for me, along with nebulizing albuterol and 7% saline solution. I’ve been at it about 7 months. I am pretty conscientious but I get tired of doing it all the time. I try to fill my time with fun things to do to pass the time and this helps. The addition of the vest has been very beneficial for helping to clear mucus as I couldn’t do it without the vest program.

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Migizii it seems to me you're doin' it right and getting results. When I first started using the device I just kinda went at it like, as I'm prone to say, "a Boy Scout," meaning dutifully complying with the prescribed schedule. I guess that has paid off. The single time I decided to not take it with me on 4-day trip I promptly had a bronchitis flare-up. Made a believer of me. Don't know if it was simply coincidence, but I'm loath to risk it by experimenting with another "vacation." Let me ask you, when you mention it clearing mucus does that happen during or soon after the treatment session In my case I do bring up mucus but it is entirely unrelated in time with the treatment session. I've always just assumed that the periodic coughing and spitting episodes wouldn't be as productive absent the use of the vest. The goofy thing is though, that I had coughing and spitting episodes before ever getting the vest. Go figure. Lots of puzzling questions crop up with this ailment.

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@thumperguy Hi there! Welcome to our group. I have read your posts and am wondering if your dr ever did a sputem test to see what exactly is growing in your lungs. Reason I ask is; I went for yrs going on and off Z-packs (azithromycin) and all that did was put off my real diagnosis of bronchiectasis with mac infection.

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@thumperguy

Migizii it seems to me you're doin' it right and getting results. When I first started using the device I just kinda went at it like, as I'm prone to say, "a Boy Scout," meaning dutifully complying with the prescribed schedule. I guess that has paid off. The single time I decided to not take it with me on 4-day trip I promptly had a bronchitis flare-up. Made a believer of me. Don't know if it was simply coincidence, but I'm loath to risk it by experimenting with another "vacation." Let me ask you, when you mention it clearing mucus does that happen during or soon after the treatment session In my case I do bring up mucus but it is entirely unrelated in time with the treatment session. I've always just assumed that the periodic coughing and spitting episodes wouldn't be as productive absent the use of the vest. The goofy thing is though, that I had coughing and spitting episodes before ever getting the vest. Go figure. Lots of puzzling questions crop up with this ailment.

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Hi thumperguy, thanks for the compliment on my compliance but I too take random, very short breaks when I can’t muster motivation😔. I could not bring up any mucus prior to using the vest but had a pretty consistent dry cough. The combination of nebulizing and the vest tend to bring up the mucus for me and then sometimes for a little while afterwards. Periodically, during the day I still have my dry cough and rarely some spitting. That’s how it goes for me anyway. Wishing a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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@windwalker

@thumperguy Hi there! Welcome to our group. I have read your posts and am wondering if your dr ever did a sputem test to see what exactly is growing in your lungs. Reason I ask is; I went for yrs going on and off Z-packs (azithromycin) and all that did was put off my real diagnosis of bronchiectasis with mac infection.

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Teri, thanks for the welcome. Only Mac has sputum confirmation. Bronchiectasis diagnosed on film by radiologist and pulmonologist in tandem.

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@migizii

Hi thumperguy, thanks for the compliment on my compliance but I too take random, very short breaks when I can’t muster motivation😔. I could not bring up any mucus prior to using the vest but had a pretty consistent dry cough. The combination of nebulizing and the vest tend to bring up the mucus for me and then sometimes for a little while afterwards. Periodically, during the day I still have my dry cough and rarely some spitting. That’s how it goes for me anyway. Wishing a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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Migzii your experience compared to mine really drives home a point; that being the wide variation there is among persons regarding how this malady presents. I consider myself lucky when I learn of others’ experience; like I must have a relatively mild case.
Jumping topics, and I hope this isn’t too intrusive, but I’m curious about what in the world is the derivation of “Migzii? 😁

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I don’t have a percussion vest but do use a nebulizer with 3% saline, followed by an aerobics and my husband pats various parts of by rib cage over my lungs after laying in various positions where I’m slightly inverted. Each step is followed by huff coughs and controlled coughing. It takes about an hour every morning (empty stomach). I understand how you can want a break every once in awhile.
I find that I cough up bits of mucus throughout the day now but definitely not only in the morning. Is that other prople’s experience? It means I’m coughing more all day,which is great for clearing my lungs when I’m at home but not so great when I’m out in public.

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@kathyhg

I don’t have a percussion vest but do use a nebulizer with 3% saline, followed by an aerobics and my husband pats various parts of by rib cage over my lungs after laying in various positions where I’m slightly inverted. Each step is followed by huff coughs and controlled coughing. It takes about an hour every morning (empty stomach). I understand how you can want a break every once in awhile.
I find that I cough up bits of mucus throughout the day now but definitely not only in the morning. Is that other prople’s experience? It means I’m coughing more all day,which is great for clearing my lungs when I’m at home but not so great when I’m out in public.

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Well Kathy, you and your husband sure figured out a way to beat the steep cost of percussion vests. Congratulations. My mucous clearing episodes, unlike yours, almost always occur in unannounced "obligatory" episodes of several minutes when I'm essentially out-of-commission for any other activity. Fortunately they seem to occur predominately at bed time. Also fortunately my wife's a night owl so is minimally bothered by the clamor I make.

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@thumperguy

Well Kathy, you and your husband sure figured out a way to beat the steep cost of percussion vests. Congratulations. My mucous clearing episodes, unlike yours, almost always occur in unannounced "obligatory" episodes of several minutes when I'm essentially out-of-commission for any other activity. Fortunately they seem to occur predominately at bed time. Also fortunately my wife's a night owl so is minimally bothered by the clamor I make.

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LOL. I guess we have saved a bit of money but it was directed by the respiratory therapist!
Thanks for you comments,

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