HypoThyroid and depression

Posted by pianohands123 @pianohands123, May 13 5:05pm

Hello, I have hypothyroidism and have been on medication for 15 years. I have a very healthy life style but have a full time job and 2 immediate family members that are living with mental illness. In the past years, I have noticed my energy levels reduced, and bouts of anxiety and depression that are very familiar to symptoms that lead to my diagnosis. I have tried antidepressants in the past, bit want to know if TMS would be an option for me instead of oral medicine. I have insurance and access locally to this treatment.

Hi @pianohands123 and welcome to Connect. Thank you for sharing your story and I am sorry to hear that your bouts of anxiety and depression are creeping back in. Connect has had numerous discussions regarding Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) and I thought you'd like to read some of those threads.
TMS for long term depression – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tms-therapy-for-long-term-depression/
Major depression, and TMS treatment, meds, group therapy have failed – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/major-depression-28b570/
major depression, medications don't work, would TMS help? – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/major-depression-24f495/
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/transcranial-magnetic-stimulation/

I would also like to invite @kimmym, @patdangelo, @parus, @anndomico, @roxie43, @fatigue, @callalily74, and @theotherone who have discussed either TMS or depression and anxiety in the past.

Here is some information that Mayo Clinic has on Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation therapy- http://mayocl.in/1QmRxP3.

Can you tell us a little more about yourself, @pianohands123? Have you and your doctor been discussing TMS?

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I understand your lifestyle, having been there in my past. Becoming a widow made my stress disappear, but I was with a support group, some of whom tried the TMS with mixed results. Only you can decide if it is effective for you. I healed myself with personal therapy with good success so far, but sometimes still have bad dreams if I sleep too hot. I continue to walk away from toxic people and don't feel guilty about it, as I want a stress free life before I die. It is important to develop self respect if it is lacking or has been abused in any way. I really feel good about life despite the isolation. I do projects. Dorisena

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@dorisena

I understand your lifestyle, having been there in my past. Becoming a widow made my stress disappear, but I was with a support group, some of whom tried the TMS with mixed results. Only you can decide if it is effective for you. I healed myself with personal therapy with good success so far, but sometimes still have bad dreams if I sleep too hot. I continue to walk away from toxic people and don't feel guilty about it, as I want a stress free life before I die. It is important to develop self respect if it is lacking or has been abused in any way. I really feel good about life despite the isolation. I do projects. Dorisena

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Hello
I read your note and your situation is so similar to mine. I am isolated due to my health and I read, watch Telly and work on creative projects. I too have found that trying to stay away from toxic people is extremely helpful for me. I have a tiny family and 3 out of 3 are very toxic. I just say when they stir up angry and abusive nonsense, I love you and I hope you have a nice day. I truly want to be happy and to enjoy the rest of this life that I have been given, even if it is alone. I have a dog and cat. Having a fur family with unconditional love is so wonderful. My best to you and your note really helped me a lot.

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@amandaburnett

Hi @pianohands123 and welcome to Connect. Thank you for sharing your story and I am sorry to hear that your bouts of anxiety and depression are creeping back in. Connect has had numerous discussions regarding Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) and I thought you'd like to read some of those threads.
TMS for long term depression – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/tms-therapy-for-long-term-depression/
Major depression, and TMS treatment, meds, group therapy have failed – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/major-depression-28b570/
major depression, medications don't work, would TMS help? – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/major-depression-24f495/
Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/transcranial-magnetic-stimulation/

I would also like to invite @kimmym, @patdangelo, @parus, @anndomico, @roxie43, @fatigue, @callalily74, and @theotherone who have discussed either TMS or depression and anxiety in the past.

Here is some information that Mayo Clinic has on Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation therapy- http://mayocl.in/1QmRxP3.

Can you tell us a little more about yourself, @pianohands123? Have you and your doctor been discussing TMS?

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Thank you all for sharing your experience with me.
You asked me to tell you more about myself. I am happily married to an amazing man who adores me, between to 2 of us we have 6 sons, 11 grandchildren. I worked for 20 years in the cosmetology field before making a career change about 10 years ago. I work for an awesome non profit and have wonderful people in my immediate circle. We have one son who was diagnosed with schizophrenia at age 18, and my mother who has a mood disorder. My siblings are disabled and do not help with her care, and much of the caregiving falls on me, she's very frail and unhappy. While I try very hard to make sure her needs are met, she is very difficult to be around, as she had BPD. In other words, she loves to hate me. I have risen above her problems, and limit my exposure to her negativity. It still lands once in a while. She and my father divorced when I was very small and he and I were close. I cared for my father when he became terminal, and saw him through to the other side, it was an honor to give this last act of love and kindness to my dad. After his death, I became very weak and depressed. I went to the Dr when I couldn't get out of bed on my own, to eventually diagnosed with extremely low thyroid function. My father had graves disease, and all my aunt's have low thyroid, so I'm sure I have had this most my life. The symptoms of low thyroid include many of the side effects of antidepressants, and I am at a place now in my life, I don't want to have the double whammy. My husband and I are approaching our retirement years, and we want to enjoy what time we have together, after a long journey helping so many others. I thought of TMS as an alternative to my anxiety and bouts of depression.

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I would think that trying something other than pills for depression is a good idea. My son took them, went off, then went back on, then went off for good.
It has taken years but his is doing quite well with his mental health, having survived prostate cancer surgery and radiation. Are you treating the low thyroid?
I know what it is like to be stuck in care giving with someone who rejects you and the others don't or can't help with the care. I am so pleased to know you have a husband who adores you. Mine never did, and he didn't know how to learn to love other people. I had a close friend with a son with schizophrenia who beat her up and she landed in the hospital. He lives in a group home now. I support your trying something new to see if it works well for you.
I think it is an individual matter for each person's situation. Keep in touch. Dorisena

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Thank you for sharing. Blessings to you as you practice self-care. You have been very helpful.

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@dorisena

I understand your lifestyle, having been there in my past. Becoming a widow made my stress disappear, but I was with a support group, some of whom tried the TMS with mixed results. Only you can decide if it is effective for you. I healed myself with personal therapy with good success so far, but sometimes still have bad dreams if I sleep too hot. I continue to walk away from toxic people and don't feel guilty about it, as I want a stress free life before I die. It is important to develop self respect if it is lacking or has been abused in any way. I really feel good about life despite the isolation. I do projects. Dorisena

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Having too much stress has taken it's toll on me too. I have found trying some of your methods work for me too. Much of your situation is similar. I'm getting rid of toxic people in my life too. Two of them this week! I just know that this is going to help. I don't need to worry about them any more, and can easily avoid them. Thanks. Marie.

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@pianohands123 As others have suggested there are many possibilities for what you are experiencing but have you had your endocrinologist order a new TSH test? It is possible that the dosage you need should be adjusted, and if not enough may possibly cause what you are experiencing. That would be the first thing I would check.
JK

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@dorisena Do you see a psychiatrist, he may be able to help you with some medication. I'm on Lexapro, Lamictal, and Klonopin. But for my surgery it will change with my surgery. Great that you are getting rid of toxic people. This Covid-19 has gotten to all of us and that can add more stress. I feel it, but with my surgery that's what mostly what's on my mind. Even see your doctor, sometimes they will give you some medicine to help your stress. I know it's not fun. My thoughts are sent to you with a prayer.

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@contentandwell

@pianohands123 As others have suggested there are many possibilities for what you are experiencing but have you had your endocrinologist order a new TSH test? It is possible that the dosage you need should be adjusted, and if not enough may possibly cause what you are experiencing. That would be the first thing I would check.
JK

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I am on levothyroxine, and anxiety medication. Have had my regular check-up and am in the normal range. I am considering making changes in my career, as stress is a factor. With COVID 19, I pause to make any employment decision, I'm still working and so is my husband. The culture shift that seems to be happening,, creates a level of anxiety of its own. It is uncertain times to be sure. I have seen a therapist, and she doesn't feel my bouts of depression are clinical, more circumstance related. I have decided not to disengage with my family members, because, well, I am all they have, and they won't be on this earth forever. So, maybe I am my own worst enemy. Just trying to cope in these uncertain times. Thank you all for chimming in and offering support. Blessings and good thoughts from me.
Pianohands123

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@lilypaws

@dorisena Do you see a psychiatrist, he may be able to help you with some medication. I'm on Lexapro, Lamictal, and Klonopin. But for my surgery it will change with my surgery. Great that you are getting rid of toxic people. This Covid-19 has gotten to all of us and that can add more stress. I feel it, but with my surgery that's what mostly what's on my mind. Even see your doctor, sometimes they will give you some medicine to help your stress. I know it's not fun. My thoughts are sent to you with a prayer.

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You misunderstand, I am living stress free as a widow in a magnificent home close to my adult children. I wouldn't dream of taking medication for depression as I am a believer in talking it out and making changes in life to correct bad living partners. But I stayed in my marriage for 50 years, and my husband died sooner than we expected because he would not cooperate with any medical care. My sister took Klonopin and she declined mentally from living with her husband who had terrible OCD and would work on improvement. I have studied personality disorders for years, and am familiar with the problems that can't seem to get fixed. I understand alcoholism well after living with my husband's entire family who drank. That is all gone now in my life and my children and grandchildren dote on me during this isolation, as I stay home and they get me what I need. Some are working from home. I saw a psychiatrist years ago but he insisted on my husband coming for joint discussions and I laughed because my late husband said he had no problems. At one point I feared my husband wanted me dead, but I survived the crisis by being very cool and collected. I won. I am happy and content. Dorisena

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I meant to say my sister's husband would not cooperate or take medicine for OCD which helps in most cases. His entire family had OCD. It drove my sister crazy. She didn't treat her diabetes despite visiting the specialist. She became very obese. She lost most of her eyesight. She was not rational at times.
The she was diagnosed with schizophrenia. yes, I know a lot about mental disorders and I believe in making physical changes for bad relationships. However, I didn't do that, just waited until his bad health shortened his life. No one could reason with the man. I inherited well. Dorisena

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I want to ask everyone a very hard question. If your spouse is uncooperative, selfish, non loving, and mentally abusive, and drinks every two hours, even in the night, why does the doctor give you medication so you can stand the pain? I told my doctor that my husband had problems and he should give him the pills. He replied that he neve thought of it that way. Yes, I should have left after a few years of his controlling behavior, but I refused to give up taking care of my grandchildren before and after school while their mothers went to work. I knew that if I left he would find me and physically drag me back home.
So I stayed until his health went bad and he died. I took Xanax to sleep for a while but went off the drug before he died because I knew my bad journey would soon be over. I have no need of medications now in my contented life. I have learned a lot in 84 years. I should write it down, I think. Dorisena

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@dorisena

I want to ask everyone a very hard question. If your spouse is uncooperative, selfish, non loving, and mentally abusive, and drinks every two hours, even in the night, why does the doctor give you medication so you can stand the pain? I told my doctor that my husband had problems and he should give him the pills. He replied that he neve thought of it that way. Yes, I should have left after a few years of his controlling behavior, but I refused to give up taking care of my grandchildren before and after school while their mothers went to work. I knew that if I left he would find me and physically drag me back home.
So I stayed until his health went bad and he died. I took Xanax to sleep for a while but went off the drug before he died because I knew my bad journey would soon be over. I have no need of medications now in my contented life. I have learned a lot in 84 years. I should write it down, I think. Dorisena

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Yes, you should write it down. If more of this were available for young women to read, maybe they wouldn't jump into marriage so quickly. Maybe they would recognize their own worth. I'm just starting to see that I have some worth. Even though I'm surrounded by those that would have me believe otherwise. They are toxic people that would like to control me. Maybe if more of these thoughts were available to all women to read, we would have many more happy women in the world. You know how great a world would be if women were happy?

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@pianohands123

I am on levothyroxine, and anxiety medication. Have had my regular check-up and am in the normal range. I am considering making changes in my career, as stress is a factor. With COVID 19, I pause to make any employment decision, I'm still working and so is my husband. The culture shift that seems to be happening,, creates a level of anxiety of its own. It is uncertain times to be sure. I have seen a therapist, and she doesn't feel my bouts of depression are clinical, more circumstance related. I have decided not to disengage with my family members, because, well, I am all they have, and they won't be on this earth forever. So, maybe I am my own worst enemy. Just trying to cope in these uncertain times. Thank you all for chimming in and offering support. Blessings and good thoughts from me.
Pianohands123

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I really admire your attitude toward your family, saying you are all they have. Yes, they need you for what it's worth with their problems.
All my husband's family are gone now except a half sister, and she chooses to not have anything to do with me, which is fair to her since her half brother conned her out of half of her mother's home, and he didn't need the home or the money. I got the money and felt it was not good for me to take it so I gave it to my three children whom their grandfather loved very much. That seemed fair to me. Now my family is about gone except for nephews and nieces who have no interest in me, and that is their choice so I don't push itl I have taken an interest in making new friends that are more suitable to me, and though there aren't many, it is a good thing in our livesl. With this shutdown you can't have big groups at funerals, anyway, so I don't think much about friendships to maintain. I still like to volunteer and to help people who need it. I said I would sew a mask for anyone at church who wanted a medical one and couldn't get out to get it I am giving away beautiful tomato plants that are not needed for my garden, to help the community learn about growing some food. Yes, some people need me because it is all they have. Dorisena

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