Can Coughing Increase Size and Risk of Aortic Anuerysm

Posted by mjm3 @mjm3, Jan 28, 2025

I am 67 years old with an ascending aortic aneurysm diagnosed last July at 4.1. I am scheduled for a six month CT angiogram next month to check for any growth – which I’m hoping there is none. However, over the last few weeks I’ve been battling a cold that turned into bronchitis that turned into mild pneumonia. Subsequently, I developed a cough that could be quite jarring at times. Late night googling found many different sources of contradictory information, but one stuck out that said “yes, coughing can be very dangerous for an ascending aortic aneurysm.” it did not specify how it was dangerous.
I have tried to contact my cardiologist twice about this and I must not be asking my question correctly because the nurse calls back with the reply that if I have questions about a cough, see my general practitioner. The GP said she’s not a cardiologist ask my cardiologist. It’s a vicious cycle. The urgent care doctor that prescribed antibiotics for the pneumonia had no idea about a cough correlating to a risk of aneurysm, but said to ask my cardiologist😵‍💫. Just wondering if anyone else had asked or spoken to their doctors about coughing, and if it causes the aneurysm to expand rapidly? I hope I don’t sound crazy, but I’m just really concerned about everything with this newly diagnosed issue. I want to be as safe as I can, but how do you prevent yourself from coughing when you’re sick. Cough medicine only goes so far. Thanks for any insight.

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I have a lower abdominal aortic aneurysm 4.9 cm. I also have chronic COPD and cough pretty hard most of the time after 58 yrs of smoking. My coughs has never been a danger to my aneurysm. It's been holding steady at 4.9 for a good period of time now. Hope this helps you.

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@mpurnell53

Do you still smoke?

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I’m not a doctor and I’m not giving medical advice, but I am a 10-year survivor of a complete and sudden aortic dissection, and I’ve spent a lot of time learning about aortic disease, navigating the medical system, and advocating for my own care.

ONE: You should also be getting a referral to a thoracic aortic surgeon as soon as possible. Cardiologists and primary care doctors play a role in monitoring an aneurysm, but they don’t fix them—surgeons do. A thoracic aortic surgeon is the only specialist truly qualified to assess the long-term risks, determine the best monitoring plan, and decide when (or if) intervention is needed. Many cardiologists, even very good ones, simply don’t have the expertise in aortic pathology to fully evaluate what’s going on beyond the standard “watch and wait” approach. Surgeons, on the other hand, spend their careers seeing how these aneurysms behave over time, understanding the subtleties of surgical timing, and weighing the risk of waiting versus intervening. Personally, I would not trust anyone but a surgeon who specializes in aortic disease to tell me whether I need surgery, how often I should be scanned, or what my true level of risk is. You don’t need to be scheduling surgery tomorrow, but you do need to establish a relationship with the specialist who will be responsible for making those calls down the road.

A 4.1 cm ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm falls into that gray area where it’s technically “mild,” but still something that requires monitoring. The real question isn’t just the size—it’s what else is going on with the aorta. Growth rate, family history, connective tissue disorders, blood pressure control, and valve function all play a role in risk assessment.

TWO: You’re absolutely right to push for a cardiologist. Aneurysms aren’t primary care medicine, and it’s frustrating when you meet resistance just trying to get in the right hands. A primary care doctor saying, “See you in 2-3 years” might be reasonable for a completely stable, slow-growing aneurysm, but it’s not a sufficient plan without deeper evaluation—especially if this was only diagnosed a few months ago. I get scanned every 12 months at a world class heart care center with state of the art CT with contrast, University of Minnesota - Minneapolis.

When you talk to your doctor on Monday , you might want to emphasize:

a. You want an aortic specialist or a cardiologist experienced in aortic disease. Not all cardiologists focus on aortic pathology, and a general cardiologist may not have the expertise to assess your long-term risk.
b. You need to know the growth rate. Did they compare this to any prior scans? Was it previously smaller, or is this a new finding?
c. You want a clear monitoring plan. Ask why they think 2-3 years is an appropriate timeline and if more frequent imaging (every 6-12 months) is warranted given your age and aneurysm location.

THREE: Exercise and Elevation
Again, not medical advice, but elevation and exercise are common concerns with aortic aneurysms. Some things to ask your doctor:
a. Blood pressure response at high altitudes – The body compensates for lower oxygen levels at high elevation by increasing heart rate and blood pressure, which can stress the aortic wall.
b. Valsalva maneuvers – Anything that causes sudden spikes in blood pressure (heavy lifting, straining, intense isometric exercise) can be risky for an aneurysm.
c. Cardio limits – Many doctors recommend low-to-moderate intensity exercise rather than pushing into high-intensity zones. Hiking is often fine, but with precautions.
d. Medication adjustments – Some people with aneurysms are put on beta-blockers or other medications to reduce stress on the aorta, especially if they are active.

FOUR: Coughing and Aortic Disease
A strong, uncontrolled cough can spike intrathoracic pressure and cause strain on the aortic wall. If you ever develop a chronic cough, shortness of breath, or any weird chest sensations, it’s worth bringing up. Some people with aneurysms (especially near the arch) have symptoms that can get dismissed as “normal” but are actually the aorta compressing nearby structures.

If you’re not getting the answers you need, keep pushing. Many of us with aortic disease have had to advocate hard to get the right specialist. Aneurysms are serious, even when they’re considered “mild,” and getting ahead of the game now can make all the difference later. Peace.

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@moonboy
What happened when you had your dissection? Were you in extreme pain? Were you close to the hospital? I have read that a lot people die before getting a heart surgeon to the Hosptial.. it’s all so scary !!

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I find medical self defense essential these days. You may want to look up these current diagnostic guidelines:

"An ascending aorta (AAo) measurement of 4.1 cm is generally classified as "dilated," not a true medical aneurysm.
According to the official American College of Cardiology / American Heart Association (ACC/AHA) Joint Guidelines for aortic disease, an ascending thoracic aorta between 4.0 cm and 4.4 cm is considered enlarged or dilated. It typically does not officially cross the threshold into a "true aneurysm" until it reaches 4.5 cm or larger."

The recommendation from my doc for watch and wait is reliant at the beginning on having two scans 6 mos apart, which do not show significant growth. Then 6 mos - 1yr scans for long term observation. But if a first scan showed 4.1 and 6 mos later it had increased more than 0.1-0.2 in that amount of time, that would indicate need for immediate follow up. I am doing echocardiogramss rather than having more contrast injections or radiation so frequently. Also, being on Losartan or some of the other BP control meds not only keeps my blood pressure down but has protective effects on AO tissue and is part of my watch and wait plan.

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Extraordinarily excruciating pain. I knew I was dying. I was in Old Town in San Diego. The ambulance was there within 2.5 minutes. I was transported to ER first, stabilized, and then transported to surgery in La Jolla six miles away. It was the MOST PAINFUL thing I have ever experienced.

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Extraordinarily excruciating pain. I knew I was dying. I was in Old Town in San Diego. The ambulance was there within 2.5 minutes. I was transported to ER first, stabilized, and then transported to surgery in La Jolla six miles away. It was the MOST PAINFUL thing I have ever experienced.

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@moonboy
Bless your Heart! Literally
I’m so glad you were blessed to be close to hospital and have drs that knew what to do. That’s my fear. And not having heart surgeons available fast enough.

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@moonboy
Bless your Heart! Literally
I’m so glad you were blessed to be close to hospital and have drs that knew what to do. That’s my fear. And not having heart surgeons available fast enough.

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@angiecabinfever1
So you didn’t know you had a heart problem? How did they figure out so fast what it was? Did you have chest pain and back pain?

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I find medical self defense essential these days. You may want to look up these current diagnostic guidelines:

"An ascending aorta (AAo) measurement of 4.1 cm is generally classified as "dilated," not a true medical aneurysm.
According to the official American College of Cardiology / American Heart Association (ACC/AHA) Joint Guidelines for aortic disease, an ascending thoracic aorta between 4.0 cm and 4.4 cm is considered enlarged or dilated. It typically does not officially cross the threshold into a "true aneurysm" until it reaches 4.5 cm or larger."

The recommendation from my doc for watch and wait is reliant at the beginning on having two scans 6 mos apart, which do not show significant growth. Then 6 mos - 1yr scans for long term observation. But if a first scan showed 4.1 and 6 mos later it had increased more than 0.1-0.2 in that amount of time, that would indicate need for immediate follow up. I am doing echocardiogramss rather than having more contrast injections or radiation so frequently. Also, being on Losartan or some of the other BP control meds not only keeps my blood pressure down but has protective effects on AO tissue and is part of my watch and wait plan.

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@k3b
I so agree with the self defense plan. I just don’t want to be in the dark about anything and up until a few weeks ago no one gave me any precautionary measures or advice. Until I reached out to My cardiologist and said I need to be seen instead of his nurse practitioner. The other thing I read your not suppose to take ibuprofen and I asked his nurse and she said it’s fine and then I said please ask dr then she said said he said no. So I’m like feeling like why does it feel no one cares or knows anything.

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