What are your healthy recipes for someone living with prostate cancer?

@surftohealth88

Thanks...the one thing that will be hard for him is raw goat milk. We love it from our friends farm, but he uses just about 1/4 cup a day in his coffee. Wonder if that is acceptable?
Also I thought they said red meat maybe 2 times a month if its lean?
Lastly how do you get your protein?
THX

@fmdsouthard chicken and fish is good. Especially when on ADT and older meeting protein minimum requirement si important.

@fmdsouthard

Oh I envy you ; ) being so close to goat farm - I LOVE goat milk and goat cheese. If you ask me (and I am not world expert on milk carcinogenic effects), bovine (cow) milk is the worst and all studies were done on cow milk and most showed that it is not healthy for humans, and not only because of cancer risk.

In my humble opinion it is not because it is "cow" that is producing it , but because cows are treated with tons of hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and their food contaminated with herbicides and they are fed all kind of crap. Even "pasture" fed cows are sprayed with pesticide and let out to drink contaminated local water wells ?
Now goats are not treated by any of that because it is not possible to do so. Goats do not eat anything but herbal matter and they eat all kind of herbs and plants and leaves of which many have medicinal properties and end up excreted in goat milk. Goats are not treated with growth hormones since they are not raised for slaughter and meat but mostly for milk and cheese production . BTW, good luck finding organic goat milk in stores in spring time - there are NONE since goat-kids are born and they need milk ! So goat farms are by definition more natural and clean and "organic". Goat milk also has health benefits !!! But that is another story.

The latest study that was done on cow milk determined (do not ask me how) that consuming less than one small cup of cow milk a day does not increase a risk. So, if your husband drinks only 1/4 a cup of goat milk a day (which is much cleaner and healthier), it should be safe to do so and especially since you know the farmer - oh what a blessing indeed 🥰.

Red meat - again, if he really hates fish and chicken, than 2 times a month of lean organic meat (and regular portion, not mega burger or huge steak ) could be OK, I say could since it would be better to stick with fish and chicken or turkey, shrimp, etc., but eating beef once a month should not be a problem. Same as with goat milk - organic New Zealand baby lamb shanks would be MUCH healthier than fatty big peace of US mass production beef hamburger. One just needs to find alternatives that are better and healthier.

Would it be the best that we are all eating vegan diet - it would. Is it feasible to most of the people - it is not. Should we just give up than and eat junk 24/7 - I do not think so ; ). We can just try to make as many healthy choices as possible, that is the whole idea.

Hope I was of any help 💖🤗

@fmdsouthard - ok, as I’m making stuff at home that I *think* is healthier, I’ll post it here.

The other night, I made bean burritos. My version starts with making the refried beans sort of from scratch:

1 TB avocado oil
1 small onion, chopped fine
1-2 cloves garlic, minced, pressed, or grated
1 can low-sodium pinto beans, undrained
1/4 cup water
Salt, to taste (start with 1/4 tsp and go from there

Heat the oil over med-hi in a 9-inch or so nonstick skillet. Add the onion and sauté until just starting to color, 7-9 minutes maybe. Toss in the garlic and cook for just 30 seconds or so, just until you can smell it, then in with the undrained beans and the water.

Adjust the head to maintain a good simmer. You need it to reduce, but you don’t want it to splash everywhere, either. While it’s simmering, mash the beans until the mixture reaches the consistency you like. You could use a potato masher or a fork, but with a nonstick skillet, I like to use the back of a wide wooden spoon and a fork. I drag a few beans up on the back of the spoon, mash them, then scrape them back down into the pan. Keep repeating until they’re as smooth as you like.

Simmer and stir occasionally until they reduce down to the thickness you prefer, which can take several minutes (and they’ll thicken as they cool). If they get too thick, you can always add a little water to thin them out. Finally, taste for seasoning and add salt as needed.

To make the burritos, I use whole wheat tortillas (heated on the “keep warm” setting in my oven), and I fill them with maybe 1/3 cup of beans, 2 TB low-fat cheese, a generous amount of shredded lettuce, a generous amount of chopped tomatoes, and 2 TB low-fat sour cream - wrap and eat (careful, don’t overfill).

Making my own refried beans, I can control the amount and type of fat used, and I can control the sodium, to a certain degree. Same with the fillings.

I’ll post other things periodically.

I'm so sorry but I will be of zero help with your husband's diet. I will say this though. I'm a Gleason 9 with a Christmas tree of mets. Throughout this journey, treatment sucks and side effects suck. I will not add another suck by eating things I don't like. I don't like grass or leaves or any other thing that my dinner eats for dinner. I'm feeding me, not my prostate. I eat steak often. I would probably eat it every day but unfortunately (or thankfully, depending on your point of view), I can't afford that so some things that are "good for you" in someone's opinion, creep in from time to time.

My point is he's dealing with cancer, treatment, and all the crappy side effects thereof. Please let him eat what he wants every now and then. A couple of steaks and a couple of pizzas (or insert his favorites here) a month aren't going to kill him (unless he chokes on it, of course). Best wishes to you both!

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Aw heck...here's a couple easy ones that aren't terribly unhealthy, that slip into my diet when I'm out of steak:

Oven Roasted Whole or Breast of Quail:

Remove skin
Pat dry
Brush lightly with EVOO
Sprinkle with poultry or Bell's seasoning
Bake in pre-heated 450-degree oven for 15-20 minutes
Rest for 15 minutes (important)
Enjoy!

Change of pace...use curry in place of Bell's

I usually serve it over some dirty rice variation.

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Slow Cooker Rabbit

Whole meat rabbit cleaned and quartered
potatoes - large cubed
carrots - 2 inch cut
onion - diced
olive oil
flour - seasoned (pepper, garlic powder)
1 - 2 cups water - seasoned (pepper, garlic, sage, thyme, parsley, Worcestershire)

Dredge rabbit in seasoned flour
Brown rabbit in frying pan coated with olive oil
Add diced onion, sauté till clear
Place potato and carrot in bottom of slow cooker
Add rabbit/onion from fry pan - use pan drippings / scrapings for gravy if desired
Pour seasoned water over top
Cover and slow cook on low 6-8 hours. Done when veggies are fork soft and rabbit falls from bone.

Sorry that there are few measurements. I just eyeball everything. Also, I don't use salt so feel free to add.

@mjp0512
Thanks Mjp for sharing 😃 ! I wanted to ask you if you ever eat your quails but worried that you might not, and that my question would be improper since some people treat poultry as pets. I did not have the chance to eat quails more than handful of times (in some expensive restaurants) and meat was delicious !
My younger daughter loves rabbit meat but she can eat it only when she travels to Europe since here it is not available. Unfortunately I do not have anybody in my family that is a hunter so those delicacies are out of my reach. ENJOY !!! : )))

@surftohealth88 - I know I have an advantage in that I just walk out back for fresh game meat like quail and rabbit since I raise them, but any good local butcher should have access. Both proteins are becoming increasingly popular. Probably a little pricey to put on the menu as a staple if you're buying retail, but for an occasional treat, they certainly are available. Just need to find the right butcher.

Rabbits 10 weeks and quail cacciatore

@mjp0512
OMG that quail looks so delicious !!!!! 😍 AND you say you just plop steak on a grill - look at this !!! Must be succulent and falling off the bones tender . : )))

Those bunnies are adorable - what breed are they ? : )))

The only option for me would be finding a good butcher which I was never able to find. It is even hard to find really fresh caught fish of all things and we live close to the ocean !!! The only place that used to sell it was closed during pandemic. It is easy for stores to sell fish that is not fresh since nobody actually here in the Bay Area knows how fresh fish looks like *sigh. When I see those sunken foggy eyes or pale gills and sticky skin my stomach turns ...

@surftohealth88 - Hey, I never said I couldn't cook. I just said I like steak. 😁

Bunnies are Beveren 🐰🐰🐰

@mjp0512 Good for you! Life with prostate cancer sucks enough without having to beat yourself up that maybe YOU caused it by eating something!😖😖😖
And maybe you’ll “Bring it Back” If you eat meat, eggs, dairy and other foods you love…bunk!!!!
We’re all gonna die from something and trust me, I’ve heard and seen enough stories of people who survived ‘X’ only to die horribly from ‘Y’. It strikes me as nonsensical to think you have the power over your own life and death with a sprig of broccoli or a cup of soymilk! Talk about magical thinking🤯.
I had those quail eggs of yours poached over a frisee salad in France; the lumps of goat cheese contrasted nicely with the salty, crackly lardons. If that meal - and others like it - gave me cancer it was worth every wonderful mouthful😋😋😋
Phil
PS: I was going to send this to you privately, but decided to live dangerously…it’s my opinion, nothing more, and was encouraged by your refreshing frankness on this surprisingly controversial topic.
Best,
Phil