Relief from Radiation Fibrosis Syndrome

Posted by stephenrfleury @stephenrfleury, May 13, 2025

Had SCC on the base of my tongue and a couple of lymph nodes in 2020 and was treated with radiation and chemo. Like many of you, I had pretty severe fibrosis in my neck.

In the past month, I had a combination of 2 treatments at Mayo in Phoenix. First, I had Botox injections in my neck to relieve some of the stiffness in the muscles. Those were followed up with a surgery called fat grafting, where they harvest fat cells from your body (belly for me), and inject those cells into your neck to soften the fibrosis. They also breakup some of large fibrotic cords. It has relieved just about all of my pain and much of the stiffness.

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@chubbell42 It seems like if you were treated at Mayo, your oncologist should be able to provide a reference. Second thought, get your PCP to refer you to Plastic Surgery or PT to talk with Dr. Keole.

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@chubbell42 It seems like if you were treated at Mayo, your oncologist should be able to provide a reference. Second thought, get your PCP to refer you to Plastic Surgery or PT to talk with Dr. Keole.

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@leahmary29 So here is a bit more info on fat grafting surgery.

So I am 5 and a half years out from SCC on the base of my tongue and in a couple of lymph nodes on the left side. I was treated with proton radiation (33 treatments and 70 gys) and chemo (7 treatments of Taxol and Carboplatin) at Phoenix Mayo. Good news is that all my scans have been clean and I have been declared cancer-free.

Like many people, I had/have a handful of side effects including a very stiff neck with constant low grade pain. I tried stretching, etc. but it didn't make much difference.

I was referred to the Plastic Surgery group for an evaluation and was offered 2 things - Botox injections every 90 days, combined with fat grafting surgery. So about 8 weeks before my surgery, I had the first set of Botox injections to loosen or soften up my neck.

The surgery itself takes about 90 minutes as an outpatient. Please remember I am not a doctor so I don't know the real medical terms, but I think you'll get the idea. First, they harvest fat, in my case from my stomach via liposuction. They purify it so they could reinject it into my neck.

Then they make a couple of incisions, one on each side of your neck, kind of in the crease of your lower neck. They then do a few things. First, they make incisions in the sheath that resides under the skin that allows additional range of motion. Then they "cut" the fibrous cords that formed from the radiation, I guess it's really scar tissue. Then they clean up other scar tissue. Then they inject the purified fat under the skin.

For me (and I believe most people), the liposuction was quite painful for perhaps two weeks. During that time, I wore a corset (?) around my waste that covered from the bottom of my rib cage to just below my belly button. The surgery pain was reasonably non-existent since the incisions are small. The pain from the stiffness was gone right away. The skin felt soft and elastic on the right side. The pain was gone on both sides was but the skin wasn't as pliable on the left. I started PT the next day, for a month or so. My flexibility was just under the low range of normal.

About 6 months later, I had it done again, same process as the first time. The pain is still gone and my flexibilty is normal, except the movement when you tilt your head and move your ear towards your shoulder. It improved, but just below normal. For example looking up, prior to the surgery I was at 21 degrees, after the first one 47 degrees and after the second 57 degrees.

I had the first surgery in April of 2025 and the second in October. I continue to get Botox Injections quarterly.

I hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

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@stephenrfleury thank you so much for this description! Calling Mayo tmrw! I am sorry it took me so long to reply.

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Hello Stephen, I too suffer from neck fibrosis from radiation and I was going to physical therapy for hard deep massage a long time and it helped a lot. I couldn't keep going so I bought a SKG H7 Cordless Neck Massager on Amazon for $100. And I also bought a Plantifique Gua Sha facial massage which I use with Hawk Grips massage lotion. I use them once a day or every other day. I also do a lot of neck stretching. It's a little investment, but I think they all help a lot. It's painful at times, but the neck feels much better in the morning. Lastly, I also go to Acupuncture. Along with the Acupuncture, my doctor gives my trigger point shots in the neck hard areas. I haven't tried Botox, but I'm going to ask my doctor on my next visit.

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Hello Stephen, I too suffer from neck fibrosis from radiation and I was going to physical therapy for hard deep massage a long time and it helped a lot. I couldn't keep going so I bought a SKG H7 Cordless Neck Massager on Amazon for $100. And I also bought a Plantifique Gua Sha facial massage which I use with Hawk Grips massage lotion. I use them once a day or every other day. I also do a lot of neck stretching. It's a little investment, but I think they all help a lot. It's painful at times, but the neck feels much better in the morning. Lastly, I also go to Acupuncture. Along with the Acupuncture, my doctor gives my trigger point shots in the neck hard areas. I haven't tried Botox, but I'm going to ask my doctor on my next visit.

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@harleytiger had radiation & chemo nasopharyngeal treatment in 2006 - and in mid 2020 diagnosed with late effects of radiation - severe neck fibrosis, dysphagia - swallowing, dysarthria - speech, numbness in lowere jaw and lip, and drooling - all stems from late effects.
Just like you - have been doing exercises to neck, and mouth stretching, going for myofascial once every 2 weeks, and lately got a red light therapy device to assist - in the hope that I going forward I will not have the need for a feeding tube to assist in nutrition!!
I have brought this Botox injection to my oncologist a year ago - but, have not have any referral from him.
Good luck with your Botox !

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@harleytiger had radiation & chemo nasopharyngeal treatment in 2006 - and in mid 2020 diagnosed with late effects of radiation - severe neck fibrosis, dysphagia - swallowing, dysarthria - speech, numbness in lowere jaw and lip, and drooling - all stems from late effects.
Just like you - have been doing exercises to neck, and mouth stretching, going for myofascial once every 2 weeks, and lately got a red light therapy device to assist - in the hope that I going forward I will not have the need for a feeding tube to assist in nutrition!!
I have brought this Botox injection to my oncologist a year ago - but, have not have any referral from him.
Good luck with your Botox !

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@josk The doctors don't tell how radiation takes the good out of everything almost. Their only care is that the cancer is gone, side effects don't concern them. I wish I knew then what I know now. It would be different.

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I find this conversation interesting. I've dealt with this issue for 2 decades and have become so accustomed to the limitations that it hadn't occurred to me there might be a solution. I'm not sure how invasive I'm willing to go, such as surgery, but massages and acupuncture seem reasonable. I guess I'll have to do some more reading to see if it's worth the trouble. None of this information has been made available to me by the doctors I've seen over the years. I'm glad I found the Mayo site.

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@josk The doctors don't tell how radiation takes the good out of everything almost. Their only care is that the cancer is gone, side effects don't concern them. I wish I knew then what I know now. It would be different.

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@harleytiger so true ... chances are if I were made aware of the late effects of radiation then, and also have had the chance of encountering head and neck cancer survivors having to cope and handle all these late effects -- I most probably would have opted out of the radiation part!!
Then again - when diagnosed at that time - I didn't have the know-how and the time to look into this.
I was on my own then - without any support - and had to handle all radiation appts and chemo on my own - and chances of doing research on this treatment is completely NIL.
Going forward ... doing best to cope and handle these late effects.
Take care!!!

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I find this conversation interesting. I've dealt with this issue for 2 decades and have become so accustomed to the limitations that it hadn't occurred to me there might be a solution. I'm not sure how invasive I'm willing to go, such as surgery, but massages and acupuncture seem reasonable. I guess I'll have to do some more reading to see if it's worth the trouble. None of this information has been made available to me by the doctors I've seen over the years. I'm glad I found the Mayo site.

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@56tburd wow .. 2 decades !!
I had radiation and chemo treatment in 2026, and late effects started in mid 2020. I was not aware of all these late effects that I am having now - and I went through a 'panic' mode in the first couple of years - but now, resigned myself to the fact that it's here to stay - and am trying to cope.
Re swallowing - am ok for the time being - cut my food into little pieces, soft food - and avoid meals or eating out in public - pretty much am on my own. Is this how you handle swallowing issues?
Also, as told my oncologist I refuse to have a feeding tube for nutrition intake.
I, too, am glad that I found this site!!
Take care!!

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