Does the anxiety or fear of this prognosis ever get better?
Maybe it’s just me, but since my diagnosis a few weeks ago my anxiety is through the roof. I made appointments with 2 different Endocrinologist and I have my first appointment tomorrow, hoping it will help put me at ease. As soon as I wake up in the morning it’s the first thing I think of or even in the night if I wake up to roll over. The information is so overwhelming do this not that, then you’ll read something saying the total opposite. The statistic of 1 out of 2 women will get a fracture is mind numbing. I feel like I’m doomed no matter what I do. Every time I get a twinge in my back I now think, here we go. I’m 60 and have no other health problems and take no medications, yet. I exercise every day now and listen to books on tape to get mind focused on something else. I’m not afraid to do the work, just afraid of the future outcomes, which I know I can’t control, but anxiety and fear have their own ideas.
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Yup we’re all doomed, one way or another. You are young to have to deal with this. I was diagnosed at 65 and my PCP put me on Alendronate telling me ‘it works’. What? How? I was fit and active. I didn’t start doing my own research til a couple years ago at age 71 and so perhaps I missed the opportunity to build bone. Anxiety instead of denial can be a motivator for you to face the available choices and make your best decision. I suggest research on your own about the prognosis and medication choices at trusted sites so you’ll be prepared to ask good questions of the endocrinologists. A better choice than presenting with anxiety and expecting them to allay fears because that’s not their expertise and you may not get the factual info you need if they don’t think you can hear it. The anxiety is telling you there is indeed something to be worried about and addressed. Trust yourself to get to a point of making the best decisions you can. None of the choices are great but there are choices. One point I just learned is that a bone builder followed by a reabsorptive has better results than going in the reverse direction, Rooting for you in this very human of dilemmas! Hugs 🥰
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4 Reactions@lynn59 How were you able to get Forteo/teriparatide without having a fracture? People I have heard from said that they cannot get that bone-building anabolic until they have an osteoporosis related fracture, so it would be very interesting to compare your experience.
BTW, you might be interested in this 2024 retrospective study that someone else on this forum originally linked that shows good results with following Forteo/teriparatide with Evenity/romosozumab.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11601723/
Excerpt: "Regarding therapy switching between bone-forming agents, this study suggests that transitioning from teriparatide to romosozumab increases BMD more effectively than transitioning in the opposite sequence."
After blindly accepting alendronate for 18 months I discontinued it and started doing BHRT and LIFTMOR type exercise. Hoping that additional medications are many years off for me, but I want to learn now.
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2 ReactionsI just joined the group a few minutes ago and I'm 67. Don't even know where to start. I'm just wondering why I see people referring to it as a disease. Doesn't it just mean our bones are aging? I have a list of all the plant based foods that are high in calcium. Is it possible to avoid drugs? I'm so nervous about side effects and don't even know what kind of doctor to see. A rheumatologist? I have no idea.
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Welcome. There is a wealth of experience here. Make sure you read through the subheadings under Osteoporosis. Take it a chunk at a time rest, give your brain a chance to digest the info that seems pertinent to you and ask questions .
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2 ReactionsI've refused the osteoporosis medications for 20 years, ever since I was "diagnosed" with osteopenia on my first DEXA. My second DEXA showed stability in the T-scores, but the endocrinologist STILL pushed the meds. Be apprised that virtually all endocrinologists will push meds--you could consult with 100 and find no difference among them. And they'll insist that serious side effects are "extremely rare"--a claim that the thousands of anecdotal patient reports to the contrary, on support sites such as this, call into question. My own belief, from reading over the last two decades and following patients' firsthand reports, is that this "disease" is being overhyped and that meds to "treat" it are being prescribed indiscriminately, to the detriment of many. I don't think I can post a link in this forum, but one article you may find of interest can be found on the website of npr.org--it's entitled "How a bone disease grew to fit the prescription." It details the arbitrariness behind the DEXA system, which is currently used as the sole determinant of who falls within the "needs treatment" category. As for the "1 out of 2 women will get a fracture" statistic: also be aware that there's a recent trend for doctors to designate virtually ALL fractures, including those that were unquestionably considered traumatic--e.g., slip-and-fall wrist fractures sustained on ice--as "fragility fractures," thus enabling the expansion of women who "need treatment." The "1 out of 2" does not mean those fractures were all major, e.g, hip fractures, and it's dishonest if those who cite that statistic are implying otherwise.
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4 Reactions@otherside I agree with you. Doctors prescribing Fosamax will say it offers a 50% fracture reduction. What that means as an "absolute risk" is that if 100 women with severe bone loss take Fosamax for three years, instead of two people getting a hip fracture -- only one person will get a fracture, a 50% improvement. So, to prevent one hip fracture, 98 women take the drug with no fracture benefit.
From AI Assist: "Bisphosphonates are estimated to prevent 1 hip fracture for every 100 women treated over three years. However, they are more effective at reducing vertebral fractures, with a higher prevention rate."
Consumer reports article: https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/04/popular-osteoporosis-drugs-come-with-mounting-concerns/index.htm
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1 Reaction@junesiegel technically speaking I suppose it is a disease although I never thought of it that way. It is possible to avoid drugs for some people. There are some natural protocols and doctors tend to hate them…unless they are functional medicine or naturopathic. It’s a hard decision to make. A rheumatologist or endocrinologist is the way to go…unless you can afford to go with a functional medicine doctor or naturopath. They are not covered by insurance and supplements can be pricey. You also need to be consistent with weight bearing exercises.
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Thank you. That tells me a lot. I'll look for that article. I don't know why it's called a disease. I'm functioning, very active, and eat well. My blood scores are all in normal ranges. I take Vit D, K2, Mg, and B12. I know my own dr will be happy to call it a disease that needs treatment. In fact, she emailed me telling me to come in to discuss. Of course she wants her fee. It's all big business and it's scary. I'm not ready to deal with any side effects of drugs.
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2 Reactions@daisy17 I have always heard from Dr. Greger that Fosamax is the cause of bone fractures. And that calcium pills cause heart attacks in women.
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1 Reaction@junesiegel I looked up Dr Greger and found this video of him discussing bisphosphonates and the fact that they offer minimal fracture prevention. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-well-do-medicines-life-fosamax-work-to-treat-osteoporosis/