Using CBD/THC Oil to fight metastatic lung cancer

Posted by lighthouse68 @lighthouse68, Aug 10, 2018

I am looking for suggested starting dosage information

@lady1lake

Am thinking of trying it again.

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Do! I started taking it while managing my sisters stage 4 lung cancer. It literally saved my life and managing my 3 super small kids these last 6 months. My anxiety from cancer and all its related stresses is managable and I just feel better. Have your family members and care givers take it too! I do 10mg of CBD in the morning for anxiety and 10mg at night to help with sleep.

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Thank you!

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Thank you for your comments. I will be the lab mouse.

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@ellisandjane

Do! I started taking it while managing my sisters stage 4 lung cancer. It literally saved my life and managing my 3 super small kids these last 6 months. My anxiety from cancer and all its related stresses is managable and I just feel better. Have your family members and care givers take it too! I do 10mg of CBD in the morning for anxiety and 10mg at night to help with sleep.

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Thank you for your helpful words. They are greatly appreciated at this time.

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@dadsangel

Curious- with all the state regulations and time required to get approved what do folks think about the cbd oils as an immediate option? Is it a scam like weight loss herbs? Or have folks seen results?

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How do people know how much to take and if they are on other medications will that affect you. Who do you go talk to to get your answers from a professional. I am too “chicken” to try it without some form of medical guidance for both long cancer and spinal stenosis.

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@sakota– Good morning. First you have to research the meds that you are taking and if they are compatible with CBD oil. I am on 2 different antidepressants and take CBD oil. I have no side effects other than the ones that I need.
Is their a dispensary near you? You can call them and ask, or ask your doctor. It's always a good thing to do that anyway.
You must have an ortho guy and I know that you have an oncologist. Have you checked with either?

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Thank you for sharing.

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@cindylb

I hope I was not misunderstood. I never said that CBD or THC is a 'cure' nor am I trying to give anyone false hope in treating or managing their cancer journey. However, the articles I referenced and the information we received from not one but three oncology groups (in relation to my husband's cancer treatment) were to use it if tolerable for him (which it is) as an adjunct to his medical care. If you will read the NIH reports they do state that CBD and THC show promise in treatment of cancer. Other uses have been confirmed as well now. The problem with CBD and THC is that with it's legal status little research has been possible and it frustrates some doctors because they see the early research and wish they had more concrete information. I am not a 'snake oil salesman' and I hope I have presented my thoughts carefully.
I think it should be noted that so many conventional cancer treatments used today can have serious side effects and limited efficacy as well and alternatives such as CBD and THC shouldn't be pushed aside without consideration.
I am 3 years cancer free (5 years from my initial diagnosis) of breast cancer. I didn't look to CBD or THC for myself although it was offered. I just now added it to my healthy lifestyle choices AND medical treatment, which included a bi lateral mastectomy. I am not suggesting that people look to a miracle drug for cure but instead evaluate all their options in treating their cancer because to be honest…………medical science is a practice and it's constantly evolving. I meant no harm or disrespect but ignoring alternative options is not wise either.

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Could you tell me the dosage your husband uses please ?

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@samanthaezu

No dear we are not vegetarian…but we were not sure of giving her meats…..she is not alone…..but I see many write ups in Google that talks about ….that potatoes are not good for cancer patient…and moreover she hasn't undergone any chemo or surgery …so don't feel ok to give her potatoes

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I eat whatever body can tolerate. Eggs, avocados on toast are good proteins. Chicken, fish and some pork with veggies. Salads are very effie. Think it’s the greens that make me sick and I used to love salads. I eat potatoes or most things that agree with me. I live alone except following chemo and am sick than sisters stay till I get my strength back.

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@richcolleen– Good morning. I think that you might have answered an old post. If you look at the top of a post it will give you the current date and even time of the post. But don't despair. I did this a lot when I was distracted or something piqued my interest. Besides this is a great topic, meals and nutrition. When I had chemo I ate only those things that I could tolerate, I left the room if a smell was noxious. I believe that even good nutrition can be waived during cancer. It sounds as if you have your diet figured out. Is there anything else that you can say about food during cancer treatments?

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@merpreb

@richcolleen– Good morning. I think that you might have answered an old post. If you look at the top of a post it will give you the current date and even time of the post. But don't despair. I did this a lot when I was distracted or something piqued my interest. Besides this is a great topic, meals and nutrition. When I had chemo I ate only those things that I could tolerate, I left the room if a smell was noxious. I believe that even good nutrition can be waived during cancer. It sounds as if you have your diet figured out. Is there anything else that you can say about food during cancer treatments?

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I agree, @merpreb. There is nothing wrong with posting a message to a useful discussion even if it was started a while back. We have some active discussions on Connect that were originally started in 2011 even.

@richcolleen, did you experience any taste changes with chemotherapy? In a discussion about sarcoma, a member asks about taste changes. You might wish to add your thoughts here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/ewing-sarcoma-in-fibula-of-16yo-girl/?pg=1#comment-342565

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@colleenyoung, @richcolleen– Good morning. When I had chemo is was taste changes that curbed my eating and made me feel ill. The taste change was from Cisplatin. Cisplatin is a complex of platinum based chemicals. I used an anti-nausea medication to help quell those nasty queasy feelings. I was able to continue to eat but very small amounts. My cancer is different than yours but chemo is chemo, don't you agree?

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@merpreb

@sakota– Good morning. First you have to research the meds that you are taking and if they are compatible with CBD oil. I am on 2 different antidepressants and take CBD oil. I have no side effects other than the ones that I need.
Is their a dispensary near you? You can call them and ask, or ask your doctor. It's always a good thing to do that anyway.
You must have an ortho guy and I know that you have an oncologist. Have you checked with either?

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I have found that oncologist will not give you a straight answer on whether you can take cbd or not.. they say there is not enough scientific evidence to prove it wont affect chemo or immuno therapy… here in Canada anyway

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@janlanderz– Good morning. You are right, there needs to be a lot more research done about CBD oil and how it interacts with your other medicines. The answer that you were given is pretty shabby for an oncologist. There is enough evidence to show that some oils interact with other drugs while others do not. This changes a lot depending on you, what you eat and drink and other drugs that you take and unfortunately these can change over time. However an allergy can occur in a split second.
While being treated for Being treated for cancer it's important that nothing interferes with those chemicals. If you aren't sure than please don't take the chance of taking it.
Meanwhile research those medicines that concern you. There are two reasons for this. First knowledge is power and we do need to look after ourselves. Secondly with more knowledge you will make better decisions. This is terrific because in the field of medicine, as it now is, we have little say as it is! Here are some links to get you started:

@colleen young wrote:
I encourage you to read these discussions in the Lung Cancer where members have talked about CBD and immunotherapy drugs to treat lung cancer.
– Pembrolizumab (Keytruda), Cannabis and Cannabinoids https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/nivolumabkeytruda-cannabis-and-cannabinoids/
– Cannabis oil and Immunotherapy https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/cannabis-oil-and-immunotherapy/
– Using CBD/THC Oil to fight metastatic lung cancer https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/using-cbdthc-oil-to-fight-metastatic-lung-cancer/

As @merpreb underlines in one comment "There is some research that indicates that CBD oil interferes with immunotherapy. And as you know, the use of CBD oil and how it interacts with other drugs is far from giving us definitive answers."
https://www.oncologynurseadvisor.com/general-oncology/cannabis-reduces-immunotherapy-response/article/688059/
https://oncologypro.esmo.org/Meeting-Resources/ESMO-2017-Congress/The-effect-of-cannabis-use-on-tumor-response-to-Nivolumab-in-patients-with-advanced-malignancies
https://www.medicaljane.com/2014/08/28/study-cannabinoids-may-increase-lung-cancers-susceptibilty-to-specialized-killer-cells/
https://medium.com/cbd-origin/is-it-safe-to-take-cbd-with-other-medications-cbd-drug-interactions-explained-446ed50b4758
Does this make sense?

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@cindylb

We are lucky here in Colorado. Marijuana is legal both medically and recreationally. Our doctors recommended it and gave my husband the medical marijuana card but we can also supplement as need be with recreational. My husband has a Stage 4 cancer of 'unknown primary' (after 10 months of testing and appointments)….we still don't know the cancer type BUT…….his tumor has gotten smaller and the overall lymph node activity has dropped every 3 months (confirmed via PET Scan) since he started using CBD and THC. Since we are doing no other treatment, we are cautiously optimistic that the marijuana is contributing to the decline in cancer activity. Our doctors are on board. There is an interesting article you can Google from the National Institutes of Health about the effect of CBD and THC for a number of medical concerns……there isn't much research yet because of the legal status but it being used for pain, inflammation and can in some way 'bind' to cancer cells they believe and kill the cells without harming healthy cells.
I am, as of tomorrow, 3 years cancer free from my breast cancer diagnosis and I too have started to use CBD only as a 'preventative'. I have noticed no ill effects. I use a small amount (vaping) before bed and it does relax me somewhat and I sleep well (ha ha). The CBD doesn't create the brain effects of THC but it seems to relax me and reduce some of my old lady pains that might otherwise keep me awake.
My husband has had no negative effects either……marijuana has been used for years and there don't seem to be long term effects for adults that are documented, so I figure……..adding it to all the other treatments and options……….why not!!
Hugs…..

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Hi, could you share the type/ brand of CBD oil your husband is using as well as dosage?

Thank you!

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