The Loneliness

Posted by Gratia @gratia, 2 days ago

How do you manage the profoundly lonely moments as a caregiver for your loved one with dementia? I’m a person who absolutely enjoys and needs a lot of “alone time”, however this situation somehow makes me feel much more lonely. And sad. Very sad. It’s probably the limited and circular conversations coupled with the loss of social life and work.
Thank you for listening.
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I hear you Karla. There is so much to manage when trying to take care of your loved one and everything else that they used to do but no longer have the mental capacity to take care of. This may seem silly or unhinged to some but I find myself having conversations out loud with myself. My husband can no longer participate in a conversation with me and I miss having someone to talk to about anything. I recognize that I am a very social person and I miss connecting to other people and finding out more about them. My husband once said that I am the only person he knows that can engage in a conversation with the check out clerk at the market and know all about how her day is going before all the groceries are bagged. The best thing about talking to myself is that I can verbalize what is on my mind good or bad in the moment. Saying it out loud seems to help me cope. Sometimes I think that I am really talking to God out loud. I think that we have to find a way to express our feelings to stay sane on this dementia journey. For me, keeping a journal helps as well as sharing my thoughts on this site. And when the sun comes out after a cloudy morning, I too feel that it's all going to work out somehow. Thanks for listening.

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@ocdogmom Thank you for telling me, "I hear you Karla." Yes, I've been talking to myself too, and I love to journal! Best, Karla

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@ocdogmom Thank you for telling me, "I hear you Karla." Yes, I've been talking to myself too, and I love to journal! Best, Karla

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@kjc48

Karla,

You will still be beautiful--with or without hair, or with or without a wig.

Sorry you, Gratia , @ocdogmom and others are going through a rough patch. We can do it!

Love,
George's Wife

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@kjc48

Karla,

You will still be beautiful--with or without hair, or with or without a wig.

Sorry you, Gratia , @ocdogmom and others are going through a rough patch. We can do it!

Love,
George's Wife

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@georgescraftjr Yes, George's Wife - been missing you! Hope you are good. Thank you for the kind words. But without hair, oh my..........life doesn't always deal us the things we want. That's for sure. But I guess in comparison with the Althzeimers Dementia, hair loss pales.....Best, Karla

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@gratia Your support gives me hope. Please know that. It feels good to know there are so many on this site, that care unconditionally, can empathize and reach out with loving support. Yes new chapters......that's how we have to look at this! I do try to be positive but wow, it's been "tricky" lately for me. And it doesn't help that I'm up there in years and losing my hair. Not a little alot of it. Sounds silly, but men look good bald. Women...not so......especially this woman. Oh well.......Next up, caregiving with a wig! Best, Karla

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@kjc48 Karla, You are a beautiful person inside & out.
I know a lot of people who wear hairpieces/toppers, & wigs. (I have a small collection) - I’m addicted to vintage scarves & use them as headband/hairwrap. My favorite fun knit hat with cat ears cheered me up all winter long.
Sending big hugs and positive thoughts your way!🤗

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I understand. I too enjoy alone time, or my quiet time as I call it, but there is a big difference in being alone by choice and being lonely. Lonely to me is missing my husband being able to talk clearly with me, share things with me, make plans with me… the everyday interacting that makes up life as a couple. This is not how I envisioned our retirement years to be. 😔

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It’s a good question- “how do I manage the lonely moments as a caregiver…” The question has made me stop and reflect- do I manage them? Or just experience them? I definitely experience them. It’s so hard to shift from having a life partner and husband that I could talk to and who could keep up with me, share witty stories, laugh at different situations, etc. and having all of that gone and replaced with someone who has circular discussions, can’t follow more than one simple step at a time, can’t discuss options or future opportunities with for fear of sending them into a spiral.
As I think about it, this group and a virtual caregiver group I participate in monthly definitely help by creating a sense of connection. My daughter is my other go-to adult and good friend. She helps me so much. I know she has her own life to live and I try to respect that and her time. I also do my best to stay connected to my sisters and my friends through texting and occasional visits but this definitely takes more effort and can get pushed off in the demands of daily caregiving. I also try to have something more interesting to talk about than my usual day to day when I reach out to them. I don’t think anyone really wants to hear about a morning trying to convince my husband that Mister Rogers was not a Navy seal or whatever other crazy things we spent the morning trying to resolve so he would take his medication and get dressed.
I miss being able to do things as a couple with other couples and have a dinner spent laughing and in engaging conversation. Mostly, he eats in silence and it requires his full concentration to feed himself, This is very different from our dinners “before”, and difficult for others to watch as well.
I don't mind the alone time now that he is sleeping more, and in some ways that is easier than the “loneliness” of being with him and having him not really “being there”. I find myself praying more, and that definitely helps me and reminds me that I am never alone because God is with me always.

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@mm180 I am just reading all the responses to "The Loneliness" thread...Thank you @gratia for beginning the conversation. The responses are so helpful and so vulnerable. I feel much the same at times. I recently read about ambiguous loss when dealing with a loved one with cognitive issues and in Alzheimer's disease. Ambiguous loss is a type of grief without closure or clear solution. Basically it leaves the griever (me and you) caught somewhere between hope and mourning. This term describes what I feel. This can trigger feeling of anxiety, grief, and guilt. I had a good cry for myself after discovering this term, yet felt better knowing my feelings are somewhat normal when dealing with this disease. I have been a caregiver for a few years now; my husband is on a maintenance program for Lecanemab with infusions once per month. He cannot be left alone for more than a couple of hours now. He barely uses his phone, has lost his executive function to complete tasks. So, like you, I take care of everything in the household, make all decisions for our lives with limited input from my spouse. Of course, I miss my previous life and feel lonely quite a bit. So I schedule things to do together. Small dinners with close friends, a concert in a small local venue, and walks by the ocean. I need my alone time and have begun asking family to stay one night so I can get away. My first time away was two weeks ago. I came home a new person with my sense of humor intact again. I wonder what will happen as he progresses? I am accepting his diagnosis and shifting my focus to not "fixing" him but adapting to my new reality-easier said that done. @IndianaScott What a great idea to write letters to yourself and others. It reminds me of a book I read recently "The Correspondent". Thanks everyone for sharing your fears, hopes and dreams. Karla @kjc48 Get the hairpiece! Thanks everyone and hugs from Cape Cod.

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I haven't experienced the physical loneliness as much as I have the loneliness (and fear) that comes with making all the decisions that we once made together. There's just no one to turn to, and everyday fills like this "push pull" of what's next on the list to decide on. Maybe it's my own personal situation on top of the MCI diagnosis last year with my husband, of a move out of our house due to mold, in limbo for 3 months in a hotel, a rental home that also had mold and moveout with a financial loss, another rental (that has yes, turned out great and I"m still in), and living out of storage for 7 months now while we're remodeling with that whole set of issues. Then planning to sell and finding someplace else to go all in the middle of all these lequembe infusions, MRI's, Pet scans, support groups, and just the normal everyday issues that come from insurance company changes, technology issues, medical portals, 1800 numbers that have all gone to AI, where just trying to get a "person" to next to impossible. So, on the brighter side, I'm sorry I'm ranting this morning - Thanks for listening......Ah, another day of decisionmaking and caregiving.......But the sun just came out! Best, Karla

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@kjc48
Hi Karla! My name is Karla too. We have more than our names in common. My husband has PD and dementia. His physical abilities have leveled off. His biggest affliction is Sundowning. He asks a thousand questions and gets angry if I don't give him what he thinks is the correct answer. He is hateful. This is not my husband of 52 years. The next day he remembers none of it. But I do and it is hard to get past day after day. I give every effort to be kind because I know it isn't his fault. If he could change it, he would. All I can say is hang in there. I will pray for comfort and peace for you. Karla

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@mm180 I am just reading all the responses to "The Loneliness" thread...Thank you @gratia for beginning the conversation. The responses are so helpful and so vulnerable. I feel much the same at times. I recently read about ambiguous loss when dealing with a loved one with cognitive issues and in Alzheimer's disease. Ambiguous loss is a type of grief without closure or clear solution. Basically it leaves the griever (me and you) caught somewhere between hope and mourning. This term describes what I feel. This can trigger feeling of anxiety, grief, and guilt. I had a good cry for myself after discovering this term, yet felt better knowing my feelings are somewhat normal when dealing with this disease. I have been a caregiver for a few years now; my husband is on a maintenance program for Lecanemab with infusions once per month. He cannot be left alone for more than a couple of hours now. He barely uses his phone, has lost his executive function to complete tasks. So, like you, I take care of everything in the household, make all decisions for our lives with limited input from my spouse. Of course, I miss my previous life and feel lonely quite a bit. So I schedule things to do together. Small dinners with close friends, a concert in a small local venue, and walks by the ocean. I need my alone time and have begun asking family to stay one night so I can get away. My first time away was two weeks ago. I came home a new person with my sense of humor intact again. I wonder what will happen as he progresses? I am accepting his diagnosis and shifting my focus to not "fixing" him but adapting to my new reality-easier said that done. @IndianaScott What a great idea to write letters to yourself and others. It reminds me of a book I read recently "The Correspondent". Thanks everyone for sharing your fears, hopes and dreams. Karla @kjc48 Get the hairpiece! Thanks everyone and hugs from Cape Cod.

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@moea Cape Cod. My husband and I moved from Chatham. I used to run one of the real estate offices there! We're in florida now. Yes, get the hairpiece. I got the wig, but I'm having a tough time. Again, pales in comparison to what we're dealing with daily with delayed thinking, memory loss, sequencing issues, and the load on every caregiver. I feel your pain, and sadness over a life gone by. And I'm glad you can get out, go eat some clam chowder, however lobster rolls for $60.00. OMG. just saw that on TV. Thanks for the support, to my fellow Cape Codder. My husband caught a 900 pound tuna on cape cod waters, prior to his MCI. Best, Karla

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@kjc48
Hi Karla! My name is Karla too. We have more than our names in common. My husband has PD and dementia. His physical abilities have leveled off. His biggest affliction is Sundowning. He asks a thousand questions and gets angry if I don't give him what he thinks is the correct answer. He is hateful. This is not my husband of 52 years. The next day he remembers none of it. But I do and it is hard to get past day after day. I give every effort to be kind because I know it isn't his fault. If he could change it, he would. All I can say is hang in there. I will pray for comfort and peace for you. Karla

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@timber2026 Hi , Karla. It's Karla. I'm sorry your husband is angry and hateful. I'm not dealing with that as much. Mine gets flustered, gets irritable, and then it's over. What's in this disease that causes that much of a radical shift. It's all so sad, and difficult. I will pray for your comfort too, and every caregiver in the universe dealing with this. Best, Karla

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