Long Term PAC and PVC Suffer. Need your support and guidance

It is a waste of money to buy Ubiquinone vs Ubiquinol. Ubiquinone is not bio available when a person is older than their 40s. Saving a few bucks on an item that is not absorbed is just a waste. I take 800 mg ubiquinol a day. Japanese researchers looked into very high doses of ubiquinol (4K mg/day) and found it useful for heart failure. I gave my 7 year old 40# dog 200 mg a day to cure her heart murmur. Look at additives in your supplements. Qunol uses an emulsifier called polysorbate 80 which is a neurotoxin. Blue bonnet uses an emulsifier called carrageen with destroys healthy naturally occurring probiotic called akkermansia muciniphila.
Magnesium citrate is used to helped the bowels. Magnesium taurate is used for heart issues. There are I think 7 or 8 different kinds of magnesium.
"Supplemental ubiquinol in patients with advanced congestive heart failure". https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19096107/
Abstract

Patients with CHF, NYHA class IV, often fail to achieve adequate plasma CoQ10 levels on supplemental ubiquinone at dosages up to 900 mg/day. These patients often have plasma total CoQ10 levels of less than 2.5 microg/ml and have limited clinical improvement. It is postulated that the intestinal edema in these critically ill patients may impair CoQ10 absorption. We identified seven patients with advanced CHF (mean EF 22%) with sub-therapeutic plasma CoQ10 levels with mean level of 1.6 microg/ml on an average dose of 450 mg of ubiquinone daily (150-600 mg/day). All seven of these patients were changed to an average of 580 mg/day of ubiquinol (450-900 mg/day) with follow-up plasma CoQ10 levels, clinical status, and EF measurements by echocardiography. Mean plasma CoQ10 levels increased from 1.6 microg/ml (0.9-2.0 microg/ml) up to 6.5 microg/ml (2.6-9.3 microg/ml). Mean EF improved from 22% (10-35%) up to 39% (10-60%) and clinical improvement has been remarkable with NYHA class improving from a mean of IV to a mean of II (I to III). Ubiquinol has dramatically improved absorption in patients with severe heart failure and the improvement in plasma CoQ10 levels is correlated with both clinical improvement and improvement in measurement of left ventricular function.

Hello JC76.
I had a stress echo about 4 years ago...all was perfectly normal. I have been told many times that stress will increase PVCs and PACs. I have found that exercise does little to reduce my extra beats. I get scared when I have several in a row and it happens for an hour or so. I have been told that this is not Afib, but just a run of PACs or PVCs.
Thank you!
RR

My cardiologist recently told me that stress really isn’t related to pvc’s. Omg … who do you believe! When my stress level was high that was when they started. Now that the stress is decreased, so did the pvc’s!

Did you go for a sleep study? I was referred by the cardiologist. Awaiting results.

rr1967
We all need to find something that helps reduce stress. For me that is exercise. For others like you it probably is something else that you enjoy. Brining down the stress level is going to help. My EP, HF, and PCP all tell me to exercise not only because it reduces my stress but helps with heart failure and keeping me fit.

Just try to find something you like to do and enjoy it.

@brendas1954 I think your experience with your PVCs answers your question.

My HF, EP, PCP all say to reduce stress as will affect your PACs and PVCs. Those are Mayo Jacksonville and my EP is world reknown EP who gives seminars to others along with writing several books. He is now involved with extensive research.

Stress more PVCs less strss less PVCs. Exactly what happens to me!

Stress matters significantly - I believe stress can kill. I had a doctor tell me as well that stress doesn't play that big of a part. When I get stressed, my blood pressure goes through the roof - I tend to be an axious person by nature and stress definitely matters!

I'm not able to attach a link, but there is an article from medical news today that confirms stress management is part of taking care of our heart disease. I have taken up doodle art - it's mindless and empties my brain of worry, which calms me down. I also exercise and make a point of eating healthfullyl.

Sometimes but not always . Woman’s hormones play a huge role in PVC’s . Whether on period or pregnancy. Mine went up by 1000’s sorting those times .
Also now at 62 I’ve had horrendous gastric issues that kick up mine . Gastro Cardiac Syndrome. I do take Heart ♥️ Calm Supplements from Vital Biologics for years when it gets bad . Three diff magnesium w Q-10 and potassium. Google it .
It works well .

Several posters have mentioned the heart calm. I did research it and the ingredients are the ones that are rcommended for helping with PACs and PVCs.

@rozy288 I take all these supplements separately already with exception of potassium. I wanted to take it but my EP stated I was at the high end of normal on postassium per my blood test and recommended I not take more. For me the one supplment that seems to have affected my PACs and PVCs is magnesium. And that supplement recommendation came from my Mayo EP.

Regarding the Co-Q-10. You will see a lot of discussion on types of Co-Q-10. Many researches including supplement companies show that Co-Q-10 is hard for body to absorb unlike Ubiquinol (spell) which is a higher more absorbent form of Co-Q-10. It is more expensive though but I take both.

The only confusion I have on magnesium is my Mayo EP recommended Citrate type and I see some posters saying a a different type is better for PVCs and PACs. I am going to ask my EP their opinion. My citrate version seeems to be working but this is me and we are all different.

Good luck, I am lucky I don't have gastric issues but my wife does so and it affects her quality of life drastically.

I made several posts regarding the mental health side of treatments and stress just as important to patient as physical. I think sometimes medical doctors only look at medical side and not mental health but both affect each other and success of treatments.

I am lucky to be at Mayo Jacksonville where my psychiatric PA works very closely with my cardiologist, heart failure, and EP specialists to address and treat mental health issues as well as physical as both affect each other. I see her every 6 months but is available via portal and phone any time I need to address an issue or need assistance.