Incisional hernia after transplant: Anyone else?

Posted by btwest6 @btwest6, Dec 26, 2020

Would be interested to hear others experience with incisional hernia after liver transplant. Thank you.

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Thank u so much.I will send off an email to my Dr. And hope she orders the medicine…….cause I am going out of my mind

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@athenalee

I’ve had oral ulcers for three months, nystatin helped a little, but they come back worse. I’ve started rinsing with warm salt water and swishing a few drops of tea tree oil in a little water (don’t use full strength). It seems to be helping so far. I hope you find relief soon!

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Thank you for the info.I will try it…I will try anything…

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@rosemarya

@jackie421blfdgurl, I am so-o-o sorry to her of this miserable condition that you are experiencing.
I am a patient like you, and I take Tacrolimus as one of my immunosuppressant medications. When my tacrolimus doses are changed it is in small increments. And I have to repeat my labs in order to monitor the effectiveness of the change.

Is there a reason, that you know of for the big change in Tacrolimus doses?
According to your words, "Out of my Mind", I can only try to imagine your misery. I highly suggest that you contact with the doctor or pharmacist about what you are experiencing? Does that sound like something you can do?
Oh – and also mention the cold sores. You might need a prescription medication if there is any infection involved.

Will you let me know if you get an answer or any relief?
Hugs,

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Hello…as always thank you for responding
I have heard from two comments and
One mentioned medicine called oracorte,
Another said warm salt water n tea tree oil
3 drops, gargle…my blood is monitored
Every Monday if my levels are off they adjust the tacrolimus and zotress. I will
Be weaned off the tacrolimus very soon due to my upcoming surgery in June.

Have a great day and thank you

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@terry14

Hi, I've been reading on this site for several months and have learned a lot, but have not commented before. I wanted to pass this on because it helped me tremendously and I sympathize with anyone who suffers with painful sores.

I developed mouth sores on my lower gum and the underside of my tongue 4 months post transplant. They are extremely uncomfortable and make it difficult to eat and sleep. The doctor advised me that mouth sores can be a side effect of both Sirolimus and Mycophenolate that I'm on and ordered Oracorte 0.1% (the tube says Triamcinolone Acetonide Dental Paste USP, 0.1%). It is a thick ointment that you dab directly onto the sores. Seems to have an analgesic effect once applied as well. Clears the sores up within a few days. Now at the first sign of a sore developing, I apply the ointment and it clears up right away.

The doctor said they're not cold sores because cold sores don't develop in the mouth, they develop on the lips or other mucous membranes. Cold sores are a form of herpes and require an antiviral like Zovirax cream/ointment or oral medication. I have a history of cold sores going back many years and surprisingly haven't developed any since being on immunosuppressants. I do have a tube of Zovirax on hand since I can recognize a cold sore if I get one and will treat accordingly.

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You’re awesome! Can’t believe my doctors never mentioned this. Thank you!

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@jackie421blfdgurl

Thanks for your note. Surgery is set for
June 7th.but right now I am dealing with
Horrible painful cold sores/blisters on my
Bottom lip and some on my tongue, can't
Talk or eat drink thru a straw on side of my mouth. Put Vaseline on lip,mixed with
Ambesol, and ice cubes.tyleno. Nothing helps! H E L P…Dr. is aware.My tacrolimus
Has been dropped from 14 1mg pills a day
To 8 pills a day 4 and 4. OUT OF MY mind
Thanks…jackie

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Jackie, I meant to ask you about your upcoming incisional hernia repair and got sidetracked with mouth ulcers and forgot. I also have hernia (s) that need to be repaired. They wait at least 6 months post transplant for any nonemergency major surgeries and it was 6 months on April 15th that I was blessed with the gift of life!

I recently had an ultrasound done and it shows an epigastric hernia, as well as an umbilical one, and possibly one on the right side of my abdomen near the incision line. The abdominal hernia diagnosis was not conclusive with the ultrasound imaging, but there is a lot of bulging on that side so it's likely. I have been referred to a general surgeon and he ordered a CT scan (April 30th) and I'll see him on May 13th. I haven't actually seen the surgeon to have the opportunity to ask questions. My transplant team doctors refer me back to him because it's not their specialty, which is fair.

Do you know which type of surgery you'll be having? I researched and it said there are three types: open hernia repair, laparoscopic hernia repair and robotic hernia repair. Also, will you have to be hospitalized, or will it be a day surgery? I dread the thought of being hospitalized again, but if it requires admission to the hospital I hope I will be in and out ASAP. At any rate, I assume it will be a lot easier than transplant surgery!

Also, curious about your immunosuppressant meds with your upcoming surgery. Do you know if they'll change your medications before surgery? I'm on MMF (1000 mg twice a day) and Sirolimus (2 mg once a day). No longer on Prednisone. Apparently Sirolimus can cause problems with wound healing which may have contributed to the hernias (Tacrolimos caused severe neurotoxicity) so I'm wondering if they'll change anything. I'm sure it's all individually based at the discretion of our expert teams, but I'm still curious about others experiences. Thanks, Jackie or anyone else who has had a hernia repair post transplant and would like to answer my questions or offer advice! Sorry for writing a book, I tried to condense it but I can see t's still really long 🙂

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@athenalee

You’re awesome! Can’t believe my doctors never mentioned this. Thank you!

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You're welcome! I'm glad I was able to offer sound advise about this after experiencing the same thing. I hope it works for you as well as it did for me.

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@terry14

Jackie, I meant to ask you about your upcoming incisional hernia repair and got sidetracked with mouth ulcers and forgot. I also have hernia (s) that need to be repaired. They wait at least 6 months post transplant for any nonemergency major surgeries and it was 6 months on April 15th that I was blessed with the gift of life!

I recently had an ultrasound done and it shows an epigastric hernia, as well as an umbilical one, and possibly one on the right side of my abdomen near the incision line. The abdominal hernia diagnosis was not conclusive with the ultrasound imaging, but there is a lot of bulging on that side so it's likely. I have been referred to a general surgeon and he ordered a CT scan (April 30th) and I'll see him on May 13th. I haven't actually seen the surgeon to have the opportunity to ask questions. My transplant team doctors refer me back to him because it's not their specialty, which is fair.

Do you know which type of surgery you'll be having? I researched and it said there are three types: open hernia repair, laparoscopic hernia repair and robotic hernia repair. Also, will you have to be hospitalized, or will it be a day surgery? I dread the thought of being hospitalized again, but if it requires admission to the hospital I hope I will be in and out ASAP. At any rate, I assume it will be a lot easier than transplant surgery!

Also, curious about your immunosuppressant meds with your upcoming surgery. Do you know if they'll change your medications before surgery? I'm on MMF (1000 mg twice a day) and Sirolimus (2 mg once a day). No longer on Prednisone. Apparently Sirolimus can cause problems with wound healing which may have contributed to the hernias (Tacrolimos caused severe neurotoxicity) so I'm wondering if they'll change anything. I'm sure it's all individually based at the discretion of our expert teams, but I'm still curious about others experiences. Thanks, Jackie or anyone else who has had a hernia repair post transplant and would like to answer my questions or offer advice! Sorry for writing a book, I tried to condense it but I can see t's still really long 🙂

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Thank you for your thoughts. Went to see my dr. My MRI and CT scan are scheduled for May 7th. Surgery set for June 7th. I wear a girdle like Wrap around my middle when I am up, it helps. I too have developed soars in my mouth, I have not eaten in 2 weeks. Lost additional 11 lbs. I drink breakfast protein drink in am and Three more high protein ensure drinks. Is not comfortable drinking anything but water.. dr. Took two swabs of my mouth. One came back negative for herpies virus. Waiting for second test. Or it could b the medicine. Dr. planned on stopping my tacrolimus 2 weeks before surgery. I know I am very very fortunate for having a new liver. But since surgery 10/20/20 I feel like crap every day, now dealing with these stupid blisters. Just want to Get back to my self. Get a part time job, do some volunteer work and try to be a good helpful citizen

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@jackie421blfdgurl

Thank you for your thoughts. Went to see my dr. My MRI and CT scan are scheduled for May 7th. Surgery set for June 7th. I wear a girdle like Wrap around my middle when I am up, it helps. I too have developed soars in my mouth, I have not eaten in 2 weeks. Lost additional 11 lbs. I drink breakfast protein drink in am and Three more high protein ensure drinks. Is not comfortable drinking anything but water.. dr. Took two swabs of my mouth. One came back negative for herpies virus. Waiting for second test. Or it could b the medicine. Dr. planned on stopping my tacrolimus 2 weeks before surgery. I know I am very very fortunate for having a new liver. But since surgery 10/20/20 I feel like crap every day, now dealing with these stupid blisters. Just want to Get back to my self. Get a part time job, do some volunteer work and try to be a good helpful citizen

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Jackie, are you already taking part in this discussion?
– Liver transplant support group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/liver-support-group/

Several members like @gaylea1 @parmcat @contentandwell and others talk about the road to recovery and getting back to one's (new) self. It is hard to find patience as a patient. Courage.

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@jackie421blfdgurl

Thank you for your thoughts. Went to see my dr. My MRI and CT scan are scheduled for May 7th. Surgery set for June 7th. I wear a girdle like Wrap around my middle when I am up, it helps. I too have developed soars in my mouth, I have not eaten in 2 weeks. Lost additional 11 lbs. I drink breakfast protein drink in am and Three more high protein ensure drinks. Is not comfortable drinking anything but water.. dr. Took two swabs of my mouth. One came back negative for herpies virus. Waiting for second test. Or it could b the medicine. Dr. planned on stopping my tacrolimus 2 weeks before surgery. I know I am very very fortunate for having a new liver. But since surgery 10/20/20 I feel like crap every day, now dealing with these stupid blisters. Just want to Get back to my self. Get a part time job, do some volunteer work and try to be a good helpful citizen

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Sorry to hear that you are still suffering with the mouth sores. They are really painful and I found they interfered with my sleep and eating as well. As I mentioned earlier, Oracorte ointment was a godsend for me.

I hope your hernia repair surgery goes well and you start to feel like you have your life back. It sounds like you've been through a lot in your recovery but it will get better 🙂

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@colleenyoung

Jackie, are you already taking part in this discussion?
– Liver transplant support group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/liver-support-group/

Several members like @gaylea1 @parmcat @contentandwell and others talk about the road to recovery and getting back to one's (new) self. It is hard to find patience as a patient. Courage.

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Yes I am, at least I hope so.Any support the members can throw my way or
Suggestions is very appreciated

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