HypoThyroid and depression

Posted by pianohands123 @pianohands123, May 13, 2020

Hello, I have hypothyroidism and have been on medication for 15 years. I have a very healthy life style but have a full time job and 2 immediate family members that are living with mental illness. In the past years, I have noticed my energy levels reduced, and bouts of anxiety and depression that are very familiar to symptoms that lead to my diagnosis. I have tried antidepressants in the past, bit want to know if TMS would be an option for me instead of oral medicine. I have insurance and access locally to this treatment.

@dorisena

I have fought ecxema all my life, since birth, but not much anymore since I have learned how to keep it gone. They still don't know what causes it and some creams don't help when the dermatologist recommends them. My palms itch but I see nothing. My face itches at times but I have always had dry skin.
I don't know if it has anything to do with diabetes because I had it at birth. Diet is associated with rashes in some cases. Look there. The last cream I had prescribed came from a new doctor who looked into the matter because it was my doctor's day off. The cream helped some. I try to go to the doctor on my doctor's day off now. I can't get an appointment anyway, so I avoid them. Read on the web. Sometimes the nutrition advice helps. Sometimes I use only plain olive oil on my skin. It made Cleopatra have better skin, I read. Avoid stress.
Actually, quit stress. I remember closing down my kitchen, leaving a note and going to my other little farm house overnight. I would get a phone call asking if I was coming home to cook dinner, and I replied "I don't know." That usually changed the attitude for a while and I had better cooperation. I finally learned to put my foot down in middle age and got some relief from the stress. Now I have none at all as a widow but it is still a lot of work. Dorisena

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This is loaks. Does it say that somewhere? Anyway have you thought about CBD creams? I have skin that makes me crazy. Crazy to the point of wearing my undies inside out so the seam doesn't touch me. I can write for hours. Anyway, I brought it up 100 times and nothing shows to a Dr. I saw a dermatologist two years ago and brought it upon to her. I had symptoms that her daughter had so she listened to me!! She called it sensory processing disorder. She told me to Google it. Out of the symptoms I had all but 4. She took her daughter across the US trying to figure it out.. when i get Medicare (common theme) I'm supposed to go see someone about dealing with it. My skin hurts at times and feels like it's on fire. Clothes are my enemy. We bought a house in S. Arizona so I don't have to wear too many clothes in the winter. It's a strange disease but I might be too.
But, since I've been dealing with the diabetes I think it's better. I use Vanicream which comes in a tub. It's nice on your skin and doesn't feel greasy. If you go to Mayo they sell it and they sell shampoo of that brand. Walmart has it too. Leslee

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@loaks

This is loaks. Does it say that somewhere? Anyway have you thought about CBD creams? I have skin that makes me crazy. Crazy to the point of wearing my undies inside out so the seam doesn't touch me. I can write for hours. Anyway, I brought it up 100 times and nothing shows to a Dr. I saw a dermatologist two years ago and brought it upon to her. I had symptoms that her daughter had so she listened to me!! She called it sensory processing disorder. She told me to Google it. Out of the symptoms I had all but 4. She took her daughter across the US trying to figure it out.. when i get Medicare (common theme) I'm supposed to go see someone about dealing with it. My skin hurts at times and feels like it's on fire. Clothes are my enemy. We bought a house in S. Arizona so I don't have to wear too many clothes in the winter. It's a strange disease but I might be too.
But, since I've been dealing with the diabetes I think it's better. I use Vanicream which comes in a tub. It's nice on your skin and doesn't feel greasy. If you go to Mayo they sell it and they sell shampoo of that brand. Walmart has it too. Leslee

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I have had so many bad results with pills, creams, treatments, that I automatically would reject something like CBD creams because if it comes from a plant, it is suspect to me. I read a book full of Oriental medicine and was completely overwhelmed, but the point I took from the book is that dosage varies in plants, so you need to be careful how much you try. I also studied food safety in college and know that there is no such thing as a completely safe product. The government has established safe levels for many items, and that is the best they can do at this time. Did you know that peanuts have a naturally occurring carcinogen in them that is tested for safety levels before the peanuts are made into peanut butter? I will eat plain peanut butter made in America because we have the best food safety rules in the world. But we don't find everything. I am eating from my garden already as I planted early and survived a freeze. I also understand desensitization and have improved my ability to pull weeds and not have a reaction, over the years, except for poison ivy, of course.
Doctors have not been that helpful in solving my skin and rash problems which I share with my siblings and children. They outgrew most of their rashes but are sensitive to bee stings. I avoid creams and medicines if I can. Olive oil is my remedy for dry skin along with a moisturizer every day. I put moisturizer on my dry feet, put on socks before bedtime. It is the little things that help the most. Dorisena

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@dorisena I so agree with you on the "little things" meaning the most. As I have gotten older (69) I now have allergies that I did not have as a child. Body chemistry can change with age (not the one for poison ivy). I eat as cleanly as I can and with shortages it has been a challenge. I once had a huge garden where everything was grown organically. I now live in a small apartment and not enough sun for even container growing of veggies. I buy from the organic section and since I only go to the grocery once every 2 weeks now I have started freezing my own veggies and fruit. Works for me. I miss playing in the dirt 🙁
I also have hypothyroidism and depression. I even became allergic to the synthetic and had a dickens of a time getting a doctor to believe me. My hyperthyroidism was fried with radioactive iodine at the age of 30. Doctors and their numbers!!!! They have a hard time understanding one size does not fit all.

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@parus

@dorisena I so agree with you on the "little things" meaning the most. As I have gotten older (69) I now have allergies that I did not have as a child. Body chemistry can change with age (not the one for poison ivy). I eat as cleanly as I can and with shortages it has been a challenge. I once had a huge garden where everything was grown organically. I now live in a small apartment and not enough sun for even container growing of veggies. I buy from the organic section and since I only go to the grocery once every 2 weeks now I have started freezing my own veggies and fruit. Works for me. I miss playing in the dirt 🙁
I also have hypothyroidism and depression. I even became allergic to the synthetic and had a dickens of a time getting a doctor to believe me. My hyperthyroidism was fried with radioactive iodine at the age of 30. Doctors and their numbers!!!! They have a hard time understanding one size does not fit all.

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What has helped my depression, which is gone from my life now, is eating lots of fresh vegetables, but I noticed years ago if I didn't eat many vegetables, I would be cranky. I have pretty much walked away from toxic people and situations and people who think conformity is good for everyone. Not for me! I am free to do projects that make me happy, and right now it is the garden since I am not going to church right now and doing any music there. Working hard makes me feel better, but I am limited to a couple of hours, with sitting down often.
I am surprised that this isolation life is not making me depressed because I can communicate on the computer, so you are a benefit to my life, and I appreciated the opportunity to share. I don't take pills for depression and do my own therapy as I reason out issues logically. I really do love people who are nice and honest with me and that means a lot. I fell very blessed because I have no debt or worries how to live so long as I can still grow some food. That is my life on the farm, which never made me rich, however.
Dorisena

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@dorisena I have been so impressed with how your are now with your life . Sounds like you are doing very well. Congrats. I am a introvert so this isolation does'nt bother me

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@lioness

@dorisena I have been so impressed with how your are now with your life . Sounds like you are doing very well. Congrats. I am a introvert so this isolation does'nt bother me

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I don't consider you an introvert, Lioness, because your reach out to the rest of us and I really appreciate that. Dorisena

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@pianohands123
This is GailBL, and I'm a Volunteer Mentor. I wanted to let you and others know that I am also hypothyroid challenged. I know to take my Levothyroxine in the morning 30 minutes before eating or drinking anything. I usually awaken early around 4 am to use the bathroom and take my thyroid medication. Yesterday I did my usual routine, but my allergies were very bad, and I kept clearing my throat from post nasal drip. Being half asleep, I used a Halls sugar free lozenge to calm my throat. However, I hadn't waited for the half hour time since taking my Levothyroxine.

All day yesterday I had very low energy and as the day wore on, I felt very depressed. It's unusual for me to be so depressed because I am taking Citalopram for depression. I tried going for a walk and just didn't have the energy to walk farther than 1/3rd mile. I was concerned about what was going on with me. This morning when I took my thyroid medication, I remembered yesterday's experience. The lightbulb went on in my brain and I realized I was probably reacting to having too little thyroid hormone in my system yesterday. I know from my last blood tests that I have been running low even with medication, so it may be time for a change up.

I wanted to let you know that experience as that may be happening with you. I don't know when your thyroid hormones were last checked, but that may be part of why you're feeling the way you are. I also think the entire Pandemic Emergency and our political system can be depressing. I'm an extrovert and I'm struggling to find things to do that allow me to "get out there" without actually getting out there. At 71, with T2 diabetes, controlled high blood pressure and having had Acute Respiratory Syndrome in 2004 that hospitalized me, I am very aware of the dangers the COVID19 holds for me as well as for my husband and our daughter with whom we live. I hope you're feeling better now. I'm feeling my usual self today.

Would you be willing to give me an update on how you're doing and what you've done to help you?

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To all of you wonderful ladies….Thank You! All the sharing we do on this list has helped me so much. Physically and mentally. I was pretty depressed, and then I found this list. You have given me so many good ideas that I will be forever grateful. Marie

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@mummy43

Eczema has been ruled out. Fortunately it's only in my eyebrows and forehead, but thanks for the information. I would still like to know the name of the skincare she uses.

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@mummy43 I just checked with my niece. It's Kiehl's facial cream. It was called facial balm but that product is apparently discontinued so now it's the Ultra Facial Cream.
She also uses their face wash. She tried other drugstore products that are considered to be good for eczema but none worked as well as this.
The only Kiehl's product that I personally have used is the eye de-puffer and it did nothing, I brought it back, but apparently this has helped my niece's daughter a lot. She's a pre-teen.
JK

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Thanks, JK. I was terribly allergic to lanolin when I was young, but am doing better now. I was also allergic to lard and broke out when I made pies.
I haven't made a pie in a few years now, but boy, did I love apple pies. And the apples were free. My granddaughter might want to try the products.
Actually, I was allergic to about anything when I was young. I have toughened up in my old age. Dorisena

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@gailb

@pianohands123
This is GailBL, and I'm a Volunteer Mentor. I wanted to let you and others know that I am also hypothyroid challenged. I know to take my Levothyroxine in the morning 30 minutes before eating or drinking anything. I usually awaken early around 4 am to use the bathroom and take my thyroid medication. Yesterday I did my usual routine, but my allergies were very bad, and I kept clearing my throat from post nasal drip. Being half asleep, I used a Halls sugar free lozenge to calm my throat. However, I hadn't waited for the half hour time since taking my Levothyroxine.

All day yesterday I had very low energy and as the day wore on, I felt very depressed. It's unusual for me to be so depressed because I am taking Citalopram for depression. I tried going for a walk and just didn't have the energy to walk farther than 1/3rd mile. I was concerned about what was going on with me. This morning when I took my thyroid medication, I remembered yesterday's experience. The lightbulb went on in my brain and I realized I was probably reacting to having too little thyroid hormone in my system yesterday. I know from my last blood tests that I have been running low even with medication, so it may be time for a change up.

I wanted to let you know that experience as that may be happening with you. I don't know when your thyroid hormones were last checked, but that may be part of why you're feeling the way you are. I also think the entire Pandemic Emergency and our political system can be depressing. I'm an extrovert and I'm struggling to find things to do that allow me to "get out there" without actually getting out there. At 71, with T2 diabetes, controlled high blood pressure and having had Acute Respiratory Syndrome in 2004 that hospitalized me, I am very aware of the dangers the COVID19 holds for me as well as for my husband and our daughter with whom we live. I hope you're feeling better now. I'm feeling my usual self today.

Would you be willing to give me an update on how you're doing and what you've done to help you?

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@gailb Along with not eating for 30 minutes, coffee has been observed to interfere within an hour of taking levothyroxine.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18341376
JK

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@contentandwell

Oh, I don't drink anything until I can eat after taking the pill, but I didn't know about waiting for an hour before drinking coffee. Thanks for the information. Since I usually take it around 4 am, I think it's OK, but there are times when I wake up late. I'll pay attention.

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