Husband diagnosed MCI: He is in denial and personality is changing

Posted by civvy @civvy, Mar 7 8:26pm

Spouse diagnosed with MCI and he is in denial that there is any problem. In spite of his forgetting appointments and getting lost
He has had major changes in his personality and is often irritable and hostile.

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@joyh1567

My situation is so so similar. My husband was recently diagnosed with MCI. He has outbursts also over very minor things too like leaving a door open too long or not putting something back 'in its place' when the place has changed 5x in the last week. Ugh, so difficult! I get frustrated and have to continue to remind myself his brain isnt working correctly. Sometimes its hard tho to walk away and let it go. I want to state my case or explain myself but in the end, it really doesn't matter. My trick has been to gently change the subject. If that doesn't work, I put in my headphones and move to a different room...walk away. The doctor told him today he has to stay socially and physically active. Ive seen that help him when he's in a mood. Hoping we can find new activities that will help!! Im so glad I found this site and group!! It has helped to know I'm not alone!

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I’m so sorry you are experiencing this with your husband. Sounds very similar to what I’m going through with my husband with Parkinson’s and MCI and it feels like flat out dementia. I use many of the same coping strategies. So many medications and questions about side effects and interactions. We’ve added Psychiatrist to his list of docs. Hopefully between neurologist and psychiatrist some improvement with meds. I don’t think he takes them all anyway. I set them up in pill boxes but he freaks out if I hover over him about it. Lots of angry outbursts. I went to a healing service at our church tonight and got prayed over for me, him and us. Refreshing and I highly recommend. 😊👍😊

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@rjchambliss5

I’m so sorry you are experiencing this with your husband. Sounds very similar to what I’m going through with my husband with Parkinson’s and MCI and it feels like flat out dementia. I use many of the same coping strategies. So many medications and questions about side effects and interactions. We’ve added Psychiatrist to his list of docs. Hopefully between neurologist and psychiatrist some improvement with meds. I don’t think he takes them all anyway. I set them up in pill boxes but he freaks out if I hover over him about it. Lots of angry outbursts. I went to a healing service at our church tonight and got prayed over for me, him and us. Refreshing and I highly recommend. 😊👍😊

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This is so tough. Glad to hear the healing service helped. It is our connections with others, including this Mayo platform, that helps ease the way

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Recently, I’ve been thinking about finding a home care advocate for my wife. Such a person could help in situations like ours, where a loved-one with cognitive impairment is tended by a mate, sib, or offspring. Neurologists have called her ailment moderate cognitive impairment, which is kind of a non-diagnosis—a wait and see. The onset has been slow. I can, perhaps, trace behavioral changes back 20 years; certainly I began to see erratic behavior 10 years ago, but I remember no solid date when change just happened. Early on, more than reacting to clearly definable actions, I felt increasingly anxious as she became less predictable. I eventually had to acknowledge that something wasn’t right.
Caregiving isn’t a role you choose. You gradually become watchful, more nervous and, ultimately, more judgmental. You eventually acknowledge that mental impairment exists and that it is getting worse. You seek professional advice. On the whole, it doesn’t help. In most cases, you are told that no cure exists; the malady will only get worse. And the person, now a patient, is placed on behavior-modifying medicines and is monitored periodically by a specialist. There are variations on this theme, but unless you are emotionally ready and financially able to put the person into a care facility, you become the caregiver. You begin to watch and regulate your loved-one’s behavior—a job for which you have no qualifications, experience, nor, for that matter, legal status.
But caregiver you must be--for the welfare of your unofficial ward, for your sake, for continued function of the household, and to protect your estate. You also become a reluctant disciplinarian. Caregiver becomes a misnomer. Guardian is a better term.
You monitor and interact with caregiver groups. You learn that you are not alone; that many others have assumed, willingly or not, the same hopeless, unending duty. You find a lot of sympathy but not much hope.
As one who has become an unofficial caregiver-cum-guardian, I often yearn for an expert to help me make decisions—an advocate for my wife, if you please. Being a guardian has made me a bad guy. She needs someone on her side. For example, one of the biggest decisions any of us face in protecting our ward, and our estate, regards driving. For my wife, loss of driving privilege was the worst form of restraint that could happen. She loved to get in a car and just go. But her cognitive impairment became more marked--loss of short-term memory set in, along with aphasia, and general confusion in unfamiliar situations. She lost the ability to even buy gas at the pump. Kinetically, she continued to be an excellent driver and seemed to retain her geographic memory. With me sitting beside her, she made all the right moves, right up the day the Motor Vehicles Division refused to renew her driver’s license, because she could no longer fill out the application form and provide her name, age, address, and certainly not her medical history.
I was relieved. Friends and family members had been commenting on the wisdom of “letting” her drive, and, as caregiver, I was the one who would have to take her keys. I put it off as long as I could. I thought that the driver’s license people had saved me from blame, hence I didn’t anticipate becoming the enforcer—the household cop that says many times a day, “no, you can’t drive. You don’t have a license.” After nearly a year, she refuses to accept the loss of driving privilege, and the subject comes up every time we get in a car. And it is me, not the state, that won’t let her drive, license be damned. So as a caregiver, I became the bad guy.
Another major loss of independence involved handling money. I cancelled her bank card after she withdrew $300 cash and immediately left the money somewhere, never to be found. She still complains about having no money. She is with me 24 hours/day, so “shops” alongside me when we are in a store, but I have to monitor her purchases to assure that she doesn’t buy items we already own en masse, pick up wrong-sized clothing or, load the basket with items we just don’t need. Here, too, I became the cop. Many other examples exist.
We don’t live close to family. Her sibs and children are sympathetic and appreciative of my care; they also offer a lot of well-intended advice, implicitly or implied in the form of “should” and “shouldn’t.” Should is a word I’ve come to hate. In truth, I often wonder if I’m too restrictive--if I’ve become knee-jerk in my efforts to control--if my expectation of a continuing decline causes me to always anticipate the worst. There are days I’d like to have a counseling session with a pro. I’m not talking about a doctor. My experience with them, especially specialists, is that they aren’t much good at advising caregivers. They diagnose, monitor, and prescribe, not much else.
We live in a rural area with limited home care services which focus on physical, not mental, infirmities. Friends and neighbors help where they can, and online caregiver groups certainly provide encouragement. But there are days when I’d like to talk with someone who knows my wife’s history and who professionally advises an array of people; someone that can place her behavior and my responses in a broader perspective. I’d be happy if such a person would take my spouse’s side at times, because the need to be a watchful guardian has made me an adversary, and I’m afraid it’s becoming a habit.

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Your bad guy comment resonates. Because I am now the guardian I feel he doesn't see my as his wife anymore, so intimacy is gone. 🙁
We didn't sign up for this role, but need to deal. Hearing that other like you gave similar struggles helps a little; misery loves company.

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@judimahoney

Your bad guy comment resonates. Because I am now the guardian I feel he doesn't see my as his wife anymore, so intimacy is gone. 🙁
We didn't sign up for this role, but need to deal. Hearing that other like you gave similar struggles helps a little; misery loves company.

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Misery loves company only in the sense that it takes away the in incredible sense of loneliness that we spouses turned caregivers have to endure

Peace my friend!

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@harleyshaw

Recently, I’ve been thinking about finding a home care advocate for my wife. Such a person could help in situations like ours, where a loved-one with cognitive impairment is tended by a mate, sib, or offspring. Neurologists have called her ailment moderate cognitive impairment, which is kind of a non-diagnosis—a wait and see. The onset has been slow. I can, perhaps, trace behavioral changes back 20 years; certainly I began to see erratic behavior 10 years ago, but I remember no solid date when change just happened. Early on, more than reacting to clearly definable actions, I felt increasingly anxious as she became less predictable. I eventually had to acknowledge that something wasn’t right.
Caregiving isn’t a role you choose. You gradually become watchful, more nervous and, ultimately, more judgmental. You eventually acknowledge that mental impairment exists and that it is getting worse. You seek professional advice. On the whole, it doesn’t help. In most cases, you are told that no cure exists; the malady will only get worse. And the person, now a patient, is placed on behavior-modifying medicines and is monitored periodically by a specialist. There are variations on this theme, but unless you are emotionally ready and financially able to put the person into a care facility, you become the caregiver. You begin to watch and regulate your loved-one’s behavior—a job for which you have no qualifications, experience, nor, for that matter, legal status.
But caregiver you must be--for the welfare of your unofficial ward, for your sake, for continued function of the household, and to protect your estate. You also become a reluctant disciplinarian. Caregiver becomes a misnomer. Guardian is a better term.
You monitor and interact with caregiver groups. You learn that you are not alone; that many others have assumed, willingly or not, the same hopeless, unending duty. You find a lot of sympathy but not much hope.
As one who has become an unofficial caregiver-cum-guardian, I often yearn for an expert to help me make decisions—an advocate for my wife, if you please. Being a guardian has made me a bad guy. She needs someone on her side. For example, one of the biggest decisions any of us face in protecting our ward, and our estate, regards driving. For my wife, loss of driving privilege was the worst form of restraint that could happen. She loved to get in a car and just go. But her cognitive impairment became more marked--loss of short-term memory set in, along with aphasia, and general confusion in unfamiliar situations. She lost the ability to even buy gas at the pump. Kinetically, she continued to be an excellent driver and seemed to retain her geographic memory. With me sitting beside her, she made all the right moves, right up the day the Motor Vehicles Division refused to renew her driver’s license, because she could no longer fill out the application form and provide her name, age, address, and certainly not her medical history.
I was relieved. Friends and family members had been commenting on the wisdom of “letting” her drive, and, as caregiver, I was the one who would have to take her keys. I put it off as long as I could. I thought that the driver’s license people had saved me from blame, hence I didn’t anticipate becoming the enforcer—the household cop that says many times a day, “no, you can’t drive. You don’t have a license.” After nearly a year, she refuses to accept the loss of driving privilege, and the subject comes up every time we get in a car. And it is me, not the state, that won’t let her drive, license be damned. So as a caregiver, I became the bad guy.
Another major loss of independence involved handling money. I cancelled her bank card after she withdrew $300 cash and immediately left the money somewhere, never to be found. She still complains about having no money. She is with me 24 hours/day, so “shops” alongside me when we are in a store, but I have to monitor her purchases to assure that she doesn’t buy items we already own en masse, pick up wrong-sized clothing or, load the basket with items we just don’t need. Here, too, I became the cop. Many other examples exist.
We don’t live close to family. Her sibs and children are sympathetic and appreciative of my care; they also offer a lot of well-intended advice, implicitly or implied in the form of “should” and “shouldn’t.” Should is a word I’ve come to hate. In truth, I often wonder if I’m too restrictive--if I’ve become knee-jerk in my efforts to control--if my expectation of a continuing decline causes me to always anticipate the worst. There are days I’d like to have a counseling session with a pro. I’m not talking about a doctor. My experience with them, especially specialists, is that they aren’t much good at advising caregivers. They diagnose, monitor, and prescribe, not much else.
We live in a rural area with limited home care services which focus on physical, not mental, infirmities. Friends and neighbors help where they can, and online caregiver groups certainly provide encouragement. But there are days when I’d like to talk with someone who knows my wife’s history and who professionally advises an array of people; someone that can place her behavior and my responses in a broader perspective. I’d be happy if such a person would take my spouse’s side at times, because the need to be a watchful guardian has made me an adversary, and I’m afraid it’s becoming a habit.

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Thank you for sharing as I can certainly relate. You described being a “reluctant disciplinarian.” That is the truth! Be gentle with yourself 😊

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@harleyshaw

Recently, I’ve been thinking about finding a home care advocate for my wife. Such a person could help in situations like ours, where a loved-one with cognitive impairment is tended by a mate, sib, or offspring. Neurologists have called her ailment moderate cognitive impairment, which is kind of a non-diagnosis—a wait and see. The onset has been slow. I can, perhaps, trace behavioral changes back 20 years; certainly I began to see erratic behavior 10 years ago, but I remember no solid date when change just happened. Early on, more than reacting to clearly definable actions, I felt increasingly anxious as she became less predictable. I eventually had to acknowledge that something wasn’t right.
Caregiving isn’t a role you choose. You gradually become watchful, more nervous and, ultimately, more judgmental. You eventually acknowledge that mental impairment exists and that it is getting worse. You seek professional advice. On the whole, it doesn’t help. In most cases, you are told that no cure exists; the malady will only get worse. And the person, now a patient, is placed on behavior-modifying medicines and is monitored periodically by a specialist. There are variations on this theme, but unless you are emotionally ready and financially able to put the person into a care facility, you become the caregiver. You begin to watch and regulate your loved-one’s behavior—a job for which you have no qualifications, experience, nor, for that matter, legal status.
But caregiver you must be--for the welfare of your unofficial ward, for your sake, for continued function of the household, and to protect your estate. You also become a reluctant disciplinarian. Caregiver becomes a misnomer. Guardian is a better term.
You monitor and interact with caregiver groups. You learn that you are not alone; that many others have assumed, willingly or not, the same hopeless, unending duty. You find a lot of sympathy but not much hope.
As one who has become an unofficial caregiver-cum-guardian, I often yearn for an expert to help me make decisions—an advocate for my wife, if you please. Being a guardian has made me a bad guy. She needs someone on her side. For example, one of the biggest decisions any of us face in protecting our ward, and our estate, regards driving. For my wife, loss of driving privilege was the worst form of restraint that could happen. She loved to get in a car and just go. But her cognitive impairment became more marked--loss of short-term memory set in, along with aphasia, and general confusion in unfamiliar situations. She lost the ability to even buy gas at the pump. Kinetically, she continued to be an excellent driver and seemed to retain her geographic memory. With me sitting beside her, she made all the right moves, right up the day the Motor Vehicles Division refused to renew her driver’s license, because she could no longer fill out the application form and provide her name, age, address, and certainly not her medical history.
I was relieved. Friends and family members had been commenting on the wisdom of “letting” her drive, and, as caregiver, I was the one who would have to take her keys. I put it off as long as I could. I thought that the driver’s license people had saved me from blame, hence I didn’t anticipate becoming the enforcer—the household cop that says many times a day, “no, you can’t drive. You don’t have a license.” After nearly a year, she refuses to accept the loss of driving privilege, and the subject comes up every time we get in a car. And it is me, not the state, that won’t let her drive, license be damned. So as a caregiver, I became the bad guy.
Another major loss of independence involved handling money. I cancelled her bank card after she withdrew $300 cash and immediately left the money somewhere, never to be found. She still complains about having no money. She is with me 24 hours/day, so “shops” alongside me when we are in a store, but I have to monitor her purchases to assure that she doesn’t buy items we already own en masse, pick up wrong-sized clothing or, load the basket with items we just don’t need. Here, too, I became the cop. Many other examples exist.
We don’t live close to family. Her sibs and children are sympathetic and appreciative of my care; they also offer a lot of well-intended advice, implicitly or implied in the form of “should” and “shouldn’t.” Should is a word I’ve come to hate. In truth, I often wonder if I’m too restrictive--if I’ve become knee-jerk in my efforts to control--if my expectation of a continuing decline causes me to always anticipate the worst. There are days I’d like to have a counseling session with a pro. I’m not talking about a doctor. My experience with them, especially specialists, is that they aren’t much good at advising caregivers. They diagnose, monitor, and prescribe, not much else.
We live in a rural area with limited home care services which focus on physical, not mental, infirmities. Friends and neighbors help where they can, and online caregiver groups certainly provide encouragement. But there are days when I’d like to talk with someone who knows my wife’s history and who professionally advises an array of people; someone that can place her behavior and my responses in a broader perspective. I’d be happy if such a person would take my spouse’s side at times, because the need to be a watchful guardian has made me an adversary, and I’m afraid it’s becoming a habit.

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@harleyshaw I think the type of professional that you are looking was always called a geriatric care manager. But the name has changed as the job description has changed.
https://www.aginglifecare.org/Shared_Content/ALCA_Directory/ALCA_Find_an_Expert.aspx?hkey=6c3ced7c-b5f0-4d27-9d30-37734ab6cf49
These aging life experts are really great. We hired one in NYC for my husband’s aunt because we lived across the country. She hired caregivers and kept us informed of everything.
Does something like this sound like what you’re needing?

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That sounds very close. I've not located such a person in our rural region, but perhaps can find someone to work with online. I appreciate your reply. I'll certainly take a look at the directory.

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My cousin had to go into a memory care residence. She is younger than me, but she was doing all kinds of strange things, not paying bills, on every charity list, would take a month's worth of rx in a week, eat a week's groceries in a day (and get sick), she would call me 12 times in 1/2 hour to ask "what day is it?" She would unplug her phone, so I couldn't reach her, then she would say her phone wasn't working. I couldn't help her as I have my own medical issues and have no one to help me. Neurologist diagnosed her with dementia after many many tests. I've been a caregiver for mom, dad, uncle brother, I could use my own caregiver some days, but still plodding along. Wishing all caregivers peace and prayers.

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@civvy

This is so tough. Glad to hear the healing service helped. It is our connections with others, including this Mayo platform, that helps ease the way

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Thanks for your reply. Having your spouse begin to see you as a different person is hard.

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