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High Cholesterol: how do you control it?

Posted by doedoe13 @doedoe13, Jul 1, 2018

I have very unusual cholesterol scores. Both are high. My Doctor says not to worry because the good is high and outweighs the bad. Here are the numbers cholesterol is 270 LDL is. 164 HDL 70.6. Do I just not worry like my Doctor said? Any ideas?

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callalloo | @callalloo | Jun 18, 2022
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@hopeful33250

@johnbishop Hi John,

I'm just wondering if intermittent fasting has caused a lowering in your cholesterol numbers. Have the lipids been checked since you started the fasting program?

I do know that weight loss can be a factor in lowering lipids (as well as blood pressure and so many other things), so I'm guessing with the weight loss you've experienced from fasting that you've probably improved those numbers?

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I read that even fasting for 16-18 hours can break a vicious cycle of insulin resistance. If it's true, that's kind of amazing I think. And the medical establishment might be able to start some permanent changes in patients by educating about, and supporting, fasting therapies. For the cynics that point out that Big Pharma would hate and fight it, I'll anti with a thought that Big Insurance might love it tho'.

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callalloo | @callalloo | Jun 18, 2022
In reply to @callalloo "I read that even fasting for 16-18 hours can break a vicious cycle of insulin resistance...." + (show)
@callalloo

I read that even fasting for 16-18 hours can break a vicious cycle of insulin resistance. If it's true, that's kind of amazing I think. And the medical establishment might be able to start some permanent changes in patients by educating about, and supporting, fasting therapies. For the cynics that point out that Big Pharma would hate and fight it, I'll anti with a thought that Big Insurance might love it tho'.

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I should tweak my comment by suggesting that the fasting can 'interrupt" the insulin resistance vicious cycle. But any interruption could trigger a changed future for people who foresee a life of endless drugs otherwise.

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macto | @macto | Jun 19, 2022

I eat a serving of oatmeal a day to lower my cholesterol. My cholesterol was 284 and the oatmeal brought it down to 209. I cannot take statins. It does take some time to see numbers go down.

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John, Volunteer Mentor | @johnbishop | Jun 19, 2022
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@callalloo

I read that even fasting for 16-18 hours can break a vicious cycle of insulin resistance. If it's true, that's kind of amazing I think. And the medical establishment might be able to start some permanent changes in patients by educating about, and supporting, fasting therapies. For the cynics that point out that Big Pharma would hate and fight it, I'll anti with a thought that Big Insurance might love it tho'.

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@callalloo - I thought this video was really insightful with a little bit of humor on why we have so much obesity in this country and the part the food industry plays.

Dr. Jay Wortman - 'Undoing Atkins: A Cautionary Tale'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIegMp5cWBY

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sue225 | @sue225 | Jun 19, 2022
In reply to @jakedduck1 "@doedoe13 Doctors used to believe high HDL offset high LDL but recent studies show that’s not..." + (show)
@jakedduck1

@doedoe13
Doctors used to believe high HDL offset high LDL but recent studies show that’s not true. My last numbers were
Total 194
HDL. 68
LDL. 109
My doctor called and nearly went ballistic.
She told me she wanted those numbers down and to go on a low fat diet. I had been eating beef everyday to help increase my hemoglobin levels since I donate blood products twice a month which it did but shot my numbers up. I was advised to eat more fish. I manage to gag salmon down now and then but not enough to satisfy her. I switched to chicken so in July hopefully numbers will be better.
You should do everything possible to lower your numbers for your own good.
Take care
Jake

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Foods like tofu, lentils, beans, soy milk, eggplant, okra, oatmeal, barley, nut butters, almonds, walnuts (all nuts) have a cholesterol lowering effect.
I have high cholesterol. Could not tolerate statins. Was untreated until Repatha came along. Injection which I give myself 2x/week.

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callalloo | @callalloo | Jun 20, 2022
In reply to @johnbishop "@callalloo - I thought this video was really insightful with a little bit of humor on..." + (show)
@johnbishop

@callalloo - I thought this video was really insightful with a little bit of humor on why we have so much obesity in this country and the part the food industry plays.

Dr. Jay Wortman - 'Undoing Atkins: A Cautionary Tale'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIegMp5cWBY

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Thanks! I want to extend appreciation to you as very gentle motivator..

I'm feeling virtuous-ish as I made a promise to myself (and those self-to-self promises have a spotty track record, lol) to eat one large meal of just vegetables every day. Fruit being allowed as desert. I'm not fond of most cooked vegetables but have been drinking smoothies out of the stuff. I found that some chunks of apple or frozen mango make anything taste good.
My theory is that, I can at least partially crowd out* poorer food choices every day and aim for at least progress. The NutriBullet thing could probably puree a smal car so it's my best friend for tougher-fibered produce.
I dealt with breast cancer last fall (tiny and lumpectomy only) and read a ton of peer-reviewed studies found on Google Scholar and was alarmed at how much a role diet can play. But I mostly care that the smoothies are delicious and a fast meal.
*I've always liked Gresham's Law in economics and modified it to "good food drives out bad." But I really do just feel better knowing that, no matter what else I do that day, I ate one large intelligent meal.

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heria | @heria | Jun 20, 2022
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@macto

I eat a serving of oatmeal a day to lower my cholesterol. My cholesterol was 284 and the oatmeal brought it down to 209. I cannot take statins. It does take some time to see numbers go down.

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Good morning, I have high cholesterol also. My late husband also had his oatmeal every morning. I used to make a oatmeal pudding with eggs, milk, oatmeal.I put cinnamon , and microwave for 10-12 min. I wish you well on this journey of life.

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lioness | @lioness | Jun 20, 2022
In reply to @callalloo "Thanks! I want to extend appreciation to you as very gentle motivator.. I'm feeling virtuous-ish as..." + (show)
@callalloo

Thanks! I want to extend appreciation to you as very gentle motivator..

I'm feeling virtuous-ish as I made a promise to myself (and those self-to-self promises have a spotty track record, lol) to eat one large meal of just vegetables every day. Fruit being allowed as desert. I'm not fond of most cooked vegetables but have been drinking smoothies out of the stuff. I found that some chunks of apple or frozen mango make anything taste good.
My theory is that, I can at least partially crowd out* poorer food choices every day and aim for at least progress. The NutriBullet thing could probably puree a smal car so it's my best friend for tougher-fibered produce.
I dealt with breast cancer last fall (tiny and lumpectomy only) and read a ton of peer-reviewed studies found on Google Scholar and was alarmed at how much a role diet can play. But I mostly care that the smoothies are delicious and a fast meal.
*I've always liked Gresham's Law in economics and modified it to "good food drives out bad." But I really do just feel better knowing that, no matter what else I do that day, I ate one large intelligent meal.

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@callaloo I likewise do the smoothies with veggies and blueberries , banana usually. I but greens freeze them then add to smoothies .

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callalloo | @callalloo | Jun 20, 2022
In reply to @lioness "@callaloo I likewise do the smoothies with veggies and blueberries , banana usually. I but greens..." + (show)
@lioness

@callaloo I likewise do the smoothies with veggies and blueberries , banana usually. I but greens freeze them then add to smoothies .

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@lioness
I also add a clump of leftover oatmeal when making fruit-and-protein-powder breakfast smoothie. And cinnamon when I remember. This may be the only way I can eat breakfast consistently so it's a big help.

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