High Calcium Score

Posted by mcphee @mcphee, Dec 14, 2016

I have a calcium score of 1,950 which is extremely high which means I am at a very high risk for a cardiac event,heart attack,stroke or sudden death.
I take a statin and baby aspirin.
I have never been sick,have excellent cholesterol,low blood pressure and I am not overweight.
I have no other health problems and I have never been sick.
But I feel like a walking time bomb which has caused me a lot of stress.
I wonder how others with this condition feel emotionally?
I am 70 yrs old.

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@botexas

My score was 2400 and I continue to exercise 85 minutes of aggressive exercise every day. I scored 13 Mets on the treadmill. That is equivalent to a 25 year old and I am 75. The calcium score is just one benchmark in overall heart health. I believe exercise is key to better health but you need to discuss with your Doc before embarking on a strenuous exercise program. Good luck

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hi @botexas We are so similar. I've been kicking butt on stress tests for years; backpacked all over the western US, 100 mile ride, boxing and sure as heck don't look my age. But the dang calcium score has put the fear of God in me. Just got back from the gym and the interesting thing is that since I got that score last week I've been going MORE to the gym and working out harder. My doc seems to think that my lifetime of physical exercise has protected me.

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@nyartist

Hi – I found your post doing a Google search and our profiles are very similar. You posted back in 2016 so I wonder what you're up to now and how you're doing.

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@ nyartist Not sure who you are addressing in this post, but it might be me as in 2016 I went to Mayo in Minn, to have a parathyroidectomy. I had had a very hi Ca score for years and no one ever said anything about it until I moved into a retirement community, and then the Dr here mentioned it, but said not to go anything about it as at my age then 80 it was too risky. I asked around to find out what the risks were, and one person said I could lose m voice. Also I saw on the internet, that recommended finding a surgeon that does at least 3 a week successfully. So without further ado, I flew out to Mayo and was matched with a surgeon there. When I asked her how many she had done, I forget whether it was 45,000, or 4,500, but she said that is all she does, 3 days a week.

After a week of testing, the surgery was done one day and the next day I flew back to PA. And yes, I can still talk, though maybe there were some people that were disappointed.!!!!!!!!!!! @ gailfaith

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@nyartist

I've been an athlete all my life and have been exercising vigorously for over 55 years (I'm 74) my HDL has been very good, I always surpassed the benchmarks for my age in all the stress tests I've taken over the years, my diet is healthy and I have no other risk factors and am asymptomatic. So imagine my surprise and shock to find a calcium score of 2300! My cardiologist put me on 20 mg Lipitor and baby aspirin a week ago and I have been in touch with a reputable herbalist (the same herbalist my wife has used since her ovarian cancer diagnosis 4 years ago – and she's doing absolutely great). I'm going to start on his program of supplements to go along with the statin and aspirin. I've read conflicting facts. For example one states that anyone with a score of over 1000 has a 25% chance of having a major cardiac event within a year. I've also read that because the calcium has most likely been developing over many many years the score might not be a true indication of risk. What I would love to know and will ask my doc when I see her next week is how do we know how much blockage I have? They say stress tests results will show blockages if the blockages are over 70%. The score might not necessarily reflect the severity of narrowing. Maybe I oughta stop reading about all this and just get to the gym!

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Hi @nyartist and welcome to Connect.
You'll notice that I moved your message to this existing discussion about high calcium scores. I did this so that you can meet others who have managed similar issues and may be able answer some of your questions about risk and blockage, or at least share their experiences and help you prepare questions for your upcoming appointment with your doctor. I'm tagging @degarden_girl @botexas @luckyg @keithl56 and @thankful to invite them back to this discussion.

NYArtist, it sounds like you've already started a list of great questions for your doctor. I'm not surprised that you've found conflicting facts about calcium scores related to risk. Risk is so multi-factorial. Only a physician consult will by able to measure the risk level specific to you. I suspect that your level of physical fitness and diet will play well in your favor. I might recommend that you let the herbalists know about the medications you're taking and the cardiologist about regimen the herbalist recommends. It's important that each knows what the other prescribesso that they can work together and be aware of possible drug, supplement and diet interactions. A pharmacist is also a great member of your team to help monitor treatment combinations. Will you be seeing the herbalist before you meet with the cardiologist?

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My first Calcium score was in 2004 at the age of 47 and it was high, 702. I opted to just watch what I eat and stay active and took the test again this year 2018 and my score is now 1740. I do well on echo stress tests, and have borderline cholesterol numbers and high triglicerides. My doctors both cardio and generalists want to put me on statin drugs. I am resisting because I see tenuous benefits at best from the statin studies I have read. Most of those studies seem to include baby aspirins which tends to confuse the studies. I do take a baby aspirin a day. The other reasons is the side effects of statins are high, when I've tried them I had muscle pains. My other reasons for is that I've seen two elderly relatives on high dosage of statins and they both subsequently developed type 2 diabetes. I've tried to do a lot of research on the topic of high calcium scores and the only thing I found that might be of interest to this population is K2 vitamin, the claim is that it takes calcium from the arteries back to the blood stream and to the bones where it belongs. I am very skeptical, so I brought it up to my cardiologist and he had heard of it and recommended I get on it. So now I am on K2 vitamins and baby aspirin. I might get on the statins if I can find compelling research on their benefits. I would be interested in any article references on statins impact on calcium score and of survival benefits of statins for people with high calcium score.
Thanks and best of health to all with high calcium scores…

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@zino

My first Calcium score was in 2004 at the age of 47 and it was high, 702. I opted to just watch what I eat and stay active and took the test again this year 2018 and my score is now 1740. I do well on echo stress tests, and have borderline cholesterol numbers and high triglicerides. My doctors both cardio and generalists want to put me on statin drugs. I am resisting because I see tenuous benefits at best from the statin studies I have read. Most of those studies seem to include baby aspirins which tends to confuse the studies. I do take a baby aspirin a day. The other reasons is the side effects of statins are high, when I've tried them I had muscle pains. My other reasons for is that I've seen two elderly relatives on high dosage of statins and they both subsequently developed type 2 diabetes. I've tried to do a lot of research on the topic of high calcium scores and the only thing I found that might be of interest to this population is K2 vitamin, the claim is that it takes calcium from the arteries back to the blood stream and to the bones where it belongs. I am very skeptical, so I brought it up to my cardiologist and he had heard of it and recommended I get on it. So now I am on K2 vitamins and baby aspirin. I might get on the statins if I can find compelling research on their benefits. I would be interested in any article references on statins impact on calcium score and of survival benefits of statins for people with high calcium score.
Thanks and best of health to all with high calcium scores…

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@zino our numbers are not all that different. My cardiologist, when she saw my 2000+ score put me on 20 mg of Lipitor and a baby aspirin. I was ok with that until I spoke to the herbalist working with my wife who has ovarian cancer. She's been doing all the medical things prescribed by Memorial Sloan Kettering but he has her on an extensive program of herbs. Of course it's impossible to know if it's his herbs keeping her so healthy or just other factors. But as long as she's cancer free now we're sticking with his program. Well after talking to him and reading more research I decided to try what he was subscribing to me; anthocyanins, Cardio 5, CoQ10, Omega fish oils, Ultra K and Magnesium buffered chelate. He says Magnesium with the anthocyanins maintains elasticity in the arteries and keeps the from being brittle and developing clots. Omega 3 have some blood thinning effect and Cardio 5 works on multiple levels for vascular health, resting heart rate. He is stating that this kind of regimen can actually reduce the level of plaque in the arteries and there apparently is scientific evidence to support that.
Just read a study in Science Daily that is among the most encouraging things I have come across https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180419141523.htm They talk about doing a chemical adjustment to the CoQ10 and seeing arteries return to a healthier state. It's a must read. Anyway, I didn't like the idea of the baby aspirin being that some of the herbs I'm taking also have blood thinning properties. Eventually I believe I will no longer need the Lipitor. Medical doctors can't possibly know about all the developments in herb treatments. They just don't have the time or maybe even the motivation to study things outside their specialty. But before I started taking any of these supplements and researched the heck out of them.

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@zino

My first Calcium score was in 2004 at the age of 47 and it was high, 702. I opted to just watch what I eat and stay active and took the test again this year 2018 and my score is now 1740. I do well on echo stress tests, and have borderline cholesterol numbers and high triglicerides. My doctors both cardio and generalists want to put me on statin drugs. I am resisting because I see tenuous benefits at best from the statin studies I have read. Most of those studies seem to include baby aspirins which tends to confuse the studies. I do take a baby aspirin a day. The other reasons is the side effects of statins are high, when I've tried them I had muscle pains. My other reasons for is that I've seen two elderly relatives on high dosage of statins and they both subsequently developed type 2 diabetes. I've tried to do a lot of research on the topic of high calcium scores and the only thing I found that might be of interest to this population is K2 vitamin, the claim is that it takes calcium from the arteries back to the blood stream and to the bones where it belongs. I am very skeptical, so I brought it up to my cardiologist and he had heard of it and recommended I get on it. So now I am on K2 vitamins and baby aspirin. I might get on the statins if I can find compelling research on their benefits. I would be interested in any article references on statins impact on calcium score and of survival benefits of statins for people with high calcium score.
Thanks and best of health to all with high calcium scores…

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My LAD is calicified.Survived Heart Attack in July 2011.Living Statin Free life.Suggest your consulting new Cardiologist.You May consider visiting India or UK .I can probably help if you wish.

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Hi Group. I'm new and I read @zino post and wanted to respond. I wish I had a score of 702 like you did when you where 47. I'm 47 now and have a score of 1460. Being this young and feeling like a ticking time bomb has changed the way I'm looking at life. I'm unemployed but wondering if getting back into my field, Sales, is even something I should consider. I've been researching and understand that K2 comes from Gouda and Brie cheese. Is the vitamin as effective to get what we need? Also, I read that MK-7, found in Edam and Natto is very important as well. I'm now reading about how to change my diet. The vitamin cocktail for us with high Calcium scores is C,D3, E, Magnesium and K2 + MK-7. Anyone know the best brands to use? I understand there are a lot of bad vitamin brands that have great marketing but poor product.

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Hi @kishanvasekar – can you share some of your regimen, vitamins and daily intakes that are a must for you?

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@snakebyte1

Hi Group. I'm new and I read @zino post and wanted to respond. I wish I had a score of 702 like you did when you where 47. I'm 47 now and have a score of 1460. Being this young and feeling like a ticking time bomb has changed the way I'm looking at life. I'm unemployed but wondering if getting back into my field, Sales, is even something I should consider. I've been researching and understand that K2 comes from Gouda and Brie cheese. Is the vitamin as effective to get what we need? Also, I read that MK-7, found in Edam and Natto is very important as well. I'm now reading about how to change my diet. The vitamin cocktail for us with high Calcium scores is C,D3, E, Magnesium and K2 + MK-7. Anyone know the best brands to use? I understand there are a lot of bad vitamin brands that have great marketing but poor product.

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I'm taking K2 vitamins from NatureMade and I'm also eating Brie and Gouda cheeses daily… A little worried about the cheeses because obviously they are also a source of calcium and calories… Best to live your life to the fullest and not back off … the 10 year chance of a cardiac event is 20 to 40% but that also means 60-80% chance that nothing will happen… Good luck

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I'm working with a guy out west who has my wife on an anti cancer herbal treatment – which seems to be working very well. He designed something for me last month when I told him about by 2316 calcium score..

Cardio Five 150
Anthocyanins Advantage 150
Mag Buffered Chelate 120
UBQH 200 CoQ10
Ultra K 90
Fish Oil 120

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I'm not recommending anything and have never had cancer but you should take a look at the 4-herb tea and the story behind it……http://www.herbalhealer.com/

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@zino

My first Calcium score was in 2004 at the age of 47 and it was high, 702. I opted to just watch what I eat and stay active and took the test again this year 2018 and my score is now 1740. I do well on echo stress tests, and have borderline cholesterol numbers and high triglicerides. My doctors both cardio and generalists want to put me on statin drugs. I am resisting because I see tenuous benefits at best from the statin studies I have read. Most of those studies seem to include baby aspirins which tends to confuse the studies. I do take a baby aspirin a day. The other reasons is the side effects of statins are high, when I've tried them I had muscle pains. My other reasons for is that I've seen two elderly relatives on high dosage of statins and they both subsequently developed type 2 diabetes. I've tried to do a lot of research on the topic of high calcium scores and the only thing I found that might be of interest to this population is K2 vitamin, the claim is that it takes calcium from the arteries back to the blood stream and to the bones where it belongs. I am very skeptical, so I brought it up to my cardiologist and he had heard of it and recommended I get on it. So now I am on K2 vitamins and baby aspirin. I might get on the statins if I can find compelling research on their benefits. I would be interested in any article references on statins impact on calcium score and of survival benefits of statins for people with high calcium score.
Thanks and best of health to all with high calcium scores…

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I visit UK occasionally… What should I be looking for?

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@nyartist

I've been an athlete all my life and have been exercising vigorously for over 55 years (I'm 74) my HDL has been very good, I always surpassed the benchmarks for my age in all the stress tests I've taken over the years, my diet is healthy and I have no other risk factors and am asymptomatic. So imagine my surprise and shock to find a calcium score of 2300! My cardiologist put me on 20 mg Lipitor and baby aspirin a week ago and I have been in touch with a reputable herbalist (the same herbalist my wife has used since her ovarian cancer diagnosis 4 years ago – and she's doing absolutely great). I'm going to start on his program of supplements to go along with the statin and aspirin. I've read conflicting facts. For example one states that anyone with a score of over 1000 has a 25% chance of having a major cardiac event within a year. I've also read that because the calcium has most likely been developing over many many years the score might not be a true indication of risk. What I would love to know and will ask my doc when I see her next week is how do we know how much blockage I have? They say stress tests results will show blockages if the blockages are over 70%. The score might not necessarily reflect the severity of narrowing. Maybe I oughta stop reading about all this and just get to the gym!

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Hello,Bo from Texas. Iam 75,exercised all my life and always ace the treadmill test. Found out,trying to do some preventative test,discovered my calcium score was 2450. Had a nuclear stress test and had a METS score of 14, equivalent to a 24 year old. My HDL is 80 and my LDL is 76,triglycerides is 60. Being a southern boy,sure I have had too much fried foods and steaks. My liver makes too much cholesterol and I am on 40 mg of simvasatin. About 5 years ago,tried getting off and my total cholesterol went from 170 to 280 in three weeks. I believe in satin drugs. No side effects for me. Will get results from a 256k high resolution scanner next week. By the way,Medicare would not pay for scan,so $1200 out of pocket. On my own,starting taking K2(MK7)+D3. 180 mg K2. Will post results of my meeting with Doc. Next week. Still exercising 75 minutes every day. Good luck!

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@nyartist

I've been an athlete all my life and have been exercising vigorously for over 55 years (I'm 74) my HDL has been very good, I always surpassed the benchmarks for my age in all the stress tests I've taken over the years, my diet is healthy and I have no other risk factors and am asymptomatic. So imagine my surprise and shock to find a calcium score of 2300! My cardiologist put me on 20 mg Lipitor and baby aspirin a week ago and I have been in touch with a reputable herbalist (the same herbalist my wife has used since her ovarian cancer diagnosis 4 years ago – and she's doing absolutely great). I'm going to start on his program of supplements to go along with the statin and aspirin. I've read conflicting facts. For example one states that anyone with a score of over 1000 has a 25% chance of having a major cardiac event within a year. I've also read that because the calcium has most likely been developing over many many years the score might not be a true indication of risk. What I would love to know and will ask my doc when I see her next week is how do we know how much blockage I have? They say stress tests results will show blockages if the blockages are over 70%. The score might not necessarily reflect the severity of narrowing. Maybe I oughta stop reading about all this and just get to the gym!

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Hello,Bo from Texas. In same boat as you. 2400 calcium score but did great on stress test. I had another 256 k heart scan two weeks ago that my Doc. Says will show blockages. Going to him for results next Wednesday. Have not stopped exercising about 75 minutes every day. Will post my results and recommendations next week.

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@nyartist

I've been an athlete all my life and have been exercising vigorously for over 55 years (I'm 74) my HDL has been very good, I always surpassed the benchmarks for my age in all the stress tests I've taken over the years, my diet is healthy and I have no other risk factors and am asymptomatic. So imagine my surprise and shock to find a calcium score of 2300! My cardiologist put me on 20 mg Lipitor and baby aspirin a week ago and I have been in touch with a reputable herbalist (the same herbalist my wife has used since her ovarian cancer diagnosis 4 years ago – and she's doing absolutely great). I'm going to start on his program of supplements to go along with the statin and aspirin. I've read conflicting facts. For example one states that anyone with a score of over 1000 has a 25% chance of having a major cardiac event within a year. I've also read that because the calcium has most likely been developing over many many years the score might not be a true indication of risk. What I would love to know and will ask my doc when I see her next week is how do we know how much blockage I have? They say stress tests results will show blockages if the blockages are over 70%. The score might not necessarily reflect the severity of narrowing. Maybe I oughta stop reading about all this and just get to the gym!

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Got my results back and was generally good news. No blockages with mild stenosis.Flow rates were good at .91,.87 and.87. They start to worry at .75. May put me on
Crestor rather than Zocor to try and get my ldl down to below 50. Took more blood test to measure sizes of LDL and HDL and to check a certain protein in blood. Said to keep exercising and eating plenty ol tuna and salmon. No fried food or red meat. An eat elk in moderation. Avoid sugar as it is toxic and a major player in CAD. Hear results from blood test in a week.

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