Cpap and sleep

Posted by steve1948 @steve1948, Feb 24, 2017

I was in the hospital for pneumonia and while I was getting a nebulizer treatment the therapist asked if I use a Cpap at home, at the time I didn’t have one. Now mind you I was only sleeping for 2 hrs a night during my pneumonia bout (2 weeks) and the therapist asked if I were open to using a BPAP (what they call it in a hospital) it was a large machine and I said of course. Upon using it I still only slept for 2 hours but it was a very restful 2 hours of sleep and was welcomed. I told my Pulmonologist and got set up for a sleep study, and it is all history. I sleep more restful (have much less visits to the bathroom at night) and use it religiously. Medicare covered my testing and machine. After my test my doc told me I stopped breathing x amount of times a minute, and was restless (tossed and turned) an ungodly amount of time during my test. On the follow up test (with the Cpap) the number decreased significantly. My sister snores like a constant thunder storm and she went for a test and got her Cpap, and now she doesn’t snore at all and tells me she sleeps much better.
There are two ways to use the machine, with a nostril mask (so to speak) and a full mask (you usually see on TV movies). The latter is what I use, I couldn’t get use to the nostril application, and if you were to catch a cold, I don’t know how well it would work, but I use the mask never the less. Hope this helps, and do read the instructions about your machine.

@johnbishop

Hi Lisa @lisalucier — Thanks for posting…I was actually thinking about posting an update as I am used to the CPAP and the AHI has gotten fairly consistent with a few bumps in the road. I have been CPAP mask shopping again but haven't decided. The one I have is the ResMed AirFit F20 full face mask and I use a cloth comfort cover (https://cpapcomfortcover.com/fits-airfit-and-airtouch-f20-full-face-mask/) which really helps. Even with the comfort cover I have nights where I feel claustrophobic and still get a sore spot on the top of my nose.

I can generally tell when I go to bed at night whether it's going to be a good night or a so-so night. Mainly it's from how I can breath through my nose with my mouth closed. If it's not really clear and my right nostril seems plugged it's not looking good. When it's like this it doesn't matter what I do – blow my nose, try to irrigate it, etc, nothing works to make it open up. I found out when I was first diagnosed that I have a deviated septum and I had asked the doctor about it but he didn't think it would make any difference as to the obstructive sleep apnea. Right now I'm thinking maybe it will but don't know if it's worth getting it fixed. I was going to discuss with my doctor but need to set up another appointment with him.

Anyone out there with a deviated septum that has had it fixed? Did it make a difference using your CPAP?

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I believe we may have discussed this previously, but repetition is good. It helps to review what we know and besides I am not certain we did discuss this before. I have not had my deviated septum operated on, but I did try to get approval for it. The doctor told me that it was a major operation as the whole nose would have to be rebuilt. He said Minnesota by law does not allow medically unnecessary operations. I could use a decongestant spray to relieve the congestion. The spray did not work so I am left with having to take off my mask during the night and blowing my nose. It will be interesting to see what your doctor says as this was many years ago that I was told this. I too am using the same mask as you and am considering going back to the blue gel face mask. It is huge, but seems to work better at reducing leaks. Thank you for the update and congratulations on getting your events so low.

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@johnhans

I believe we may have discussed this previously, but repetition is good. It helps to review what we know and besides I am not certain we did discuss this before. I have not had my deviated septum operated on, but I did try to get approval for it. The doctor told me that it was a major operation as the whole nose would have to be rebuilt. He said Minnesota by law does not allow medically unnecessary operations. I could use a decongestant spray to relieve the congestion. The spray did not work so I am left with having to take off my mask during the night and blowing my nose. It will be interesting to see what your doctor says as this was many years ago that I was told this. I too am using the same mask as you and am considering going back to the blue gel face mask. It is huge, but seems to work better at reducing leaks. Thank you for the update and congratulations on getting your events so low.

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@johnhans I think you are right. I talked with another person who had the operation to correct the deviated septum and was told it was pretty painful and took a long time to heal. Pretty sure all of that healing time would be with no CPAP mask ☺ I was looking at the new ResMed AirFit F30 full face mask. It's similar to the Amara View and Dreamwear Full Face Mask in that it fits under and up against the nose but it looks like it would be a better fit for me. Actually, the Dreamwear Full Face Mask was the second one I tried and I used it a couple of months and thought it was good. Then all of sudden I couldn't stand it. After that I tried the Amara View full face mask and used it for less than a month before I switched back to the ResMed AirFit F10. Then I went to the ResMed AirFit F20 and it seemed easier to breath but it was always chaffing my nose. Then I tried the ResMed AirTouch F20 memory foam mask and it seemed pretty good for awhile. That was about the time I had to take my CPAP machine back to the sleep medicine doctor for my Medicare compliance readings. While I was talking with the nurse and telling her what has been bugging with the nose chaffing, she told me about the comfort cover that fits over the mask and is washable. I've used that combination ever since with my ResMed AirFit F20.

So that's kind of my dilemma. Kind of like throwing money down a CPAP pit ☺ and that got me to thinking about what if I could fix the breathing issue with my deviated septum.

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Does anyone have problems with the Luna H60 heated humidifier? I keep getting a "humidifier failure" message after using it for a short time. I have a new humidifier and a new water container and have not changed the way I sleep. This is a new development and is baffling. The CPAP machine works fine without the humidifier but I'd prefer being able to use both together.

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@beatricefay

Does anyone have problems with the Luna H60 heated humidifier? I keep getting a "humidifier failure" message after using it for a short time. I have a new humidifier and a new water container and have not changed the way I sleep. This is a new development and is baffling. The CPAP machine works fine without the humidifier but I'd prefer being able to use both together.

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@beatricefay have you called the medical store where you purchased the humidifier? I did see a discussion here about the problem that sounds like it's an issue with the humidifier that needs servicing or replacement.

http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t60418/Humidifier-ErrorAgain.html

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@johnbishop

@beatricefay have you called the medical store where you purchased the humidifier? I did see a discussion here about the problem that sounds like it's an issue with the humidifier that needs servicing or replacement.

http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t60418/Humidifier-ErrorAgain.html

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I just had the humidifier replaced. Am checking with the supplier. Hope I can get an answer.

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@johnbishop

@beatricefay have you called the medical store where you purchased the humidifier? I did see a discussion here about the problem that sounds like it's an issue with the humidifier that needs servicing or replacement.

http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t60418/Humidifier-ErrorAgain.html

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Thanks for the link. Still working on the problem. Can't figure out why it will work okay for a few nights, then suddenly get a humidifier failure message on my machine. I might try a new CPAP machine. Perhaps that's the problem.

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@beatricefay

Thanks for the link. Still working on the problem. Can't figure out why it will work okay for a few nights, then suddenly get a humidifier failure message on my machine. I might try a new CPAP machine. Perhaps that's the problem.

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@beatricefay what did your supplier say about the error message?

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@johnbishop

@beatricefay what did your supplier say about the error message?

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Got a new humidifier but still have the problem. No answer yet from the supplier.

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Has anyone had issues with the air pressure from the CPAP machine lifting the mask off of their face? I have been getting tired of my ResMed AirFit F20 full face CPAP mask and thought I would give their newest full face mask a try – the ResMed F30 full face mask. It is similar to the Amara View and the Dreamwear Full Face mask that fit under the nose instead of over the bridge of the nose like my ResMed F20. I went to my local medical store and was fitted for the F30 and sat in the chair and wore it with airflow set to 9 which is above what my CPAP machine minimum setting ( 8 to 18). It felt really good for the 10 minutes I wore it at the store. I brought it home and hooked it up last night and thought I was on my way to a better mask until about 3 am when I started having leaking issues and the mask seemed be leaking as the pressure increased.

I kept waking up and having to tighten the mask to keep it from whistling around the nose area. I gave up around 4 am and just took it off. It's been a long time since that happened…and it happened with the Dreamware and Amara View masks the same. I've noticed when I have had a good nights sleep my pressure didn't get to the max so tonight I'm going to try an experiment and lower the max pressure to around 14 and see what happens (sorry doc but it's better than no CPAP! and if it works I will request persmission to change it permanently) ☺ I'm curious if anyone else has done any experimenting like this?

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@johnbishop

Has anyone had issues with the air pressure from the CPAP machine lifting the mask off of their face? I have been getting tired of my ResMed AirFit F20 full face CPAP mask and thought I would give their newest full face mask a try – the ResMed F30 full face mask. It is similar to the Amara View and the Dreamwear Full Face mask that fit under the nose instead of over the bridge of the nose like my ResMed F20. I went to my local medical store and was fitted for the F30 and sat in the chair and wore it with airflow set to 9 which is above what my CPAP machine minimum setting ( 8 to 18). It felt really good for the 10 minutes I wore it at the store. I brought it home and hooked it up last night and thought I was on my way to a better mask until about 3 am when I started having leaking issues and the mask seemed be leaking as the pressure increased.

I kept waking up and having to tighten the mask to keep it from whistling around the nose area. I gave up around 4 am and just took it off. It's been a long time since that happened…and it happened with the Dreamware and Amara View masks the same. I've noticed when I have had a good nights sleep my pressure didn't get to the max so tonight I'm going to try an experiment and lower the max pressure to around 14 and see what happens (sorry doc but it's better than no CPAP! and if it works I will request persmission to change it permanently) ☺ I'm curious if anyone else has done any experimenting like this?

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I have the same problem with my dreamware mask. I want to go back to my blue gel mask from Phillips but it has been a year since I got a prescription and my sleep medicine doctor is booked solid until the middle of September. They will not prescribe until I see the doctor. Right now I have the mask so tight that it leaves marks on my face for hours after and loosening even a little and the mask leaks bad. I am frustrated and tired.

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@johnhans

I have the same problem with my dreamware mask. I want to go back to my blue gel mask from Phillips but it has been a year since I got a prescription and my sleep medicine doctor is booked solid until the middle of September. They will not prescribe until I see the doctor. Right now I have the mask so tight that it leaves marks on my face for hours after and loosening even a little and the mask leaks bad. I am frustrated and tired.

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@johnhans my prescription was also expired in July. I sent my sleep medicine doctor a message on the Mayo Patient portal and asked him if they could renew it. I told him all was going well with the CPAP and I wasn't having any issues sleeping. He replied that he would renew it for a year and then setup another appointment at that time to see how it was going.

I would ask him that since he is not able to see you sooner than the middle of September why can't he renew the prescription so you can get replacement mask (your previous one that he more than likely allowed) until you are able to get the appointment? I would think they would want to help you with any CPAP issue.

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@johnbishop

@johnhans my prescription was also expired in July. I sent my sleep medicine doctor a message on the Mayo Patient portal and asked him if they could renew it. I told him all was going well with the CPAP and I wasn't having any issues sleeping. He replied that he would renew it for a year and then setup another appointment at that time to see how it was going.

I would ask him that since he is not able to see you sooner than the middle of September why can't he renew the prescription so you can get replacement mask (your previous one that he more than likely allowed) until you are able to get the appointment? I would think they would want to help you with any CPAP issue.

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I did ask that @johnbishop but have not had any response in over a week. I even looked for another doctor closer to where I live and there are none accepting new patients. Only this clinic.

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@johnhans

I did ask that @johnbishop but have not had any response in over a week. I even looked for another doctor closer to where I live and there are none accepting new patients. Only this clinic.

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@]johnhans I found a cloth cover for my Dreamwear full face mask that helped a little. It would still leak a little but didn't get worse through the night and it made it a little more comfortable.
https://www.cpap.com/productpage/silent-night-full-face-cpap-mask-liners

When I switched to the ResMed AirFit F20 the sleep medicine therapist told me about comfort covers that others used and found helpful. She gave me the link to the website: https://cpapcomfortcover.com/ You might check the site to see if they have one for your gel mask.

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