CBD oil and depression/anxiety

Posted by lalyfa @lalyfa, Feb 24, 2018

I am curious to know if anyone has had success with CBD or Hemp oil helping with depression/anxiety? I’ve been reading a lot about it and am curious.
I’ve been reading about this and am very interested but would like thoughts/opinions from anyone who has actually tried it or knows someone who has. TIA

Thank you,
Laura

@brightwings

@stephanieann
Wow, I too am an RN. I thought all this was hippy crap. Oh my gosh, it is not.
I had tremendous abuse as a kid. I finished my healing 1/11/11. God has continually led me to the next step in my healing. CBD was introduced last summer and I will take this until the day I die.
I used to be on 16 meds. 6 of them were sedating. I took my last Effexor Jan, 2018. End effect of getting off all the meds was high anxiety…
CBD gives me a completely normal life. I moved recently from out of the Ozark wilderness to a town of almost 4000. My normal personality has come out and I am the hit of the senior center. I make everyone laugh with my antics and singing. I isolated for years after my husband died.
I use Lazarus Naturals. 50 mg to 1 tsp. Cost is a factor for me. I was paying $50 for 1200 mg in coconut oil. 2 bottles a month. I take 1/2 tsp 3 times a day. I feel wonderful.
Now I have no affiation with the company. They have 3 programs that give assistance with cost.
1. Vets 2. Disabled 3. Low income. 60%off once the appropriate papers are sent in.
I lost my nursing career after a simple bone spur surgery that became a 2 year nightmare. Ostiomylitis. Tomorrow I will order my first CBD at 60% off.
I also have MS. The polar vortex got me. My last bad relapse took 4 years to get under control. I know CBD helps my MS too. I have been using it since last summer. Like I said I will use this until the day I die.
Bright Wings

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As I stated before, I would like to get some relief from my anxiety and depression by trying CBD oil. I am currently taking low doses of Klonopin and Effexor. A couple other members of this group advised that I find out what Rx drugs can be taken safely or not with CBD. I researched and learned CBD oil and Klonopin can not be used safely together .
You each might try googling any drugs you are on with CBD oil use to be sure you use it safely.
The best to all!

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Hi,

My son took Clonopin daily prior to taking CBD. . I used CBD to wean him off clonopin and went very slowly lowering the dose of Clonopin as I very slowly increased the CBD oil . He suffered no ill side effects from using both to my knowledge. He used to take 1 mg of Clonopin in am and 0.5 in PM . When I started lowering the dose of Clonopin he initially took 0.5mg of Clonopin in am and 0.5 mg in PM . I initially gave him small amount of CBD oil every 4-6 hours. I would check with the prescribing doctor for the Clonopin and see what they think about it. FYI you may need to get a second opinion because not all MD's are familiar with CBD I also had a pill cutter and was even cutting the .5 mg Clonopin in half to get 0.25mg As I recall I made a change in the dosage about every 2 weeks. It took months but he was successfully weaned off the clonopin. You could of course also try just reducing the clonopin slowly and give no CBD until you are completely off of it. I again would check with the prescribing MD realizing that some MD's are firmly opposed to using any CBD. . I gave him some CBD while withdrawing the clonopin to prevent an increase in anxiety. Everyone can be different in how they respond also. Best to check with a couple MD's who are knowledgeable. My son's psychiatrist was not knowledgeable about dosing with CBD but was knowledgeable about how to wean off a psychiatric med. With SSRI's you need to go very slow as well to avoid untoward side effects.

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@stephanieann

Hi,

My son took Clonopin daily prior to taking CBD. . I used CBD to wean him off clonopin and went very slowly lowering the dose of Clonopin as I very slowly increased the CBD oil . He suffered no ill side effects from using both to my knowledge. He used to take 1 mg of Clonopin in am and 0.5 in PM . When I started lowering the dose of Clonopin he initially took 0.5mg of Clonopin in am and 0.5 mg in PM . I initially gave him small amount of CBD oil every 4-6 hours. I would check with the prescribing doctor for the Clonopin and see what they think about it. FYI you may need to get a second opinion because not all MD's are familiar with CBD I also had a pill cutter and was even cutting the .5 mg Clonopin in half to get 0.25mg As I recall I made a change in the dosage about every 2 weeks. It took months but he was successfully weaned off the clonopin. You could of course also try just reducing the clonopin slowly and give no CBD until you are completely off of it. I again would check with the prescribing MD realizing that some MD's are firmly opposed to using any CBD. . I gave him some CBD while withdrawing the clonopin to prevent an increase in anxiety. Everyone can be different in how they respond also. Best to check with a couple MD's who are knowledgeable. My son's psychiatrist was not knowledgeable about dosing with CBD but was knowledgeable about how to wean off a psychiatric med. With SSRI's you need to go very slow as well to avoid untoward side effects.

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Thank you so very much for all you did for your son and so successfully . I totally appreciate your sharing and will check with my drs to see if this is a possible solution for me. Is your son now free of anxiety and depression? Thanks so much.
Nancy

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@stephanieann

The care by design is 18mg of CBD in 1 ml. 18:1. I initially started with Treatwell but they went out of business. Then I switched to Sweet Jayne, then Myriam's hope. It is a lot of trial and error. Now I have been using Care by Design since it seems to work a little better than the others. If you find a reputable marijuana dispensary with people who have treated others with autism and/or anxiety they can give you very valuable information. Also Radicle health clinic which was worth paying privately for consultation, was very helpful.
I initially started my son with a very small dose 0.25ml which had little effect, then went to 0.5 ml and now he recently started taking 0.7 ml every 4 to 5 hours. I also have his care staff take daily data on some of his target behaviors which indicate anxiety for him eg. yelling, hitting, rubbing hands together repeatedly, pleasant, more cooperative etc, You can look at the ATEC Autism Treatment Evaluation Checklist on the ARI website and there are other behavioral checklists that can be adapted for an individualized treatment evaluation form. Taking quantifiable data I find is important because then you have an idea of what is happening daily, how the person is before the CBD and after. INMHO, data taking or at least journaling is important to determine the efficacy of psychiatric medications.
For my son CBD seems to start taking effect after about 45 minutes. Hope this information is helpful There are other websites on CBD and autism which I have to explore. I am not an expert yet so please do not take what I wrote above as a recommendation.. I am just sharing my experience. . I am a RN with a masters degree and may take an intensive course in CBD/medicinal marijuana to further help my son and others.

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@stephanieann, @asdmommy, Care by Design is my preferred tincture. Consistent quality and trustworthy. My dispensary recommended it for me and I am very satisfied.

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@artscaping– Good morning- Do they ship anywhere? I couldn't find any info on that on their site.

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@merpreb, @brightwings And good morning to you both. Here is the FAQ message regarding shipping for Care by Design. "At this time, Care By Design products are only available for sale in the state of California and cannot be shipped or mailed across state lines." Hopefully, you have access to California. Some of their products are either all CBD or have high CBD to THC ratios. Their sight is good for its ability to help you with product choices based upon your responses. They also address the issue of hemp versus cannabis and why cannabis is most effective. All of their products contain only oils extracted from cannabis. Be safe and secure today. Chris

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@artscaping– Thank yu so much for this information and suggestion.

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@artscaping

@merpreb, @brightwings And good morning to you both. Here is the FAQ message regarding shipping for Care by Design. "At this time, Care By Design products are only available for sale in the state of California and cannot be shipped or mailed across state lines." Hopefully, you have access to California. Some of their products are either all CBD or have high CBD to THC ratios. Their sight is good for its ability to help you with product choices based upon your responses. They also address the issue of hemp versus cannabis and why cannabis is most effective. All of their products contain only oils extracted from cannabis. Be safe and secure today. Chris

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Thanks @artscaping
Well that leaves us out, right Merry. I am in Missouri and Merry is on the east coast.
Thanks anyways. BW

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@asdmommy and @stephanieann – if you've not yet checked it out, you might take a look at the Connect Adults on the Autism Spectrum discussion https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/seniors-on-the-spectrum. I know you said that your son is 16, @asdmommy, but I think it would still be fine and of interest to you to look at and participate. The discussion, you will see from the link, originally started with seniors on the autism spectrum and has grown and broadened to include a wider group of people. Lots of very caring members there who have autism and lots of experience with it, and also big hearts.

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Checking in…Right now I can hardly smile. I also realize that minute by minute, I can feel my body sinking into depression. My brain, muscles, there is no life in me…no vibrancy. I am feeling an incredible weight.
.
Now realize, I am incredibly attuned to my body, mind and spirit, much more so than a usual person.
.
I moved in December, just 37 miles but out of the wilderness to the biggest city of the area. Southern Missouri…almost 4,000 folks here in this big city. Giggling, I used to be a Chicago girl.
I caught that giggle, did you?
My life instantly turned around from a secretly sad lonely 68 year old woman who isolated to being the Darling of the Senior Center and now also the local legion hall of Vets…
I was singing, telling jokes to the entire room alot, back to the extrovert I was raised to be, touching folks…why? Cuz no body touches old people…just saying…
Anyway, I was having the time of my life…I came alive, it was wonderful. Wow, look I am writing in past tense…interesting…as if that new life is gone. (Bear with me, not exactly rambling cuz there is intent in what I am doing…)
Singing is a gift that was just returned to me around valentines day after almost dying…I lost my ability to sing and play my mandolin because my multiple sclerosis took it in 2006. The biggest loss of my life.
.
So back to this wonderful life I had…
Monday I went to lunch at the senior center, and just didn't want to go to Monday nite music. Same as last week.
Tuesday, went to the Vets breakfast, but had not baked anything for it. Lunch as usual…home…
Today I chose not to go for coffee with the vets, even though I am told each time to sit at the Commanders table and the jokes do fly. Lunch, barely ate 1/3 of my lunch. Feeling so depressed. Not going to Thursday night music and did not bake for it.
.
Ok now the rest of the story.
.
The only thing that is different in my life is since December, I used to take 2,400 mg CBD each month. Because of lack of availability I was cut down to 600mg for this month.
The CBD allowed me to become the extrovert I am and the loss of the CBD sent me right back to the secretly sad, lonely depressed woman who is again starting to cut things out of my life that gave me thrills to participate in last month.
.
As I read this, I realize I don't care either. I can't believe I am saying all this and don't even care. Life with out CBD is no life for me.
.
Wow
.
CBD is being ordered first thing in the am, payday…
I WANT MY LIFE BACK.
Bright Wings
@merry, is there any way you can copy this and post it in withdrawing from Effexor? Thanks..BW

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@brightwings

Checking in…Right now I can hardly smile. I also realize that minute by minute, I can feel my body sinking into depression. My brain, muscles, there is no life in me…no vibrancy. I am feeling an incredible weight.
.
Now realize, I am incredibly attuned to my body, mind and spirit, much more so than a usual person.
.
I moved in December, just 37 miles but out of the wilderness to the biggest city of the area. Southern Missouri…almost 4,000 folks here in this big city. Giggling, I used to be a Chicago girl.
I caught that giggle, did you?
My life instantly turned around from a secretly sad lonely 68 year old woman who isolated to being the Darling of the Senior Center and now also the local legion hall of Vets…
I was singing, telling jokes to the entire room alot, back to the extrovert I was raised to be, touching folks…why? Cuz no body touches old people…just saying…
Anyway, I was having the time of my life…I came alive, it was wonderful. Wow, look I am writing in past tense…interesting…as if that new life is gone. (Bear with me, not exactly rambling cuz there is intent in what I am doing…)
Singing is a gift that was just returned to me around valentines day after almost dying…I lost my ability to sing and play my mandolin because my multiple sclerosis took it in 2006. The biggest loss of my life.
.
So back to this wonderful life I had…
Monday I went to lunch at the senior center, and just didn't want to go to Monday nite music. Same as last week.
Tuesday, went to the Vets breakfast, but had not baked anything for it. Lunch as usual…home…
Today I chose not to go for coffee with the vets, even though I am told each time to sit at the Commanders table and the jokes do fly. Lunch, barely ate 1/3 of my lunch. Feeling so depressed. Not going to Thursday night music and did not bake for it.
.
Ok now the rest of the story.
.
The only thing that is different in my life is since December, I used to take 2,400 mg CBD each month. Because of lack of availability I was cut down to 600mg for this month.
The CBD allowed me to become the extrovert I am and the loss of the CBD sent me right back to the secretly sad, lonely depressed woman who is again starting to cut things out of my life that gave me thrills to participate in last month.
.
As I read this, I realize I don't care either. I can't believe I am saying all this and don't even care. Life with out CBD is no life for me.
.
Wow
.
CBD is being ordered first thing in the am, payday…
I WANT MY LIFE BACK.
Bright Wings
@merry, is there any way you can copy this and post it in withdrawing from Effexor? Thanks..BW

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@brightwings It seems our system will learn to lean on certain aids more than we realize. I am glad you wrote all you did, as it shows you sussed out what the cause of your despondency was, for you. Will you be able to keep an adequate supply of the CBD oil that works for you, on hand? Remember to be kind to yourself. Since you have figured out the issues, please take time to wait for the return of your "up' feelings, and be okay that you might feel more introverted for a few days. Remember, you do not owe an apology to anyone.
Please let us know how you are doing in a couple of days.
Ginger

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@gingerw

@brightwings It seems our system will learn to lean on certain aids more than we realize. I am glad you wrote all you did, as it shows you sussed out what the cause of your despondency was, for you. Will you be able to keep an adequate supply of the CBD oil that works for you, on hand? Remember to be kind to yourself. Since you have figured out the issues, please take time to wait for the return of your "up' feelings, and be okay that you might feel more introverted for a few days. Remember, you do not owe an apology to anyone.
Please let us know how you are doing in a couple of days.
Ginger

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I am interested in learning more about CBD oil. Would anyone be willing to be a guest on my podcast, educating about cbd oil and how it helps

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@ginger
Yes, I will be able to maintain my supply because I am now ordering directly from the company…no middleman.
I have a bit of money coming the end of the month, so will be ordering an extra months supply to keep on hand.
Its amazing, writing all that has hope flaring alive in me. It's been missed so much.
I am a nurse and have about 50 years mental health experience under my belt, so seeing the progression back to health and then the same loss of that wonderful life, wow, it startles me that CBD can made this much difference. I was just introduced to CBD last summer and have been gradually increasing the dosage. Found the right dose in Dec.
I will use this product for the rest of my life.
Bright Wings

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@suscros68

I am interested in learning more about CBD oil. Would anyone be willing to be a guest on my podcast, educating about cbd oil and how it helps

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Yes, I would. I have so much public speaking under my belt.
Bright Wings.

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@brightwings

@ginger
Yes, I will be able to maintain my supply because I am now ordering directly from the company…no middleman.
I have a bit of money coming the end of the month, so will be ordering an extra months supply to keep on hand.
Its amazing, writing all that has hope flaring alive in me. It's been missed so much.
I am a nurse and have about 50 years mental health experience under my belt, so seeing the progression back to health and then the same loss of that wonderful life, wow, it startles me that CBD can made this much difference. I was just introduced to CBD last summer and have been gradually increasing the dosage. Found the right dose in Dec.
I will use this product for the rest of my life.
Bright Wings

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@brightwings Good for you! It's a fine line we walk on our health path. An important lesson for you, and all of us!
Ginger

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