Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse?

Posted by gjones1956 @gjones1956, Nov 14, 2017

My daughter undergoes periodic peth testing for alchohol abuse. She fails regularly, although swears she drinks NOTHING. We have reason to believe she is telling the truth. Assuming she is indeed not drinking, is there a physical condition or ailment that might produce positive peth tests? She is 29, has enlarged lymph nodes, some kind of mysterious condition that gives her severe hives, etc. We are wondering if some type of autoinflammation or autoimmune condition might explain elevated levels. Our daughter is FINALLY discussing this with her regular doctor but if it is some unusual condition a specialist will be needed. The reason the peth test is required is due to a nasty custody dispute with lots of allegations of misconduct. I just want to know if there is ANYTHING other than alchohol consumption that can lead to positive test results. Any thoughts or knowledge of cases? Thanks for reading.

@oledocfarmer

Very good advice. Whenever my program does a PEth, I go to requestatest.com and order a LabCorp test the same day.

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Have you had any failures since starting this process? If you have would appreciate a PM.

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I believe something is wrong with the finger stick test, a 20 step procedure to obtain the sample.
Also I was diagnosed with bacterial overgrowth. Leaky gut. Methane breath test confirmed it. That can also effect the resuls. My hair follicle tests were Negative, my mail tests negative, my venous draws were also negative.
I am an RN who sought help, no problems with work, no DUIs, . The nursing board handed down a years worth of testing. I had 3 " positive " tests. My treatment center uses a local owned lab . I wonder about this " middle man lab". Back in May of 2019, another " middle man lab", in or around Dothan, Alabama was found guilty of changing drug test results. They had a contract with the state of Alabama or maybe that county's DHS. When there were positive tests, well more drug tests, ( more money in their pockets) occurred. These tampered results cost more than money, it cost families. Children were removed from their home. I am cash poor so to speak. My word against theirs. I don't have the money to go after that middle man lab. I have had no problems with Lab Corp or Affinity Labs.

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@pethmadness

See my previous more detailed posts but I would definitely take more than one test from different labs moving forward. Guessing you failed the fingerpick test from USDTL (test lab not necessarily who you took it with)? If so I would go somewhere that does the labcorp version (request a test being one). I would take both every time I was ask to test going forward.

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I wouldn't do another finger stick PEth test unless I had a venous draw done On the same day. I did that before. I went thru request a test who used labcorp.
If you have to have the finger stick tset, make sure all steps are followed. Inspect the packaging of the test. Make sure they don't use alcohol wipes and that if they use hand sanitizer before putting gloves on, that their hands are dry

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@sdambek

Hi I’m a physician in recovery. I completed a five year contract with my state for monitoring and now I voluntarily continue monitoring. In the past 6 years of sobriety I have had 2 PEth tests come back positive and I’m at a complete loss to understand how that is possible. I chew sugar free gum and drink diet sodas so I’m wondering if the “sugar alcohols “ can play a part? So much of the literature accepts the results of this test as true, but I know for sure in my case that it is wrong. Anyone have thoughts?

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Possibly leaky gut. Bacteria overgrowth

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H everyone!

I do know that Georgia Board of Nursing is now as of November 2019; has added to the testing of impaired nurses, and it doesn't matter if they don't have an alcohol problem or not. They are now handing down PEth testing for 2 years, along with hair follicle tests which are quarterly and urine drug screens too. Now with that being said, the peer assistance program makes us take 24 urine screens a year. Including the monthly PEth tests. So I am not sure if they don't trust the PEth tests or if they just want us so poor .
PEth tests are $130 to $176
Hair $85- 150
Urine $42.50- $ 58.50.
Weekly meetings $25-30
Monthly lab fees. $50.
So roughly it's $400 a month, none of which can be billed against insurance.
I am passionate about this. I had false positives and then they were adding more tests and another psych exam which was more money.
It is a soapbox of mine

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Thanks to what I’m learning here and able to advise others, and from what they read here…

Just watched real time where a THIRD person has a pos dried blood spot test of 59 on Friday, and a negative meaning less than 20 whole blood peth on Monday…

It appears as though Delta airlines has quit using dried blood spot peth tests… waiting for confirmation. If anyone knows of other organizations that have discontinued DBS peth, that would be useful.

It’s all bad, but possibly a step in the right direction.

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@genie862017

H everyone!

I do know that Georgia Board of Nursing is now as of November 2019; has added to the testing of impaired nurses, and it doesn't matter if they don't have an alcohol problem or not. They are now handing down PEth testing for 2 years, along with hair follicle tests which are quarterly and urine drug screens too. Now with that being said, the peer assistance program makes us take 24 urine screens a year. Including the monthly PEth tests. So I am not sure if they don't trust the PEth tests or if they just want us so poor .
PEth tests are $130 to $176
Hair $85- 150
Urine $42.50- $ 58.50.
Weekly meetings $25-30
Monthly lab fees. $50.
So roughly it's $400 a month, none of which can be billed against insurance.
I am passionate about this. I had false positives and then they were adding more tests and another psych exam which was more money.
It is a soapbox of mine

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Omg… that’s awful!

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