Being attacked by some negative ideas

Posted by aliali @aliali, Apr 23, 2022

I have depression. I am being attacked by the following ideas. I am afraid and anxious. This world is really terrifying. No one loves anyone in this world. I can sense that. When I deal with people working in restaurant or supermarket, I can sense how they are doing their job because they have to, not because they love their society. Okay, so why should I get anxious by this? Here it is; the product you receive whether it is from food industry or pharmaceutical industry or even you laptop of smartphone, you are not aware of the way it was manufactured and delivered to you. Probably food is not that clean; this makes me worry about my health and worry about that others don’t love me or anyone else. The clothes I am wearing currently, were they manufactured with care or not? Chemically manufactured stuff we are dealing with during our everyday life is manufactured from toxic chemicals. If these toxic chemicals are not removed properly then things will not be fine.
I really need help to get out of this loop

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@amberpep

Hi there .... my heart goes out to you with the heaviness you must feel carrying all these thoughts. Someone may have already said this, but are you in therapy? do you see a Psychiatrist for medication? It sounds to me (a total non-professional!!) that you're having an obsessive/compulsive thought pattern and once a negative "tape" starts in your brain, it just keeps going round and round. If you aren't getting help, please do consider it. I know the world is a mess in so many ways right now, but since there is so little we can do about much of it, we just need to take the best care of ourselves we can. I struggle with Depression, not OCD, but if it weren't for my therapist and my Psychiatrist who prescribes the right medications, I'm not sure I'd feel life was worth living anymore. Believe me ..... be kind to yourself and take care of "you."
Blessings,
Barb

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What a beautiful comment you gave.
Very thoughtful.

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@bjintn

Grouchy didn't deserve that name. But he lives on in his quote, right? You will see that I struggle with getting others quotes right but isn't there one also that says yesterday is gone; tomorrow isn't here yet; but TODAY is a present. Close enough and I must go open my present day 😎🤔

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Thanks I appreciate your advice, it’s interesting because just yesterday my doctor told me that my cortisol level is high and that I need to be in healing mode, practice mindfulness, meditation, etc I guess this is my wake up call. Chronic stress and trauma can do this. I always exercised eat healthy but I didn’t realize how this unresolved stress can be so damaging to my body and mind.

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@antonieta71

Thanks I appreciate your advice, it’s interesting because just yesterday my doctor told me that my cortisol level is high and that I need to be in healing mode, practice mindfulness, meditation, etc I guess this is my wake up call. Chronic stress and trauma can do this. I always exercised eat healthy but I didn’t realize how this unresolved stress can be so damaging to my body and mind.

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How do I practice mindfulness?

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I too struggle with anxiety, depression, PTSD (from a past domestic violence situation). I actually had anxiety before my diagnosis. And it is 10x worst now. I was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer on Jan19, 2022.):

I was previously on Prozac. Started off at 20 mg and now I am on 60 mg. It has helped. My palliative care nurse just added a low dosage of Lorazepam. Of course they come with side effects. But not too much for me to manage. But I am also on my 8th round of chemotherapy.

Some of the things that I do outside of medication is: mindfulness, sitting outside with nature, grounding, meditation, box breathing and just being still. Some times sitting in the moment and finding 5 things to be grateful for can boost your spirits.
Having a great personal support group is wonderful and essential as well. I hope you find your peace as you go through.

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@my46th

How do I practice mindfulness?

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A Psalm of David.
27 The Lord is my light and my salvation;
Whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the strength of my life;
Of whom shall I be afraid?
2 When the wicked came against me
To eat[a] up my flesh,
My enemies and foes,
They stumbled and fell.
3 Though an army may encamp against me,
My heart shall not fear;
Though war may rise against me,
In this I will be confident.

4 One thing I have desired of the Lord,
That will I seek:
That I may dwell in the house of the Lord
All the days of my life,
To behold the [b]beauty of the Lord,
And to inquire in His temple.
5 For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.

6 And now my head shall be [c]lifted up above my enemies all around me;
Therefore I will offer sacrifices of [d]joy in His tabernacle;
I will sing, yes, I will sing praises to the Lord.

7 Hear, O Lord, when I cry with my voice!
Have mercy also upon me, and answer me.
8 When You said, “Seek My face,”
My heart said to You, “Your face, Lord, I will seek.”
9 Do not hide Your face from me;
Do not turn Your servant away in anger;
You have been my help;
Do not leave me nor forsake me,
O God of my salvation.
10 When my father and my mother forsake me,
Then the Lord will take care of me.

11 Teach me Your way, O Lord,
And lead me in a smooth path, because of my enemies.
12 Do not deliver me to the will of my adversaries;
For false witnesses have risen against me,
And such as breathe out violence.
13 I would have lost heart, unless I had believed
That I would see the goodness of the Lord
In the land of the living.

14 Wait[e] on the Lord;
Be of good courage,
And He shall strengthen your heart;
Wait, I say, on the Lord!

Peace and prayers.

Join a group in you vicinity.
It's always helpful to be with others who have challenges.

I recently join a support group at Saint Thomas More catholic church. The Name for the group is The Sanctuary Catholic. You can access information on their website just to get an idea of what it's about. Then perhaps if it interest you -you can look up groups you live near by.

Blessings to you

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@my46th

How do I practice mindfulness?

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@my46th, there is a blog dedicated to mindfulness here on Mayo Clinic Connect. Check it out here:
- Health & Mindfulness https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/mindfulness-in-health/

Be sure to check out the videos too here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/mindfulness-in-health/tab/resources/#ch-tab-navigation

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One of the biggest mistakes people with anxiety and depression make is the choice not to try medications. I was that person as stoicism was what my family taught and practiced. But that didn't work and I had two young children that needed a good mother. I thought, "What the heck!". And I saw a psychiatrist and got on meds. It took months to find the right ones but with the doctor's support and encouragement I finally began to feel better. I've had ups and downs since. That's life for me. I do encourage anyone with persistent depression/anxiety to give meds a try.

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“GOD, grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can; and the Wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; enjoying one moment at a time; accepting hardship as the pathway to peace. Taking, as He did, this sinful world as it is, not as I would have it. Trusting that He will make all things right if I surrender to His will; and that I may be reasonable happy in this life, and supremely happy with Him in the next. Amen.”

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@antonieta71

I feel a sense of doom every morning for the past few weeks, it gets better as the day goes on but it’s hard to start a new day like that, plus then I feel ungrateful for not being happy to be alive in the morning. I know for a fact other people have it much harder than I do but that still it doesn't help me, I’m praying, and trying to take care of myself more but my anxiety makes it hard to relax and enjoy the moment. I don’t want to upset or bring others down by sharing my thoughts so I just try to go on.

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@antonieta71 I have been feeling exactly the same as you! I think the past two years of the pandemic haven’t helped, either.

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@cmd

Glad you found your calling with the “little books”. I’ve been so desperate for sleep, I didn’t focus on why I wasn’t sleeping. Before Covid slept well 7-8 hours. Last night I fell asleep ((about two hours)but woke up and couldn’t get back to sleep. Then anxiety kicked in and I had to take a hypnotic. My issue is not fibro ( sorry to hear you have it) I just don’t sleep or if by the rarest chance I do it is short lived. I’m very desperate, tired and feeling I’ll never get better. I don’t want to be a “Debbie downer” so I’ll stop going on and on. Thanks for reaching out, I appreciate your effort and time.

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@bjintn and @cmd - I have fibromyalgia and sleep deprivation, anxiety making it harder to go back to sleep when I wake up every two or three hours, so I can relate to both of you.

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