7% Saline Solution

Posted by thumperguy @thumperguy, Jan 7, 2020

Got a supply of 7% vials and got a real jolt in my throat when I began inhaling it. However I quickly adapted to it and was able to finish the vial. Within a few minutes I was coughing and bringing stuff up – a first. I never had a timely response to 0.9. Bottom line: I guess the 7% solution is…well the real solution. Not to be confused with the Sherlock and Sigmund thing. Forgive my corny effort at mirth. Don

@sueinmn

@migizii. I order in quantity of 5, so had to go look it up to see if it is still available. I use this one with or without my Aerobika attached: https://www.directhomemedical.com/vixone-reusable-nebulizer-devilbiss-900d-610.html
I keep a few of these on hand in case I need to lend my neb to someone. Also use this type & toss after getting well if I have a cold or other illness: https://www.directhomemedical.com/vixone-disposable-nebulizer-devilbiss-3655d-621.html
This is the same company where I got my portable (battery operated) nebulizer (battery sold separately at additional cost of $40) https://www.directhomemedical.com/6910p-dr-traveler-portable-compressor-nebulizer.html
I hope this helps.
Sue

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Thanks so much for the information! It will certainly come in handy!

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@cynthiajewell7

Thank you so much for that info. I have never washed my tubing nor ever read about doing that and didn’t know the tubing could be cleaned. I will start doing that because it has been a concern of mine. I am so careful to disinfect the nebulizer but have never cleaned the tubing. I appreciate your help.

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@cynthiajewell7 Hi, I think the tubing itself is supposed to be thrown away. Then, clean the cup and mouthpiece after each use.

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@kathyhg

Thanks for your message – I’m trying 7% saline in my nebulizer when I finish my 3% and I’ll know that I can expect it to bother my throat. I’m glad to hear it worked so well. I’ve used 3% for a few months and it usually makes me cough up stuff but not as much or as often as it should.

Have people had other side effects from the 7% saline?

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@kathyhg Hi Kathy. I am so used to the 7% saline now that it rarely makes me cough. I have never had any issue with using it.

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@windwalker

@cynthiajewell7 Hi, I think the tubing itself is supposed to be thrown away. Then, clean the cup and mouthpiece after each use.

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Thank you Kathy. My cups and tubing come together so I never have extra tubing. Do you have a location that sells tubing only? I am at Mayo right now getting ready for a bronchoscopy. This place is amazing!!!

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@cynthiajewell7

Thank you Kathy. My cups and tubing come together so I never have extra tubing. Do you have a location that sells tubing only? I am at Mayo right now getting ready for a bronchoscopy. This place is amazing!!!

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@cynthiajewell7 Direct Home Medical also sells tubing alone, if it's not on the Web Site you may need to call them.

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@sueinmn

@cynthiajewell7 Direct Home Medical also sells tubing alone, if it's not on the Web Site you may need to call them.

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Thank you again😊

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@chattey2

Do you dose with 7 twice or once a day? I was told that the benefit of 3% was that could be used twice a day. It certainly empties me.

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Seven percent twice a day here Chattey.

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Thumperguy, do you nebulize albuterol before the 7% saline or will it work just as well with out using albuterol?

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@cynthiajewell Not thumperguy, but I neb either way depending…If the asthma is bothering, or I have a cough or cold, I neb first with levalbuterol (similar to albuterol) and them with the saline. If not, just 7% saline. Sometimes I use the Aerobika with the saline if the saline alone doesn't provoke a lung-clearing bout of coughing. Sometimes I use just the saline, and if later I feel there is still stuff to cough up I use the Aerobika alone. Have you talked to your doc or respiratory therapist about their recommendations for you? How each of us does things all depends on our specific cases – how severe, how easy/difficult it is to clear our lungs, maybe even other conditions. For example, my daughter has had vocal cord hemorrhages, no 7% saline for her according to her docs. Sue

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@cynthiajewell7

Thumperguy, do you nebulize albuterol before the 7% saline or will it work just as well with out using albuterol?

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Cynthia, don't know if it works as well w/o albuterol, but I've never used it. It's never been mentioned by either of two pulmo docs I've seen over time. Don

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@cynthiajewell7

Thumperguy, do you nebulize albuterol before the 7% saline or will it work just as well with out using albuterol?

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Cynthia, your question pulled my "talkie cord", resulting in the following. This is a letter I just sent to a brother-in-law who also deals with lung problems, I think Bronch.

Like you I'm a customer of a pulmonologist. Also like you I'm noticing gradually increasing shortness of breath. Diagnosed with both bronchiecstasis as well as myco avium complex (MAC). For over two years I've been using a Respirtec Percussion Vest airway clearing device (aka my Thumper). I do it twice daily along with saline inhalation at the same time using a nebulizer. Currently using 4 ml. of a 7% strength saline. For most of the 2 plus years I've been at it, I was using a much weaker 0.09% strength simply because the pulmo doc started me on and, upon his departure, it's what his replacement continued. My naivete remained constant unitl I discovered the Mayo Clinic "Connect" discussion forums, one of which is focused on Bronch and Mac. There I discovered that saline is available in higher strengths to wit: 3% and 7%. I soon wrote a detailed letter to my Pulmo doc and he agreed with my rationale for Rx'ing the 7% concentration. The rationale: in addition to bringing up impressively more mucous, I've learned that the 7% solution is capable of actually killing bacterial lung infections.

I'm hoping my "beefed-up" regimen will result in something tangible like less frequent flare-ups; a flare-up being defined as beginning to run a fever (which makes me feel unmistakably sick) and enduring another round of antibiotic treatment to put things right at the presumed cost of decimating the microbial health of my gut. For the past many years I've not been able to get past the 5 month mark before I get the chills and sweats again, but I'm determined to improve that routine.

This experience over the past several months has impressed me with the virtue of educating myself about the vagaries of my ailments. I've found the Mayo Clinic forum very helpful in achieving a modicum of knowledge.

In Health, brudder

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Don, I also use a percussion vest, mine is the SmartVest and I think it helps. I know they make a 9% sodium chloride and I ask my doctor about prescribing it but she would not but didn’t state why. Some people make their own saline but I am afraid I would not have everything sterile enough. I make fermented water and milk kefir and fermented vegetables to help restore the good bacteria in my gut because I take antibiotics the first ten days of every month to try to keep the bugs beat down but I still have bad flare ups several times a year. It is so nice to have people to discuss our issues with that really understand. Thanks for your response.

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