7% Saline Solution

Posted by thumperguy @thumperguy, Jan 7, 2020

Got a supply of 7% vials and got a real jolt in my throat when I began inhaling it. However I quickly adapted to it and was able to finish the vial. Within a few minutes I was coughing and bringing stuff up – a first. I never had a timely response to 0.9. Bottom line: I guess the 7% solution is…well the real solution. Not to be confused with the Sherlock and Sigmund thing. Forgive my corny effort at mirth. Don

Thanks for the article. If 7% actually kills it, what does 3% do if anything?

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@poodledoc

Very interesting article. Thanks for posting. So it appears MAC can actually be killed by the 7% saline.

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@poodledoc Hi. I had read an article back in 2010 that the 7% saline was being used successfully in France to treat mac. I asked my pulmonologists in Tucson, Az about it and they said they had never heard of it and did not prescribe it for me. Then in 2013, I mentioned it to my Mayo dr and he said "Oh yeah, that is a fabulous idea, lets try it." After seeing the good results in me, I think he started to use it more and more. When I first started mentoring this group here; hardly anyone was being treated with the saline. If I had to guess, I'd say most of us are now, and most say they are doing better by using it. When we know better, we do better. *Saline treatment is not ideal for everyone. Patients with severely abscessed or very fragile lungs are not candidates for use.

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@windwalker

@poodledoc Hi. I had read an article back in 2010 that the 7% saline was being used successfully in France to treat mac. I asked my pulmonologists in Tucson, Az about it and they said they had never heard of it and did not prescribe it for me. Then in 2013, I mentioned it to my Mayo dr and he said "Oh yeah, that is a fabulous idea, lets try it." After seeing the good results in me, I think he started to use it more and more. When I first started mentoring this group here; hardly anyone was being treated with the saline. If I had to guess, I'd say most of us are now, and most say they are doing better by using it. When we know better, we do better. *Saline treatment is not ideal for everyone. Patients with severely abscessed or very fragile lungs are not candidates for use.

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@windwalker If it wasn't for you my Dr wouldn't have put me on it when she did, now she recommends it, thanks Terri!!!!!!!!

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@windwalker

@poodledoc Hi. I had read an article back in 2010 that the 7% saline was being used successfully in France to treat mac. I asked my pulmonologists in Tucson, Az about it and they said they had never heard of it and did not prescribe it for me. Then in 2013, I mentioned it to my Mayo dr and he said "Oh yeah, that is a fabulous idea, lets try it." After seeing the good results in me, I think he started to use it more and more. When I first started mentoring this group here; hardly anyone was being treated with the saline. If I had to guess, I'd say most of us are now, and most say they are doing better by using it. When we know better, we do better. *Saline treatment is not ideal for everyone. Patients with severely abscessed or very fragile lungs are not candidates for use.

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@windwalker.. you are my go to source for so many things including nebulizing. I would not have known if not for you and this site. I have a lot to be grateful for. 🙏 Thank you!! Kate

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@windwalker

@poodledoc Hi. I had read an article back in 2010 that the 7% saline was being used successfully in France to treat mac. I asked my pulmonologists in Tucson, Az about it and they said they had never heard of it and did not prescribe it for me. Then in 2013, I mentioned it to my Mayo dr and he said "Oh yeah, that is a fabulous idea, lets try it." After seeing the good results in me, I think he started to use it more and more. When I first started mentoring this group here; hardly anyone was being treated with the saline. If I had to guess, I'd say most of us are now, and most say they are doing better by using it. When we know better, we do better. *Saline treatment is not ideal for everyone. Patients with severely abscessed or very fragile lungs are not candidates for use.

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@windwalker I was treated by 2 different docs in the same practice, one refused to prescribe 7% saline, the other said "Oh, yes – it's good for keeping MAC from growing again" (I just got off the Big3.) Doc #1 had me on Breo, which was causing horrible irritation and loss of voice, Doc #2 switched me back to Flovent with Levalbuterol as a backup, both of which I knew I could tolerate. She said she would look for something else, but so far, with the saline it's enough.
When I told my daughter, an RN and an asthma/bronch patient herself, she said, "Well he (Doc #1) doesn't play well with others and doesn't take suggestions from anyone." Turns out she quit him a few years earlier…

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@windwalker

@poodledoc Hi. I had read an article back in 2010 that the 7% saline was being used successfully in France to treat mac. I asked my pulmonologists in Tucson, Az about it and they said they had never heard of it and did not prescribe it for me. Then in 2013, I mentioned it to my Mayo dr and he said "Oh yeah, that is a fabulous idea, lets try it." After seeing the good results in me, I think he started to use it more and more. When I first started mentoring this group here; hardly anyone was being treated with the saline. If I had to guess, I'd say most of us are now, and most say they are doing better by using it. When we know better, we do better. *Saline treatment is not ideal for everyone. Patients with severely abscessed or very fragile lungs are not candidates for use.

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Yes, if it wasn't for this group I wouldn't of asked my doctor to start me on the saline solution. He didn't even a bat an eye and agreed.

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Same here @ tiinasims…if it hadn't been for this group I would have never known about the saline solution. And one of the other most invaluable things I ever learned from here and that was from Katherine (sp?) and she taught us about being your own advocate in your journey with doctors. I can't tell you what that taught me. It first taught me to ask my first pulmonologist for saline even though he looked at me kinda crosse-eyed, so I pushed him for it and got it. And then I asked my second pulmonologist for something that was alternative and he gave me the same look so I found a functional medicine doctor and got what I want. And a good friend of mine who is probably 85 and has had bronchiectasis for years finally got 7% solution after using 3% forever and I saw her at the gym and she looked like a new person. She said she couldn't believe how much stuff she got up with the 7%. And that was because of telling her what I learned here!! There's all these smart people on here and I can't name them all but Terri (@windwalker) is a fount of information and has been for years. I would like to thank all you smart people for your knowledge and you know who you are. Nannette (Nan)

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I am also so grateful for this forum and the education I’ve received here.
Many thanks!

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@nannette

Same here @ tiinasims…if it hadn't been for this group I would have never known about the saline solution. And one of the other most invaluable things I ever learned from here and that was from Katherine (sp?) and she taught us about being your own advocate in your journey with doctors. I can't tell you what that taught me. It first taught me to ask my first pulmonologist for saline even though he looked at me kinda crosse-eyed, so I pushed him for it and got it. And then I asked my second pulmonologist for something that was alternative and he gave me the same look so I found a functional medicine doctor and got what I want. And a good friend of mine who is probably 85 and has had bronchiectasis for years finally got 7% solution after using 3% forever and I saw her at the gym and she looked like a new person. She said she couldn't believe how much stuff she got up with the 7%. And that was because of telling her what I learned here!! There's all these smart people on here and I can't name them all but Terri (@windwalker) is a fount of information and has been for years. I would like to thank all you smart people for your knowledge and you know who you are. Nannette (Nan)

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Yes, yes. I also learned that saline solution comes in strengths other than the relatively impotent 0.9 that I'd been using forever. When I pushed the pulmo to Rx. 7% I got the sense he must have researched it a bit as he seemed to become more enthusiastic in the process of Rx'ing it for me. Don

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Windwalker, isn't Flovent a steroid? My doctor has me on Ventolin as opposed to Flovent because of that reason. He said using any steroid is like throwing gasoline on a fire ( for the MAC ). I, also, am on the Big 3. I'm just curious. Additionally, I see y'all writing about saline solutions 7%….. can anyone tell me what that's all about? How do you use it and what is the purpose? Thank you all for your dedication to helping others ! Toni

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@esssbeee

For me, the 3% version does the job!

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Does it take awhile for the 3% to work. So far I’ve had no luck.

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@toni1132

Windwalker, isn't Flovent a steroid? My doctor has me on Ventolin as opposed to Flovent because of that reason. He said using any steroid is like throwing gasoline on a fire ( for the MAC ). I, also, am on the Big 3. I'm just curious. Additionally, I see y'all writing about saline solutions 7%….. can anyone tell me what that's all about? How do you use it and what is the purpose? Thank you all for your dedication to helping others ! Toni

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@toni1132 Toni – I think it depends what you want to accomplish with the saline. If it is to create a productive cough and. 3% works, go for it. If you are trying to keep MACat bay, research seems to show you need 7%, so that's what you would choose. I had not heard of the negative connection between flovent and bronch, guess it's time for some reading.

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