Grover's Disease tied to Shinglix Vaccine

Posted by gardeningjunkie @gardeningjunkie, Jan 14, 2020

A member of the Grover's Disease, GD, discussion questioned if he could have acquired GD from his Shingles Vaccine as he began having GD symptoms after the shot. It made me realize my last outbreak began 3 days after my Shinglix vaccine shot. I read nothing about this on the literature for this shot I studied on the internet. I saw my dermatologist yesterday to ask if there was a tie in and he said, "Yes, 100% this vaccine can initiate or cause GD symptoms to return". For those not familiar with GD look it up. It is an intensely itching and painful torso rash that comes and goes for life. The collagen in the skin is changed. I can't believe Shingles is any more miserable. I so wished I had checked with my dermatologist first. Presently a prescription is not needed for this shot and can be given at any pharmacy which has it in stock. I also did not read anything on all the pages I signed warning me that it could trigger this disease before I got this shot at Sam's Club. My dermatologist is Jonathan Bellew, DO of the Mohave Skin and Cancer Center in Arizona and Nevada.

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@nodgabnoj

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Thanks very much. I will give it a shot. I also did some digging in the net and found references to collagen optimization/maintenance. As we age we lose our natural ability to maintain proper collagen levels, which affects skin elasticity and hydration, among other things. I am going to try a supplement for a while and see if that helps.

Another tidbit that I need to look deeper into alleged that as chicken pox was eradicated, shingles incidents grew. The idea was that rather than get the shingles vaccine, find someone with chicken pox and get that infection. The two viruses are related and antibodies from chicken pox may prevent shingles, the writer thought. Too late now for me, but worth some effort for my kids and theirs if it pans out.

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Interesting thought, I did have chicken pox as a child so that might be part of the reason I have GD. I am pretty sure that the Shingrix vaccine was the motivation for it.

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Post your reactions to Shingrix vaccine on vaers.hhs.gov. That goes for all of you on this thread. It’s the only way your voices have any hope of being heard. Complaining to your doctors, drug companies, anyone else is a waste of time.

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@nodgabnoj

Interesting thought, I did have chicken pox as a child so that might be part of the reason I have GD. I am pretty sure that the Shingrix vaccine was the motivation for it.

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Shingles is caused by the chicken pox vaccine that lays dormant in your spine and later can cause shingles. It’s the same exact virus. Not related to, the same virus. Like with herpes 1&2, it lays dormant until it re-emerges. That’s why whenever your immune system is compromised, you’re more likely to get an outbreak.

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Thank you Babbs. I had always thought there was a link, but was never sure( I don’t do much research). So the Shingrix vaccine just allowed the small pox to emerge as GD, I guess.

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@nodgabnoj

Thank you Babbs. I had always thought there was a link, but was never sure( I don’t do much research). So the Shingrix vaccine just allowed the small pox to emerge as GD, I guess.

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To others reading this post - FYI....I was vaccinated for shingles with ZOSTAVAX 4 years ago,(Herpes zoster = Shingles), and my GD started seriously about 3 months later. Be aware if you are offered Zostavax instead of Shingrix.

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@johnfraser

So glad you have written this as my GD arrived after having the shingles vaccination I have found 2 creams that reduce the itch 1 Sorbolene cream 2 Peppermint based anti inflammatory cream

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Thank you for sharing this as my PCP is encouraging me to get shingrix and having battled this horrible grovers for 3 years I can’t risk further flare ups. It’s popping up now on my legs hip and feet in strange places. The only thing that works is strong steroid cream but that has side effects.
I’m also trying collagen supplements.
The brutal heat is another problem as I’m very sensitive. Sorry to complain so much but this group understands our situation.

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@help4meandu

Thank you for sharing this as my PCP is encouraging me to get shingrix and having battled this horrible grovers for 3 years I can’t risk further flare ups. It’s popping up now on my legs hip and feet in strange places. The only thing that works is strong steroid cream but that has side effects.
I’m also trying collagen supplements.
The brutal heat is another problem as I’m very sensitive. Sorry to complain so much but this group understands our situation.

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No reason to apologize. GD is insufferable.

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@nodgabnoj

Thank you Babbs. I had always thought there was a link, but was never sure( I don’t do much research). So the Shingrix vaccine just allowed the small pox to emerge as GD, I guess.

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Well, not exactly. I'm assuming you meant chicken pox and not smallpox. But, that aside, we don't know what the connection is between the Shingrix vaccine and GD. It may not be directly related to the chicken pox virus (although at my worst, I sure looked like I had the worst case of chicken pox ever.) We just don't know. Only that many of us got GD after the vaccine. There could even be the coincidence that our age group is more likely to get the vaccine and GD. Until it's studied, we won't know. There are studies regarding rashes, eczema and atopic dematoses following vaccinations of various sorts. Cause and effect hasn't been established. Perhaps if your dermatologists who do believe there is a causal link would at least publish case studies it might spur more research.

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Did I say small pox ? If I did it was a mistake. I am not steeped in science. For me, as well as others it appears, it was cause and effect. I got the shot and then I got GD. Never a symptom before the shots. It just seems too coincidental that so many people on this site had similar reactions. The Shingrix may not have been the cause but may very well have been the factor that prompted it to rear its ugly head.

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