Insomnia

Posted by beckystahl @beckystahl, May 7, 2025

My husband had both of his hips replaced in 2021. He has been suffering with severe chronic insomnia ever since then.
Is there anybody out there that has struggled with this.
It is totally crippling him and robbing him of life.

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But you could take it other times if you wake up in the early am. I try not to take it close to when I took the Mag Glycinate at bedtime. I thought best to spread out the times when I take those supplements. Remember, this is based on my experiences with insomnia and my medications. Everyone is different so you may need to experiment with what works best for you. I am no medical professional. But I have had them suggested to me by a nutritionist.

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@stevej940
Taking 3 types of Magnesium. I understood that the one you mention was if you wake up in the middle of the night (?)

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@stevej940
Taking 3 types of Magnesium. I understood that the one you mention was if you wake up in the middle of the night (?)

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@dennismm I only take two types of magnesium. I take magnesium Threonate plus glycine if I wake up in the middle of the night. I take the magnesium glycinate about an hour before bed.

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I am a total mess and totally out of it! My Apple days. I sleep 1 3/4 hours or 2.3 hours every night FOR 2 MONTHS!I literally can’t even walk around and DRS. Said no driving.Saw 4 Drs 4 different meds, and new one Zalpolon does nothing:ZalpalonValium 2mgDoxepin 5mgTemazapamHaven’t slept for than 2 hours every night got almost 2 months and I’m “totally out of it!”SawPsychiatristNeurologistPulmonologistThis has now become very serious as I can noLonger function on 1-2 hours every night at least that’s what Apple Watch says!!

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Does anyone take Amitrptyline to help sleep?

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I am a total mess and totally out of it! My Apple days. I sleep 1 3/4 hours or 2.3 hours every night FOR 2 MONTHS!I literally can’t even walk around and DRS. Said no driving.Saw 4 Drs 4 different meds, and new one Zalpolon does nothing:ZalpalonValium 2mgDoxepin 5mgTemazapamHaven’t slept for than 2 hours every night got almost 2 months and I’m “totally out of it!”SawPsychiatristNeurologistPulmonologistThis has now become very serious as I can noLonger function on 1-2 hours every night at least that’s what Apple Watch says!!

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My comment will be a weird and a long one but here goes. People who wear "wearables" from rings to watches seems to me it's a problem. I remember wearing a Fitbit and it said you woke up 7 times, LOL no I didn't. Quality of sleep is not measured electronically it 's measured by how you feel. So here this watch is saying you slept horribly so guess what? Now you're going to be fixated on it and more than likely its going create that viscous cycle.
Have you heard of sleep hygiene? It's a evening routine that works for you to get you sleepy and ready for bed. Mine is the kitchen is "closed" meaning it's clean and ready for the morning by 8 pm, the only light is a small lamp in the den, the dogs with me, tv on no violent shows, no news, maybe a comedy or documentary etc. but something peaceful and happy. 10:00 I take my claritin for allergies and krill oil and sometimes a magnesium glycinate and at 10:30 I'm headed to bed, lights out no freaking computers, phones or horrible wearable anywhere in sight. And a bed that makes dreams come true! 4-5 cotton blankets, Italian sheets, down mattress topper, coverlet and my dogs next to me. I also sleep in an incredibly cold room, 62 degrees. I wake up at 8ish sometimes 7ish no alarm clocks. Go to bed sleepy and say ahhhh this feels so good and I'm cold brrrrr and think of how cozy you are under the blankets...your pups breathing, flowers in fields, laying on the beach and how warm your skin feels but the cool breeze......and you'll be asleep.

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My comment will be a weird and a long one but here goes. People who wear "wearables" from rings to watches seems to me it's a problem. I remember wearing a Fitbit and it said you woke up 7 times, LOL no I didn't. Quality of sleep is not measured electronically it 's measured by how you feel. So here this watch is saying you slept horribly so guess what? Now you're going to be fixated on it and more than likely its going create that viscous cycle.
Have you heard of sleep hygiene? It's a evening routine that works for you to get you sleepy and ready for bed. Mine is the kitchen is "closed" meaning it's clean and ready for the morning by 8 pm, the only light is a small lamp in the den, the dogs with me, tv on no violent shows, no news, maybe a comedy or documentary etc. but something peaceful and happy. 10:00 I take my claritin for allergies and krill oil and sometimes a magnesium glycinate and at 10:30 I'm headed to bed, lights out no freaking computers, phones or horrible wearable anywhere in sight. And a bed that makes dreams come true! 4-5 cotton blankets, Italian sheets, down mattress topper, coverlet and my dogs next to me. I also sleep in an incredibly cold room, 62 degrees. I wake up at 8ish sometimes 7ish no alarm clocks. Go to bed sleepy and say ahhhh this feels so good and I'm cold brrrrr and think of how cozy you are under the blankets...your pups breathing, flowers in fields, laying on the beach and how warm your skin feels but the cool breeze......and you'll be asleep.

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Hi thanks for taking the time to answer me.
FYI I am not using my Applewatch. The hospital put an EEG on my head which reads my sleep patterns,
FYI:
My new mandated sleep pattern:
Up and out of bed every morning at 6;00 AM all lights on, all shades open

Next, sleep, 12;00 Midnight, turn off phones and TV 11:30 PM
Will see how it goes,

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@gigipatula
Hi thanks for taking the time to answer me.
FYI I am not using my Applewatch. The hospital put an EEG on my head which reads my sleep patterns,
FYI:
My new mandated sleep pattern:
Up and out of bed every morning at 6;00 AM all lights on, all shades open

Next, sleep, 12;00 Midnight, turn off phones and TV 11:30 PM
Will see how it goes,

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@dennismm good luck!!

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@gigipatula
Hi thanks for taking the time to answer me.
FYI I am not using my Applewatch. The hospital put an EEG on my head which reads my sleep patterns,
FYI:
My new mandated sleep pattern:
Up and out of bed every morning at 6;00 AM all lights on, all shades open

Next, sleep, 12;00 Midnight, turn off phones and TV 11:30 PM
Will see how it goes,

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@dennismm it takes time to adjust to a routine, but I'm routing for you!!!! you got this 🙂

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@dennismm it takes time to adjust to a routine, but I'm routing for you!!!! you got this 🙂

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@gigipatula
Thanks I hope you’re right!!

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My 85 year old wife has lately suffered from extreme insomnia, now over 4 weeks if you can believe 1
Doctor prescribed Lunesta finally....backfired....no sleep. Also severe breathing problems at 3:00 am.
Terrifying scare for her. Dr. next prescribed Seroquel but packaging warned in BIG BOLD letters ...
DANGEROUS TO ELDERLY, COULD BE FATAL !!! Needless to say after her previous experience, no way was she going to take it. Dr. next prescribed Trazodone. No sleep ... made her jumpy....
What are we to do ? Ideas, please We're desperate! God bless, Bruce

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Has she tried over the counter Melatonin? For some years after surgeries I could not get more than about 1 1/2 hours of sleep before waking up. Sometimes I could get back to sleep, other times not. Last fall I finally decided to try 5mg of Melatonin before bed. Although I still only got about 3 hours of sleep in a session, it was a deeper, better quality of sleep. And I was able to fall asleep again for another few hours. I took it every night for a couple of months til I felt I had established a better sleep pattern, then went off it and my sleep has remained better. If I have an active day, I may sleep up to four hours in a row upon falling asleep at night.

The other reason sleep may be hard is excessive anxiety, there can be lots to worry about regarding personal health, family problems, state of the world today etc. I don’t do well with most antidepressants, but found that 1/2 of a 0.5 mg tablet of Clonazepam relaxes me enough so that I can let go of excessive worry. My doctor only prescribes for 5 tablets at a time, since they are so fussy about addiction. I don’t need a whole tablet, that makes me too woozy. So I cut them in half, I get 10 doses, which will last me for at least 6 months. I only take them if I think I am having an anxiety attack I can’t handle on it’s own.

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