Dealing with adult son with mental health: Parents want to share?

Posted by briarrose @briarrose, Oct 6, 2024

My 39 y. o. son suffered 2 major losses since April 2022 & has never been the same since. He is under the care of a psychiatrist & taking trintellix & adderall which are not helping. Gradually he became more & more isolated and suspicious of all - including his parents. His therapist for 2 years recently started a new position so he has none. And not interested in getting another. I believe he checks off almost every symptom of Paranoid Personality Disorder. I live in the east, he's in the midwest, not married, living alone. I must walk on egg shells with him, an innocent remark becomes an argument. He is never wrong, but everyone else is. Recently we had a blow up over the phone, he didn't like the way I asked him a question, saying I was "abusive"...he now refuses to have any contact with me. He is my only child, our entire lives we have always been so close. His Dad & I are divorced for 17 years. His relationship with him, worse than mine. Hasn't seen him in 1 yr. I am so depressed & heart-broken. I have reached out kindly to him since the blow up & no response. I can't talk to his psychiatrist due to HIPPA laws but thought I could...but he can not talk to me about him. His mental health clinic will not allow it. He did a complete 360 with his life, unrecognizable to everyone who knew & loves him. He is very paranoid. I don't know what to do - how to help him and the longer he doesn't contact me the worse it will be.
This is impacting my entire life...I am 69 y.o. and so very sad my beautiful son has now developed this truly awful personality disorder.
Any thoughts from other Moms going thru this, greatly appreciated.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Mental Health Support Group.

Profile picture for renee8466 @renee8466

The past month has been especially rough. He has been manic and raging one day and crying and depressed the next. He has been very attached to me, demanding my undivided attention. He came into my room while I was watching a movie, brought his blanket and a video game and basically wanted to lay all over me like a child. After about the 10th time he had asked me what he could eat and rejecting all of my suggestions I finally said "I don't know, you've been whining and complaining for the last hour. You figure it out.' Then he started crying, saying that he was just trying to hang out with me. I tried to apologize and offer to go to the kitchen and make him some food, but by then the raging and screaming started. I blew it by engaging in the argument. I said something like you're 24 years old stop acting like a child, and he turned that into I don't love him anymore, don't want his hugs, and have broken his heart into a million pieces that can never be repaired. For 30 minutes he screamed about what a terrible person I am and has now gone to his room not speaking to me. I texted him a formal apology taking full responsibility for what I said. I feel like crap! All because I wanted to finish a movie. 😔

Jump to this post

Hello @renee8466, I would like to add my welcome along with @dlydailyhope and others. I'm sorry to say that I have had similar experiences with my son who is now 55 but doing much better than those early years, mainly because his treatments have changed for the better over the years and he is now much better. What helped my wife and I during those tough years that you are now experiencing was finding a local support group where we could talk with other parents going through similar experiences. The National Alliance for Mental Illness (NAMI) has some information on finding support that I think could be helpful for you and your son - https://www.nami.org/support-education/support-groups/.

Have you thought about talking with his doctors or care team for suggestions, or trying to find a local support group?

REPLY
Profile picture for bellsback @bellsback

So sorry. I understand completely. The ache, the never knowing if it will ever be ok. My son is staying with a friend thousands of miles from me. Or, that is what I think. I honestly don’t know anything for sure. His last visit here was strange. He isn’t my son mentally. He’s like an angry stranger. I’m not seeing any future with him … not like we were. Why? Why my baby? I know it’s not his fault. My husband and daughter are angry with him. He has no control over these thoughts. God help him. God help us all. I hurt with you riverbendab. No one can understand this pain unless you have lived it.

Jump to this post

I find I shut down when people just get so angry at HIM.

You are right, they have no control over their thoughts and actions. If they could understand getting help would give them that control

REPLY
Profile picture for briarrose @briarrose

I am not happy at all seeing other Moms going through what I am. But it makes me feel not so alone.
I believe he is abusing prescription drugs...and is getting more from an other physician who is in Canada. My son lived there for 3 years before moving to the mid-west in the states. I found old prescriptions from 2024 and pharmacy bags with the names of a couple of amphetamines - all from Canada when visiting me. Yes, I snooped. So, he smartly has 2 medical providers prescribing the same drugs. The prescription bags had his old Canadian address on them as well as the sessions he had with his Canadian provider. I knew he was abusing...but thought he was getting them from the dark web or even from a supplier who might live in his condo. I never thought he was using his old psychiatrist or PCP from Canada and this doctor and the pharmacy simply think he is still living in Canada. He gets a 6 month supply...I thought "how does he pick up these drugs?" I figured out he simply flies there (not a long trip) or even drives there...he must pick them up personally and uses cash. I found 4 pharmacy bags with prices. He is actually paying about $1600 for these drugs at a clip to avoid insurance and credit cards charges. Pretty slick, right? I am beyond heartbroken but I know from previous talks (before I knew about Canada) he does not want to give up these drugs. He is visiting me right now. In the mornings clearly he has crashed. Refuses to speak to me and hides in his bedroom, often complains of headaches. By late afternoon he is animated, laughing and talking. But I can see he is still not himself. As a loving Mom I can not let this go. But how to confront him? His father, my ex is totally useless. He has a severe personality disorder and says he will do this & that to help him - and always always does nothing. He lives in the South. I know my son will explore when I talk to him...thinking of writing a letter to him. He sees a therapist periodically but b/c of his addition - misses a lot of sessions. This is about his 6th therapist since moving to the mid-west 3 years ago. Yes, he had 2 major traumas...and went down the rabbit hole and turned to drugs to self-medicate. I thought he had the strength to pick himself up despite it all and make choices to improve his life. No, we went the other way. He is a debating and argues with me on every point. He should have been a lawyer. He can twist everything around to NOT make anything his fault or responsibility. It always comes back to me. I don't want to lose my only child. I love him unconditionally. But he could die from what he is doing. And the thing is - he does not care. I am beyond sick over this. I know exactly what the other Moms are feeling as they are in my shoes. No one else really does...except my therapist. Who tells me he is an adult and only he can change his life. But when? There seems to be no hope.

Jump to this post

I'm sorry for your grief. If you have not yet looked into NAMI, I highly recommend the family support group. There are also very good books: "I'm Not Sick, I Don't Need Help" by Dr. Amidor and "When Your Adult Child Breaks Your Heart". I don't know about the midwest but there are clinics and programs that specialize in Dual Diagnosis (Co-Occurring Disorders). The South doesn't have many. Have you considered an intervention? There are different levels of that but I believe Recovery Centers of America offers intervention services. Located in Illinois and Indiana. Manipulation is commonplace with substance use disorders. The first book I mentioned discusses the lack of insight that occurs with some mental health illnesses. All the best to you.

REPLY
Profile picture for John, Volunteer Mentor @johnbishop

Hello @renee8466, I would like to add my welcome along with @dlydailyhope and others. I'm sorry to say that I have had similar experiences with my son who is now 55 but doing much better than those early years, mainly because his treatments have changed for the better over the years and he is now much better. What helped my wife and I during those tough years that you are now experiencing was finding a local support group where we could talk with other parents going through similar experiences. The National Alliance for Mental Illness (NAMI) has some information on finding support that I think could be helpful for you and your son - https://www.nami.org/support-education/support-groups/.

Have you thought about talking with his doctors or care team for suggestions, or trying to find a local support group?

Jump to this post

My son refuses all treatment except a therapist. He has to see her to live here. He seems to have a personality disorder.
His father did. But he won't get help and now he says me and his grandma abused him as a child. That is not true. If anything he was spoiled rotten and I am an enabler. I told him it doesn't matter how he got where he is, that it is his responsibility to move forward. Does he lie to justify his own behavior? He hates me but won't leave. I'm in SC and literally can't make him leave unless I formally file eviction papers and go to court.

REPLY

renee8466:
I am noticing that it seems our dysfunctional/mentally ill/substance abuser "sons" target their Moms. I could be wrong...but I am seeing no Dads talk about their sons in this forum. Maybe they aren't even on this site. It would be great to hear from some Dads who are dealing with adult sons who are beyond difficult to cope with, impossible to have a happy relationship with...sons who are anything but "normal". Yes, my ex also has a personality disorder - his entire immediate family does. Of course, I am wondering if my son is just like him now.
My son screamed at me "you manipulated me my whole life!!"...I did everything I could for him growing up - used all my money to send him to one of the best colleges in the country instead of putting it away for my retirement. I could sure use that money now. Yes, they do lie. I can't believe anything my son says. Yes, I feel he is full of rage towards me and hates me on some level. He is disengaged from his father. Unfortunately his father does play games with him (personality disorder). But my son will ignore him...never fight with him as he does with me. We all living in different places. My ex is in the south, I am on the east coast and my son lives in the mid-west. He visits me a lot. It will start out good...then he starts to "bait" me wanting an argument so he can state his "case" and talk like a lawyer. Twisting everything around to be "my fault". He is completely miserable, won't give up his drug and it's ruining his life (has ruined) in every way. He had lots of good friends, all gone now. He is completely isolated but he made his life that way. I hear you loud and clear. I understand perfectly what you are going through. It's no surprise he won't leave. Why should he? He has it made living with you and you are his target for everything that is wrong in his life. He likes having a target. He takes absolutely no responsibility or ownership of his behaviors. It's always someone "else" and it's you apparently.
No one can tell you to go to court to have him evicted. I can tell you the process will take months until he finally has to leave...maybe even a year. The courts will be on his side, more than yours. Unless you have proof he is physically abusing you...he is a danger to others and to himself. Then that's a 911 call to get him admitted to an inpatient psychiatric unit. But he can play the game there also...once admitted he will deny his feelings of wishing to harm himself or others. They might hold him for 72 hours and then he will be discharged back to you. Do you have a lawyer? Hope so. It seems like you need one. How about your local family social services. Can they help you? You need professional help to help you get through this. Can anyone help you from the church? I don't know your ages. But if you are a senior, this is so terribly unfair to you (but would be at any age). I am 70 and my son is 40. This is my retirement years...never in a million years would I think this would happen to him (or me at my age). And I just got diagnosed with breast cancer, have heart disease, etc. He did a 360 with his life because he had 2 major losses. I get that. But sadly his coping skills were to self medicated and now he is abusing and addicted. The very best to you. I hope you find a way to happiness again.

REPLY

About 10 yrs ago I became paranoid and more isolated than ever. A psychiatrist added 300mg gabapentin (not GABA) to my daily medications and that seemed to help curb the uneasiness without interfering with other meds. Gabapentin is beneficial for many symptoms, including RLS (restless leg syndrome), inflammation, and various other miscellaneous things. My dr. increased my dosage to an additional 600 mg at bedtime for RLS. If your son has ever mentioned being bothered by those symptoms or others (i.e., insomnia), tell him you've heard about gabapentin but don't mention taking it for paranoia because he may not like that term, deny & reject; just say that it might be helpful to ask a physician about gabapentin being a possible remedy for whatever symptoms he already mentioned.

Good luck re-establishing your connection with him.

REPLY
Profile picture for briarrose @briarrose

I am not happy at all seeing other Moms going through what I am. But it makes me feel not so alone.
I believe he is abusing prescription drugs...and is getting more from an other physician who is in Canada. My son lived there for 3 years before moving to the mid-west in the states. I found old prescriptions from 2024 and pharmacy bags with the names of a couple of amphetamines - all from Canada when visiting me. Yes, I snooped. So, he smartly has 2 medical providers prescribing the same drugs. The prescription bags had his old Canadian address on them as well as the sessions he had with his Canadian provider. I knew he was abusing...but thought he was getting them from the dark web or even from a supplier who might live in his condo. I never thought he was using his old psychiatrist or PCP from Canada and this doctor and the pharmacy simply think he is still living in Canada. He gets a 6 month supply...I thought "how does he pick up these drugs?" I figured out he simply flies there (not a long trip) or even drives there...he must pick them up personally and uses cash. I found 4 pharmacy bags with prices. He is actually paying about $1600 for these drugs at a clip to avoid insurance and credit cards charges. Pretty slick, right? I am beyond heartbroken but I know from previous talks (before I knew about Canada) he does not want to give up these drugs. He is visiting me right now. In the mornings clearly he has crashed. Refuses to speak to me and hides in his bedroom, often complains of headaches. By late afternoon he is animated, laughing and talking. But I can see he is still not himself. As a loving Mom I can not let this go. But how to confront him? His father, my ex is totally useless. He has a severe personality disorder and says he will do this & that to help him - and always always does nothing. He lives in the South. I know my son will explore when I talk to him...thinking of writing a letter to him. He sees a therapist periodically but b/c of his addition - misses a lot of sessions. This is about his 6th therapist since moving to the mid-west 3 years ago. Yes, he had 2 major traumas...and went down the rabbit hole and turned to drugs to self-medicate. I thought he had the strength to pick himself up despite it all and make choices to improve his life. No, we went the other way. He is a debating and argues with me on every point. He should have been a lawyer. He can twist everything around to NOT make anything his fault or responsibility. It always comes back to me. I don't want to lose my only child. I love him unconditionally. But he could die from what he is doing. And the thing is - he does not care. I am beyond sick over this. I know exactly what the other Moms are feeling as they are in my shoes. No one else really does...except my therapist. Who tells me he is an adult and only he can change his life. But when? There seems to be no hope.

Jump to this post

I know that feeling as i have a 41 son that is self medicating,refuse to go to the doctor and get help,he is now homeless and jobless and behind bars for breaching an order due to mental health.He is in the process of losing everything and still refusing help.I am at my wits end and my back is against the wall...looking for advice and suggestions from parents that are and have gone thru this...Stay strong everyone!!

REPLY
Profile picture for hope59 @hope59

I know that feeling as i have a 41 son that is self medicating,refuse to go to the doctor and get help,he is now homeless and jobless and behind bars for breaching an order due to mental health.He is in the process of losing everything and still refusing help.I am at my wits end and my back is against the wall...looking for advice and suggestions from parents that are and have gone thru this...Stay strong everyone!!

Jump to this post

I just book 2 books which were highly recommended on Amazon, haven't started them yet.
One will probably not be helpful to you...maybe to others dealing with adult children... "Doing Life with Your Adult Children."

This one might be helpful to you - "When your Adult Child Breaks your Heart -coping with mental illness, substance abuse and the Problems That Tear Families Apart." Written by Joel L. Young MD, with Christine Adamec.

Also, Nar-Anon for family support or NAMI might be helpful also.
I am in your shoes. It is truly heart-breaking. Wishing you all the best as you travel this road no parent ever wants to be on.

REPLY
Profile picture for briarrose @briarrose

I just book 2 books which were highly recommended on Amazon, haven't started them yet.
One will probably not be helpful to you...maybe to others dealing with adult children... "Doing Life with Your Adult Children."

This one might be helpful to you - "When your Adult Child Breaks your Heart -coping with mental illness, substance abuse and the Problems That Tear Families Apart." Written by Joel L. Young MD, with Christine Adamec.

Also, Nar-Anon for family support or NAMI might be helpful also.
I am in your shoes. It is truly heart-breaking. Wishing you all the best as you travel this road no parent ever wants to be on.

Jump to this post

Thank you very much and all the best to you as well!

REPLY
Profile picture for hope59 @hope59

I know that feeling as i have a 41 son that is self medicating,refuse to go to the doctor and get help,he is now homeless and jobless and behind bars for breaching an order due to mental health.He is in the process of losing everything and still refusing help.I am at my wits end and my back is against the wall...looking for advice and suggestions from parents that are and have gone thru this...Stay strong everyone!!

Jump to this post

In CA the courts have mental illness courts for non-violent offenders. You may want to see if that exists in your state and speak with the District Attorney handling his case.

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.