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Treating Long Covid as Inflamation Based

Posted by gregorb @gregorb, May 29 11:15am

Thought that Long Covid is inflammation driven in attacking our bodies? Please correct me if I'm wrong. If so, why aren't the treatments based more on that, if clinically effective. Sure, you can talk about the issue of possible addiction to pain and inflammation killing medications and doctors reluctantance to treat that way,
even with monitoring. But guessing quality of life may be more important to many of us at this point. Especially for seniors.

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beachbum | @arichards3 | May 30 7:43am

Dr. Bruce Patterson's working theory is that the root cause of LC symptoms is Vascular Inflammation and he has a course or treatment to cure vascular inflammation. I am about 4 months into his program, feeling better, and my blood numbers are changing which gives me more and more confidence in his regimen.

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gregorb | @gregorb | May 30 8:35am

Beach bumper
Thanks for your reply and helpful information.

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uget1shot | @uget1shot | May 30 10:37am
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@arichards3

Dr. Bruce Patterson's working theory is that the root cause of LC symptoms is Vascular Inflammation and he has a course or treatment to cure vascular inflammation. I am about 4 months into his program, feeling better, and my blood numbers are changing which gives me more and more confidence in his regimen.

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I'm happy to hear you're seeing progress! I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. Where can one find info on Dr. Patterson's protocol? I remember seeing some info from him earlier on in my 5-year journey.

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uget1shot | @uget1shot | May 30 10:42am

I do believe inflammation lays a large role in this - whether its a lead or lag indicator i couldn't say. I can tell you that I had surgery last summer for a related vascular issue and my surgeon, upon opening me up, found "extensive inflammation" adhering to various body parts that shouldn't have been there - incl. adhesions connecting my liver to my hepatic, splenic and celiac arteries as well as my median arcuate ligament. He had to remove these and clear out dead or inflamed nerves and lymphatics before he could do the scheduled surgery. He was surprised to find this and had no idea what caused it.

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gregorb | @gregorb | May 30 12:02pm
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@uget1shot

I do believe inflammation lays a large role in this - whether its a lead or lag indicator i couldn't say. I can tell you that I had surgery last summer for a related vascular issue and my surgeon, upon opening me up, found "extensive inflammation" adhering to various body parts that shouldn't have been there - incl. adhesions connecting my liver to my hepatic, splenic and celiac arteries as well as my median arcuate ligament. He had to remove these and clear out dead or inflamed nerves and lymphatics before he could do the scheduled surgery. He was surprised to find this and had no idea what caused it.

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Get 1shot
Thank you for your post and most valuable information. So sorry you had to go through that surgery and those frightening finds. Best wishes.

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uget1shot | @uget1shot | May 30 1:04pm
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Get 1shot
Thank you for your post and most valuable information. So sorry you had to go through that surgery and those frightening finds. Best wishes.

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the interesting thing is, this inflammation seems to evade detection; in all the imaging studies i had done prior to surgery, none showed even a hint of the webbing that was there. CTs, doppler ultrasounds, Xrays and even an MRI done weeks before - none showed any hint of it.

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gregorb | @gregorb | May 30 5:07pm
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@uget1shot

the interesting thing is, this inflammation seems to evade detection; in all the imaging studies i had done prior to surgery, none showed even a hint of the webbing that was there. CTs, doppler ultrasounds, Xrays and even an MRI done weeks before - none showed any hint of it.

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Get 1shot
This disease remains so mysterious.

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uget1shot | @uget1shot | May 30 6:37pm
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Get 1shot
This disease remains so mysterious.

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it sure does

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sweetwater9 | @sweetwater9 | May 30 8:36pm
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@uget1shot

I do believe inflammation lays a large role in this - whether its a lead or lag indicator i couldn't say. I can tell you that I had surgery last summer for a related vascular issue and my surgeon, upon opening me up, found "extensive inflammation" adhering to various body parts that shouldn't have been there - incl. adhesions connecting my liver to my hepatic, splenic and celiac arteries as well as my median arcuate ligament. He had to remove these and clear out dead or inflamed nerves and lymphatics before he could do the scheduled surgery. He was surprised to find this and had no idea what caused it.

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Youget, I know this is a little off the wall. But, I have been doing a lot of research on Histamine Intolerance ( having too high levels of histamine). Some LC sufferers have it. I believe it is causing my symptoms. I keep plugging in high histamine levels and any health issue I have. Almost every time, there is a connection. I plugged in adhesions and organs and yes high histamine can cause adhesions between organs. Just thought I would share this.

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uget1shot | @uget1shot | May 30 9:47pm
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Youget, I know this is a little off the wall. But, I have been doing a lot of research on Histamine Intolerance ( having too high levels of histamine). Some LC sufferers have it. I believe it is causing my symptoms. I keep plugging in high histamine levels and any health issue I have. Almost every time, there is a connection. I plugged in adhesions and organs and yes high histamine can cause adhesions between organs. Just thought I would share this.

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Wow! TY sweet. I never would have thought to connect this to histamine intolerance. I've come a long way in my long covid recovery (I'm an OG - March 2020), but still have certain lasting issues. I do show high eosinophils on specialty allergy testing, not connected to anything in particular. This has puzzled my Integrative Health provider. I'm seeing an immunology specialist at Johns Hopkins this summer - curious to see what they can tell me. I'm glad you shared your POV. I will add this to my discussion list for that appointment.

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