Too much cold air entering the nostrils

Posted by learningstudent @learningstudent, Apr 16, 2020

Well…Recently I have developed a weird symptom. I think I have had it for a month. My nose has no mucus, booger and when I inhale, I feel like there is too much air entering my nostrils so I have to use something to block part of it. Otherwise I feel so uncomfortable and suffocated. My right nostril is getting worse, there is no congestion or anything and sometimes my face or nose seems to lose sensation. When the turbinates work normally, they will shrink and swell up and provide warm air but this does not happen to my nose. All the air I breathe in is cold and is not warm at all. I am just wondering what causes it because for people who have atrophic sinusitis, they will have nose blockage. But I do not, I feel my nose is so empty and too much air entering them when inhaling even my nose is not dried. I hope somebody could help.

I have checked my nose, I do not see any turbinates, only hair and the holes of my nose. I have never done any turbinate reduction or nasal surgery.

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@learningstudent– how long have your symptoms been going on?

1. Ask yourself, prior to this were/are you completely healthy? What were you going through when you started to be aware of this? Different weather, food, cold, anything new in your living environment?

2. Educate yourself on the anatomy of the nose and how it functions. The nasal mucosa is richly innervated with nerves. It is easy for turbinates and nasal mucosa to become very sensitive due to external, environmental causes. You may or may not have thinner mucosa than someone else, which IS NORMAL. The mucosa can respond to food, hormones, emotions, and stress.
Nasal inflammation and inflammation in the body of what you see a Rheumatologist for, are not one in the same.

3. Do not start reading/googling about dysfunction or you will start convincing yourself you have a problem, which will then cause you to focus on it, especially when it is your breathing area. Everyone will experience irritated turbinates at some point in their lives. It is common.

4. Keep in mind, if you go to an ENT, they are surgeons. Most (not all) will be looking at you through their own narrow lens of what or how they can cut something out.
Everything in the body is connected. ENTs have little information outside of the anatomy they work on, on just how much that part of anatomy is affected by so many other things that could be a simple solve.

5. Natural Path/Functional Medicine doctors know a lot about the nasal passages and cavity. They are not covered by insurance but they will help you in a different way than a surgeon would know how.

6. – Best advice I could give, because I know first hand with how important the nose function is, is to not start telling yourself you have something wrong with you before you have an appt. Your energy will go to that spot and bring hyper focus to it.
Look at your internal environment; nutrition, sleep, hydration, exercise.
Look at your external environment; temperature, allergens, anything new in the home.

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The docs just do not take the patients seriously and they do not investigate and study the case and the answer I receive is I do not know and offer some common and stupid advice or simply could not diagnose or help at all. Even the med or things they told me did not work.

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@learningstudent

The docs just do not take the patients seriously and they do not investigate and study the case and the answer I receive is I do not know and offer some common and stupid advice or simply could not diagnose or help at all. Even the med or things they told me did not work.

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@learningstudent -try a naturopathic doctor. They know a lot about what can help mucous membranes. ENTs will only want to cut things out. Other than that, they don’t want you to waste their time. Many external factors can cause the dryness in nose, so there is nothing a doctor, especially a surgeon or a pill can do for you when it comes to external irritants. You could also try allergy testing.

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@nrd1

@learningstudent -try a naturopathic doctor. They know a lot about what can help mucous membranes. ENTs will only want to cut things out. Other than that, they don’t want you to waste their time. Many external factors can cause the dryness in nose, so there is nothing a doctor, especially a surgeon or a pill can do for you when it comes to external irritants. You could also try allergy testing.

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Hello, I have suffered from many of the symptoms you've noted during the last few years. As I age the symptoms have become worse. I have gone thru the x-rays, scans, and met with an ENT at Mayo. I have a bloody nose daily in the winter, and this year I've had it all month (June) to my surprise. It usually goes away by this time of the year. Now my symptoms have changed a bit. Not only is the air cold in my nose, my front upper teeth feel like I have an ice bag on them. So strange. I suffer from a level 4 out of 5 severity when it comes to a deviated septum. I have tried the lotions, creams, pills, and sprays, nothing seems to works well. The ENT said she could do the lengthy surgery to try and help me but only gave me a 57% chance that it would help. I have not had the surgery. A mask and petroleum jelly applied to my nostrils at night allow me to sleep for now.

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@nrd1

@learningstudent -try a naturopathic doctor. They know a lot about what can help mucous membranes. ENTs will only want to cut things out. Other than that, they don’t want you to waste their time. Many external factors can cause the dryness in nose, so there is nothing a doctor, especially a surgeon or a pill can do for you when it comes to external irritants. You could also try allergy testing.

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How do I find this kind of doctor?

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@learningstudent

How do I find this kind of doctor?

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@learningstudent -search your local area for natural path doctors and call to see if they specialize in nasal/sinus issues. Also look to Ayurvedic as they have special practices as well.
-Also, you will be told this is psychosomatic. Don’t let that term scare you. It just means mind/body. Typically what happens in this situation is for whatever reason, life stressors, lack of sleep, diet or lack of social outlet/community, your mind/body has drawn more awareness to a weak link in your body.
So this is something you’ve probably had that was minor, which gets worse with environmental changes (hot/cold) etc…your mind has drawn more attention to it and will keep doing so until you can shift or calm your nerves in a sense. It doesn’t mean it’s not real. Your mind has just increased the sensitivity by drawing more attention to it. You have the power to control this. Through increasing nasal moisture, through vitamins/minerals. Drinking enough fluids, lowering stress levels. Going at it the natural way. There is nothing an ENT can do for sensory related issues. The only thing they will do is prescribe medications, which do not relieve dryness. And or tell you, you have some abnormalities causing this and will want to cut out vital parts of your nose.
Educate yourself on the nasal cavity and how sensitive it is to stress, diet and environmental factors. It’s pretty fascinating how many nerves play a role. And you can put the control back in yourself to feel normal again. Go the natural route.

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@bwilliams61

Hello, I have suffered from many of the symptoms you've noted during the last few years. As I age the symptoms have become worse. I have gone thru the x-rays, scans, and met with an ENT at Mayo. I have a bloody nose daily in the winter, and this year I've had it all month (June) to my surprise. It usually goes away by this time of the year. Now my symptoms have changed a bit. Not only is the air cold in my nose, my front upper teeth feel like I have an ice bag on them. So strange. I suffer from a level 4 out of 5 severity when it comes to a deviated septum. I have tried the lotions, creams, pills, and sprays, nothing seems to works well. The ENT said she could do the lengthy surgery to try and help me but only gave me a 57% chance that it would help. I have not had the surgery. A mask and petroleum jelly applied to my nostrils at night allow me to sleep for now.

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@bwilliams61 -as we get older our mucous membranes naturally dry out a little bit. So please remind yourself that, to keep yourself calm and know that there are things you can do. When it comes to dryness, studies have shown that structures in our nose aren’t necessarily the cause, such as the shape like a deviated septum. So don’t put too much on that. ENTs/surgery can not help with moisture. But you yourself can. You have the control and power to help with this. Keep a humidifier in your room, especially the winter months. Work with a functional/natural path doctor as they can address any vitamin/nutrients you can improve upon. The same mucous membrane that lines the nose, is the same that lines the gut. It’s all connected. Studies have shown that a lack of Vitamin C can cause more nosebleeds and cracking. Things like this you can help with. Increase all fresh/whole foods in your diet especially those essential for skin, such as Omega 3’s. Stay very hydrated. The first way to overcome this is to educate yourself on the way nerves/stress play a role in the nasal cavity. Practice stress reliving techniques and good self care. It’s ALL connected. No Western Medical doc will tell you that. You have to control over your mind & body. I hope this helps you a little bit.

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@bwilliams61

Hello, I have suffered from many of the symptoms you've noted during the last few years. As I age the symptoms have become worse. I have gone thru the x-rays, scans, and met with an ENT at Mayo. I have a bloody nose daily in the winter, and this year I've had it all month (June) to my surprise. It usually goes away by this time of the year. Now my symptoms have changed a bit. Not only is the air cold in my nose, my front upper teeth feel like I have an ice bag on them. So strange. I suffer from a level 4 out of 5 severity when it comes to a deviated septum. I have tried the lotions, creams, pills, and sprays, nothing seems to works well. The ENT said she could do the lengthy surgery to try and help me but only gave me a 57% chance that it would help. I have not had the surgery. A mask and petroleum jelly applied to my nostrils at night allow me to sleep for now.

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I have this issue where my nose is so open and to the point it hurts my heart or ling when I breath heavy in thru my nose so much cold air maybe my chest is too open so what I did for temporary relief is plug my nose with some tissue no to the point I can’t breath but just enough to where in an still breath in n out my nose just not that much it stops too much air from comin in and just a nice amount plus bum Vaseline on my chest and nose. I’m a chronic weed smokier I actually stopped for 9 days last month but I started back sun recently so I could have smokers Lungs but I am only 24 and should not be having these health issues so I really hope I feel better soon. Possibly too much dry air in my home I need a humidifier I’m going to get one tmrw .

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@destinyh96

I have this issue where my nose is so open and to the point it hurts my heart or ling when I breath heavy in thru my nose so much cold air maybe my chest is too open so what I did for temporary relief is plug my nose with some tissue no to the point I can’t breath but just enough to where in an still breath in n out my nose just not that much it stops too much air from comin in and just a nice amount plus bum Vaseline on my chest and nose. I’m a chronic weed smokier I actually stopped for 9 days last month but I started back sun recently so I could have smokers Lungs but I am only 24 and should not be having these health issues so I really hope I feel better soon. Possibly too much dry air in my home I need a humidifier I’m going to get one tmrw .

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@destinyh96 -you should not be having that issue at your age. If you are a chronic weed smoker, the smoke will dry out your cilia which are the hairs that move your mucous and moisture through your nose. Once these dry out, your nose will not function as it should for moisture and humidification. Many people don’t know that their nose is an organ, just like the lungs, heart and skin…So think about your skin. If you are in the sun everyday with no sunscreen and no proper moisture, your skin will dry out and not protect you as well. Same for your nose. The dryness inside will give you the cold open feeling, you are experiencing. Look up nasal mucosa to understand it’s function. Healthy diet, fluids, exercise and moisture will help this organ, just like the other organs of the body.

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Sounds like "empty Nose syndrome". I had sinus surgery and the doctor removed part of my turbinates. In fact, too much of my turbinates and left me with ENS. Not fun. Check it out on google and good luck.

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@drumline7860

Sounds like "empty Nose syndrome". I had sinus surgery and the doctor removed part of my turbinates. In fact, too much of my turbinates and left me with ENS. Not fun. Check it out on google and good luck.

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@drumline7860– “Empty nose syndrome” or post nasal surgery dysfunction is an iatrogenic condition. I am very sorry for what you have had to go through and are still going through. However, if someone has not had surgery it is not kind to send them down the rabbit hole of ENS. There are many things that can mimic ENS symptoms. A non operated patient would not have this. In saying that, I would encourage any patient who is experiencing nasal symptoms to steer clear from an ENT. At most see your PCP. And know that no doctor can help you with a dry sensation/too much air in your nose. Only you can help yourself, through, hydration & humidification. The other parts of sensation are often stress driven, as many nerves in the nose are over activated by stress. Emotional stress, goes through the nose. Environmental stress, goes through the nose. The nasal mucosa that lines your nose is the same that lines your gut. It protects yourself from many things. If more people knew this, and how to properly maintain this vital organ, there would be no ENTs in business. Rather than google a rabbit hole of “dis-eases”, look for ways to improve upon your health as a whole. Some people are just more sensitive than others in the nasal cavity. And that’s it. Learn ways to manage. But do not take pills or let a doctor touch you.

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I didn't say that he has it. I said that it sounds like it and I'm aware the other conditions can cause it : i.e. Hyperventilation syndrome, infection, etc. That having been said, If you check this and other forms you will find a lot of people that may be considering sinus surgery. As far as the rabbit hole, if my doctor or anyone else had told me (Not that I WOULD get it) but that I COULD get it, I never would have had the surgery to begin with, which by the way, was first diagnosed by Eugene Kern, MD, at (you guessed it) The Mayo Clinic. So…if my comments saved one person from suffering with this incurable condition, then my day has been made a little better. And… this is supposed to be a forum, not an ass ripping contest and I don't need to be scolded by you or anyone else. Two of the many symptoms of ENS are irritability and anxiety, which sadly I seem to be experiencing now. And yes I did have this confirmed by another ENT doctor. Have a good day.

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