Probably not ever going to be officially diagnosed

Posted by lkelley8 @lkelley8, Feb 26 9:15pm

I have a really strong and independent mother was pointedly told me that she is not senile. And yes, senile, is a term that she used when I tried to have a conversation with her about things that I had noticed that were concerning related to her mental health. That was now, about three years ago although I'd seen things several years prior to then. But dad just said - she just needs rest.

In doing some research, I might gather that my mom could be somewhere in the latter early stages or moderate stages of I think Alzheimer's but of course we're just saying dementia. But I know that we will probably never have the opportunity to get her officially tested so that we have an actual diagnosis. She's just not that woman. I fear she will never reveal that there is a problem. I just don't think it will ever happen. More importantly, because of who she is in her independence, her strength, her will and the profession that she retired from... presentation is everything and she's made a career of presenting well and being very articulate so this is really hard. When I say hard, not just for her, but also for us because it's not easy to discern whether or not she even knows that she has dementia or whether that is the dementia itself . To this end, we haven't been able to really have any fruitful conversations about the changes in her mental health. The things that she's forgetting, the concerns that we have with things that have risen that question her safety and that of others. She's functioning fully right now. She still drives. She still cares for herself so at face value, you'd think nothing is wrong. To know her intimately as her daughter and to know her intimately as my dad, her husband, we know that something's off and something's not quite right.

Last year was a tough year and we definitely recognized a change in her mental health such that it declined and we felt this shift. But we really believe that this has everything to do with very significant events that might've been somewhat traumatic for her. We are in Florida so during the fall we always encounter hurricane season and last year was a pretty bad one and a pretty scary one. And we had a lot of hurricanes and the stress of the unknown with these storms almost back to back and I think that had everything to do with some of her decline. We also experienced a lot of the highs and lows with the election last year which I think for everybody was just dramatic no matter which side of the aisle you were on. Then more recently, the man who's somewhat responsible for keeping a roof over her head, not her biological father, but a father figure took ill and was in the hospital for at least a couple weeks. He has since bounced back, but I think that window of time was very hard for her even with dementia. She was exhausted from staying all day and night at the hospital. Somedays she was out of it becuase she was so mentally tapped out and was not sleeping. I'm not sure if she cried. I'm also not sure how she was affected emotionally, but I do know that she was impacted by it and I do know that she was not sleeping well if at all, although that's not really anything new.

If you have any advice on this or anything, please share I'm starting this journey as a daughter. I am an only child and I am quietly terrified of what's to come - just the not knowing...

I just convinced my dad just in the last few years that something was wrong. He was in denial, I think. She just needs to rest - he's say and then she'll get better. I think it was all apparent, at least to me, from the time she retired - that was 11 year ago.

share what you can I'm open thanks...

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@pamela78

I relate to what you say about your mother. My husband has been declining for at least four years but doesn't seem to realize the changes he's experiencing. We don't talk about it, but I'm quietly and gradually taking on more of the things he used to do. The things he still can do--drive to familiar places, unload the dishwasher, make the bed, do the laundry--he takes great pride in doing. Looking at that list, I can see that he still does quite a lot. It's the endless repetition and the loss of words that drive me around the bend. Whenever I leave the house, I come home to find him waiting for me on the porch. Yesterday I walked up to a nearby restaurant to spend an hour with a friend. I was gone for an hour and a half, and when I got home my husband said he was about to get in his car and go looking for me. He'd forgotten where I was going and the direction I'd be coming from. We coasted along for a long time but things seem to be slipping faster these days. What is it they say? When the going gets tough, the tough get doing. We could all do with a little of Henry V's spirited rhetoric, I guess.

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This is ME. I could have written this. I need some “me time” but he worries. Looks for me in the house if I’m in another room for 20 minutes…He still does all the things you mention to help around house, still drives to familiar places, and drives well…but has had trouble navigating to places that are not so familiar, even though his car has GPS and all he has to do is talk to it for directions. The advice I am given includes “continue to do things for yourself”, but that is looking less and less possible, going forward. Take care of yourself.

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@pamela78

I relate to what you say about your mother. My husband has been declining for at least four years but doesn't seem to realize the changes he's experiencing. We don't talk about it, but I'm quietly and gradually taking on more of the things he used to do. The things he still can do--drive to familiar places, unload the dishwasher, make the bed, do the laundry--he takes great pride in doing. Looking at that list, I can see that he still does quite a lot. It's the endless repetition and the loss of words that drive me around the bend. Whenever I leave the house, I come home to find him waiting for me on the porch. Yesterday I walked up to a nearby restaurant to spend an hour with a friend. I was gone for an hour and a half, and when I got home my husband said he was about to get in his car and go looking for me. He'd forgotten where I was going and the direction I'd be coming from. We coasted along for a long time but things seem to be slipping faster these days. What is it they say? When the going gets tough, the tough get doing. We could all do with a little of Henry V's spirited rhetoric, I guess.

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@pamela78 My father’s endless repetitions and loss of words also drives my brother around the bend when he flies in occasionally to see Dad on his way overseas. Despite it being several years now. When it first started happening I felt anger - and realised it came from fear. Fear of what it meant. Fear of the future. Now I know it’s Dad’s new normal and I accept that. It’s not helpful to remind him he has already told us that story or that he asked the same question a few minutes ago. I now always respond as if it was the 1st time he’d said it. He’ll say the same thing numerous times when we’re together. That’s ok. Dad takes comfort from speaking what he’s thinking. He can’t help it and it’s now a normal part of our communication ❤️‍🩹

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@4goakley

I write on the whiteboard on the fridge…
Gym 9- 10 am
Or Lunch with Sue 12- 2 pm etc

I also phone him to say I’m on my way home.
It works for now 🤞

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I do the same. The schedule for the week. It helps reinforce what we are doing daily.

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@pamela78

I relate to what you say about your mother. My husband has been declining for at least four years but doesn't seem to realize the changes he's experiencing. We don't talk about it, but I'm quietly and gradually taking on more of the things he used to do. The things he still can do--drive to familiar places, unload the dishwasher, make the bed, do the laundry--he takes great pride in doing. Looking at that list, I can see that he still does quite a lot. It's the endless repetition and the loss of words that drive me around the bend. Whenever I leave the house, I come home to find him waiting for me on the porch. Yesterday I walked up to a nearby restaurant to spend an hour with a friend. I was gone for an hour and a half, and when I got home my husband said he was about to get in his car and go looking for me. He'd forgotten where I was going and the direction I'd be coming from. We coasted along for a long time but things seem to be slipping faster these days. What is it they say? When the going gets tough, the tough get doing. We could all do with a little of Henry V's spirited rhetoric, I guess.

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Sounds like our husbands are on the same path at this time. The thing I miss the most is meaningful conversation; sharing our day, the needs to be done around the house, planning trips, our discussions never include any future planning. His mind just doesn’t move forward with planning and I so miss that with him. We have been married 44 years and talking and sharing has always been an important part of our relationship.

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@labrown

Sounds like our husbands are on the same path at this time. The thing I miss the most is meaningful conversation; sharing our day, the needs to be done around the house, planning trips, our discussions never include any future planning. His mind just doesn’t move forward with planning and I so miss that with him. We have been married 44 years and talking and sharing has always been an important part of our relationship.

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Yes, exactly. I just got off the phone with my best friend. We talked for over two hours about everything under the sun. My husband's conversations, such as they are, take about five minutes, then get repeated. It's so sad as I know he wants to connect with me but so much is just gone. He says we're not as connected as we used to be and we're not. Both of us are sad.

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I so understand. Our bucket list after we retired was traveling to Israel, out west…cowboy country 😊, and an Alaskan cruise. The first two were met with great enthusiasm and planning between us. Last Summer, three years after our trip out west, our daughter planned the cruise and though hubby was glad to go he had no interest in the planning or the details. He enjoyed the trip as it was happening, but he hasn’t really mentioned it since we returned. That is the hardest thing for me. Sharing life’s daily adventures through communication. He still drives although I usually help direct if it’s out of his regular routine. He goes with me to the grandkids events (although he has a difficult time recalling their names). He is great at household chores…almost to a fault, takes care of our 8 acre patch, but I have to handle any communicating of appointments, telephone calls, repairs, and all finances or anything having to do with running the household. He doesn’t have much interest in the TV, but does enjoy watching You Tube videos on his phone. He has on going conversations with those people all along believing they communicate with him as well. Have you experienced any of that? Thank you for sharing with me. This site helps me tremendously. Friends and family really don’t have any idea. We go through the motions when we go to church or anywhere else, and just to see us out you would never know what we are dealing with unless you have a one on one conversation with him and see his struggle to find the words and create the sentences needed to make sense. Reading other folks experiences here on the chat helps me to deal with mine. We are about four years into this journey.

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@labrown

I do the same. The schedule for the week. It helps reinforce what we are doing daily.

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We have a shared calendar on our phones…until recently, I was just going along thinking that was adequate. Now I realize he doesn't bother to check the phone calendar…so it is time for a whiteboard.

I learn a lot from the folks on here, and I thank you.

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I keep everything on my phone calendar too, but he is not able to maneuver around much on his phone anymore. Just can’t remember how. He can answer it…when he will, he usually ignores it because he doesn’t want try to have a conversation on it. He can call me or his brothers and can open some apps he enjoys like You Tube. I am continuously showing him how to search for topics that might interest him. It’s just so hard for him to be living in a tech world and not able to maneuver about in it. .

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@labrown

Sounds like our husbands are on the same path at this time. The thing I miss the most is meaningful conversation; sharing our day, the needs to be done around the house, planning trips, our discussions never include any future planning. His mind just doesn’t move forward with planning and I so miss that with him. We have been married 44 years and talking and sharing has always been an important part of our relationship.

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I am a Care Giver for my wife; 3 months of depression - i assumed ... 6 more months of NO motivation ... we used to go to 3 different places to eat out during the month.

There WAS no real Summer. Things we did special for Fall; nothing!

Winter? i purchased a tree with lights the 2nd week of December...never got decorated.

Yes....there ARE no
meaningful conversations. I need a female to talk to - asking for trouble!

She used to constantly criticize. Now she is a Type B and soft spoken. ?????
Her brain scan (after waiting 5 months) came back as MILD !!!!

Frequent UTIs indicates something else... the Immune System has weakened. Not enough white blood cells to fight the infection - NEXT UP TO BAT

i feel like Linda's General Contractor with an array of doctors to "network" with each other!!!! Why IS that?

Anyone experience this in trying to have a true diagnosis of all the parts that make up Linda.

Keith

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@labrown

I keep everything on my phone calendar too, but he is not able to maneuver around much on his phone anymore. Just can’t remember how. He can answer it…when he will, he usually ignores it because he doesn’t want try to have a conversation on it. He can call me or his brothers and can open some apps he enjoys like You Tube. I am continuously showing him how to search for topics that might interest him. It’s just so hard for him to be living in a tech world and not able to maneuver about in it. .

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What topics on You Tube interest him?

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