Recognizing my own bias or prejudice .....

Posted by ellerbracke @ellerbracke, Aug 31, 2019

I know I am very guilty of classifying people in general, and regarding weight in particular. Living in the bible/heart attack/ diabetes belt, it simply blows my mind how many obese people I see every single day when out and about. Granted, fewer of those at Dillard’s than Walmart. Still, in addition to being concerned, I am also judging those people. I know I should not, but how in the world can someone get that fat? It would take years of dedicated overeating to reach that. No, I really don’t think that all of them have a medical issue, seeing what’s in their grocery carts. Someone help me get a less judgmental attitude when I’ve been semi-denying myself all those chips and cookies and fries for decades?? I live and eat well, but treats should be treats, not daily food.

@contentandwell : Losing weight without trying: yes. Every time after extensive dental procedures (implants with complications), and each and every surgery (2 shoulders, 2 knees) I lost my appetite since I was either in pain, or unable to exercise. Re. dental issues with eating: the simple fact that one cannot eat as quickly, or as indiscriminately as usual, makes for a slower mealtime. Mostly this also means less time to eat, less food consumed. ,

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@ellerbracke

I think there was a reference to swimming 5 miles a day? I worked myself up to swimming 1/2 mile at an indoor pool, very short track, limited to backstroke bc of knee, in roughly 50 minutes. Slowpoke, but good aerobics Where did you accomplish yours?

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@ellerbracke
Sounds like you don’t believe me but heres an award for swimming. Good thing I was swimming so much. It saved me when I got caught in a rip tide in Carmel, Ca. (Monterey Bay, home to Great White Sharks. ) Very scary in the Pacific ocean when all you can see is water. It took me hours to get to shore.

I swam at the YMCA
5:30am-6:30am, m-f
11:30am-1:00pm, m-f
5:30-6:30pm, m-f
Since I was a volunteer there I had a key so would also go after hours occasionally.

The photo says YUBA CITY 210 Miles I got pledges to swim that far and paid for a lap clock and lane ropes for the YMCA.

Very admirable about your measurements. You have better willpower than I do.
My goal is 145lbs and a 31” waist which I already achieved hopefully I’ll get down to a 30” or 32” waistline.
Jake

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@hopeful33250

Hello @ellerbracke and @georgette12

You have brought up a very interesting topic, that of body image, especially regarding women. Some time ago when I was being weighed at the doctor's office prior to an appointment this note was posted above the scale:

"The numbers on a scale merely represent your body's relationship with gravity. They do not determine worth, talent, beauty, or the ability to have a wonderful heart."

Many women have problems with body image and become pre-occupied with being thin. They generally have more health problems than do heavier folks.

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@hopeful33250 That is an uplifting note. I recall as a child that my dad waged a battle with weight, as he had a job that didn't have a lot of exercise, but had a big appetite, and little down time to do activities. My mother shamed him into Metracal shakes, raw eggs washed down with coffee for breakfast, etc. He was a tall man and his family were all tall with "heavy bones", where my mother and her side were fairly petite. I have a picture where I look exactly like my dad's sister, who was not a small lady. My sisters, on the other hand, all took after my mother's side. But I have not spent a lot of time on body image. Rather, I know for myself that I eat as healthy as possible, exercise as I can, and am who I am – strong, considerate, respectful, compassionate.

@ellerbracke The lure of salt and fat that is irresistible to so many, is a contributing factor. Mass media fosters gluttony, as do fast food outlets, printed advertisements. Add to that the very real emotional satisfaction that some people get from eating, even if it is wrong, and it can be a recipe for more weight than healthy. We never know what someone is going through. By looking at someone, you do not know their health, or emotional struggles, nor their socio-economic struggles. Lower income earners may choose to go for less expensive but also less healthy food choices, just to fill their stomachs. For many people, eating is a social thing, whether alone or in a group. Asking for help to be less judgmental, I would refer back to the saying "judge not lest you be judged".
Ginger

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@ellerbracke
My swimming was 40 years ago.
I’d sink straight to the bottom if I jumped in a pool now. My shoulder surgeries finished my swimming.
Jake

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Ok, @jakedduck1, don't think that I'll allow you to blame any weight gain on the Canadian chocolate I recommended. After all, you did eat it!

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@hopeful33250
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Would you believe I only ate it so I could prove you right?
Jake

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@jakedduck1

@ellerbracke
My swimming was 40 years ago.
I’d sink straight to the bottom if I jumped in a pool now. My shoulder surgeries finished my swimming.
Jake

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@jakedduck1 What about just walking in a pool? You can do leg raises and so forth.

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@jakedduck1

@hopeful33250
Oh well, it was worth a shot. Would you believe I only ate it so I could prove you right?
Jake

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Yep, I believe it @jakedduck1

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@gingerw

@hopeful33250 That is an uplifting note. I recall as a child that my dad waged a battle with weight, as he had a job that didn't have a lot of exercise, but had a big appetite, and little down time to do activities. My mother shamed him into Metracal shakes, raw eggs washed down with coffee for breakfast, etc. He was a tall man and his family were all tall with "heavy bones", where my mother and her side were fairly petite. I have a picture where I look exactly like my dad's sister, who was not a small lady. My sisters, on the other hand, all took after my mother's side. But I have not spent a lot of time on body image. Rather, I know for myself that I eat as healthy as possible, exercise as I can, and am who I am – strong, considerate, respectful, compassionate.

@ellerbracke The lure of salt and fat that is irresistible to so many, is a contributing factor. Mass media fosters gluttony, as do fast food outlets, printed advertisements. Add to that the very real emotional satisfaction that some people get from eating, even if it is wrong, and it can be a recipe for more weight than healthy. We never know what someone is going through. By looking at someone, you do not know their health, or emotional struggles, nor their socio-economic struggles. Lower income earners may choose to go for less expensive but also less healthy food choices, just to fill their stomachs. For many people, eating is a social thing, whether alone or in a group. Asking for help to be less judgmental, I would refer back to the saying "judge not lest you be judged".
Ginger

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@gingerw Thanks for sharing your family story. Acceptance of who we are is certainly important. I'm glad that you aren't trying to look like your mother and sisters. That would make life very difficult for you.

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@hopeful33250

@jakedduck1 What about just walking in a pool? You can do leg raises and so forth.

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@hopeful33250
Well I don’t remember asking for your 2 cents, lol here but I suppose I can do that but the swim exercise class is at 8am. I think I’d rather be fat than get to the gym that early.
Jake

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@jakedduck1

@hopeful33250
Well I don’t remember asking for your 2 cents, lol here but I suppose I can do that but the swim exercise class is at 8am. I think I’d rather be fat than get to the gym that early.
Jake

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@jakedduck1 My swim exercise class is also at 8 a.m. At first, I thought as you do, but then I found myself waking up early so I get into the water. Give it a try! (I'll always add my 2 cents.)

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@hopeful33250

Just wondering if anyone else has any thoughts about body image and/or eating disorders. Have you known of anyone who has had an eating disorder? As younger women are most affected by the race-to-thinness, what can be done?

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@hopeful33250 I was bulimic when I was in my 20s. I had been heavy and lost a lot of weight but occasionally I couldn’t stop myself and binged on something so I would do what people do when they are bulimic. It was not a daily thing, just maybe weekly or so.

Eating too much is an addiction. When I was 90 pounds heavier I was always telling myself that I would start dieting tomorrow but tomorrow never came. I bought very few clothes and bought nothing expensive because I was going to lose weight! Now when I see young women who are very overweight I want to shake them and tell them how much they are compromising their health.

@ellerbracke Your measurements are great but I could never have achieved them, I’m an “Apple”, thick in the middle and always have been even when I was a size 5 in my 20s.

My loss of weight after my TKR and now has nothing to do with appetite, I’m as hungry as ever!

@gingerw Ginger, you are very compassionate and understanding… and right. Eating too much is, as I said, an addiction due to various things going on in a person’s life. Plus, I AM ALWAYS HUNGRY. I have learned control most of the time though, but put a big, yummy piece of cake in front of me and I will probably eat the whole thing, as I did at my son’s rehearsal dinner and wedding (but I still lost weight!). I do better having none, I can’t just have a small piece.

@jakedduck1 I am quite impressed by your swimming. I thought my daughter was good. She was at our place on a lake in Maine for an extended amount of time a few years ago and swam about two miles every morning before breakfast. Now she swims at her Health club quite a few times a week. I think she was born swimming. When I was pregnant with her there was so much activity they did an ultrasound to see if I was carrying twins – back then ultrasounds were not done routinely. I figure she was just swimming laps in there! 😁
JK

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