Pain and discouragement

Posted by kalo37 @kalo37, Aug 21, 2019

my chronic pain is often a downer. I do take meds for it but often am late with them and then the pain is awful. is life worth living is the trap i get into..i am a very senior person.

@tigreyes2004

Hi
I have the same problem. I have the chronic pain in my feet & legs. I am on Cymbalta . They first started me out on 30 mg & I took it for 4 weeks & no improvement so they put me on 60mg & I have been on it for a week & still no improvement . I am home most of the time because of the pain. I understand what your going through. I guess we have to try different medications to see what works. I bought cream for the legs & that don't help either. I am also a Senior & am dealing with chronic pelvic adhesions so my life is pain. Try to stay busy if you can & I soak my feet in hot water & that helps for awhile. I am hoping this medicine will kick in. Has anyone had good results on Cymbalta? Best of luck to you.

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@tigreyes2004, Good evening. I am concerned that you have had no improvement in your pain. Were you given duloxitine (Cymbalta) for pain? My understanding was that it was for anxiety about the pain, I was a basket case mentally when my PCP prescribed that medication. It made a huge difference for me, I am now at 60mg in the morning.

Anxiety about pain, creates more pain which creates more anxiety and on and on. You get into a loop that is quite disabling. I am glad to be out of the loop.

May you have comfort and ease in your day. Chris

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Thank you for your concern. I have been on this Cymbalta for 5 weeks now. I started with 30 mg & last week it was increased to 60 mg & still no relief. I don't have much of a life. I know this Cymbalta is an antidepressant but does it not help for pain?. I also tried the Nortriptyline & it was helping but made me so constipated that I had to get off of it. Then I tried the Gabapentin 200 mg & it made me so tired I had to taper off that. I don't know what meds to try. I worry a lot about the side effects. Mainly weigh gain & constipation. I am so glad I found this group because I am learning a lot. I also have pancreatitis. My lipase & amylace is going higher & higher & I had MRI & ultrasound done & they don't don't why it is like that so I am going through a ot right now. Thank you for your support.Genie

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@kalo37 I understand the interaction between pain and mental health. I'm not seeing a therapist right now, but I have most of the time for 14 years, working with depression, anxiety, PTSD and suicidal ideation. I had six sessions with a pain therapist, which did help me.

I've never been able to pin point a trigger for depression. The first thing I did when I noticed that I was feeling down was to talk with my PCP to see if there were any organic issues that could explain how I was feeling. We worked on that for a year and I discovered I have sleep apnea (I slept more than 12 hours a day the first few months), my gall bladder was working at only 12%, so it was removed. I don't remember the other things we found and addressed, but though I felt better physically, depression continued to worsen, and I was so far down I attempted suicide several times. I finally checked myself in to Sage View, a new facility that's for suicide survivors, and stayed for six weeks. The norm is one week.

Within six months I retired and started the process of climbing up out of the hole I was in. It was a slow, painful process. At Sage View the therapists suggested that we rate each day on a scale of 1-10. 10 would be the best day of your life. On my scale, 4 meant that I was actively suicidal, 5 is I have suicidal thoughts, but not in imminent danger. I thought I would never get up to 6. It took a couple of years to reach 5, and there I stayed for around 5 years. I finally made it to 6! I've been at 6 with occasional dips to 5, for several years now.

While I was struggling to get to 6, I started having numbness and tingling in my feet and legs. A neurologist told me it was peripheral neuropathy. I learned that all of my 5 siblings and our father had/have neuropathy. It was only an annoyance for a couple of years, but then I started having burning pain in my feet. That pain is part of the reason I was stuck mentally, keeping me down to 5 and sometimes 4. One step in getting a spinal cord stimulator is an assessment by a psychiatrist. He cleared me, but in that appointment I kind of fell apart. I hadn't been able to see a therapist for a year because the only one in town is a hospital staff, and the only one who took Medicare. The psychiatrist told me that a new therapist was going through the routine of setting up an office and would start working with clients in a month. I had dropped back down to 4 by then. At the end of my first session, I told the new therapist that he had saved my life. With his help, I started to feel better over the course of a year. I know that pain was playing a role in the downward spiral. I work now on separating the physical pain from the mental pain. I think I have a way to go yet. On days when my pain level is up to 8, it does affect my mental state. Thankfully, I find that being busy in the yard actually lessens the pain. It hits me when I lie down in bed. We have ten acres, with irrigation rights for just over 7 acres. A neighbor leases the pasture and does the irrigation so her cattle have good grazing. And it's convenient for them. They put a gate in the fence line and she can easily work the stock. I have plenty to keep me busy, maintaining a barn, garage and house and a large yard and lots of planting beds and a garden. We live in central Oregon, where it's high desert, and usually have around 12" of rain. This summer it's rained enough that God did a lot of watering for me. Most years it's almost a full time job keeping things watered and weeded. Having this nice home in the country is good therapy. I hope to be able to stay here for many years.

So, I know that life is worth living, and I know what a negative impact my death will have on my wife. Much of the time I can convince myself that I can keep going. I wish the same for you and more.

Jim

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@tigreyes2004

Thank you for your concern. I have been on this Cymbalta for 5 weeks now. I started with 30 mg & last week it was increased to 60 mg & still no relief. I don't have much of a life. I know this Cymbalta is an antidepressant but does it not help for pain?. I also tried the Nortriptyline & it was helping but made me so constipated that I had to get off of it. Then I tried the Gabapentin 200 mg & it made me so tired I had to taper off that. I don't know what meds to try. I worry a lot about the side effects. Mainly weigh gain & constipation. I am so glad I found this group because I am learning a lot. I also have pancreatitis. My lipase & amylace is going higher & higher & I had MRI & ultrasound done & they don't don't why it is like that so I am going through a ot right now. Thank you for your support.Genie

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Hello @tigreyes2004
Cymbalta is good for pain, but I found it took longer than 5 weeks before I really noticed a big difference. For me, it took perhaps 6 months.

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@hopeful33250

Hello @tigreyes2004
Cymbalta is good for pain, but I found it took longer than 5 weeks before I really noticed a big difference. For me, it took perhaps 6 months.

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@teresa
Hi Teresa
I went to the dr. yesterday & now they want me to take Cymbalta 60mg in the morning & to take a 100mg Gabapentin at night for a week & then increase the Gabapentin. I like the Cymbalta & have not noticed any real side effects. I just worry about constipation. Did you have any problems with constipation? I will try this & see what happens. I return to the dr, in a month. Thank you for your respond. It gives me a little hope bc I am in terrible constant pain. I can hardly walk bc it hurts so much.

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@tigreyes2004

@teresa
Hi Teresa
I went to the dr. yesterday & now they want me to take Cymbalta 60mg in the morning & to take a 100mg Gabapentin at night for a week & then increase the Gabapentin. I like the Cymbalta & have not noticed any real side effects. I just worry about constipation. Did you have any problems with constipation? I will try this & see what happens. I return to the dr, in a month. Thank you for your respond. It gives me a little hope bc I am in terrible constant pain. I can hardly walk bc it hurts so much.

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@tigreyes2004

No medication has helped me with the pn pain except morphine sulfate contin. I take several meds that may be constipating, and I've been in the hospital for bowel obstruction and surgery several times in my stomach. So I take Lactulose at bedtime. It does well keeping things moving.

I don't think that constipation should be an issue if you take something like that. It's a thick, sweet liquid, and I take a tablespoon, but if I start feeling constipated I take a little more.

Jim

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@tigreyes2004

@teresa
Hi Teresa
I went to the dr. yesterday & now they want me to take Cymbalta 60mg in the morning & to take a 100mg Gabapentin at night for a week & then increase the Gabapentin. I like the Cymbalta & have not noticed any real side effects. I just worry about constipation. Did you have any problems with constipation? I will try this & see what happens. I return to the dr, in a month. Thank you for your respond. It gives me a little hope bc I am in terrible constant pain. I can hardly walk bc it hurts so much.

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@tigreyes2004

Constipation has not increased with the Cymbalta, however, I just take 20 mg, once a day. Gabapentin, however, really resulted in serious constipation.

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@jimhd

@tigreyes2004

No medication has helped me with the pn pain except morphine sulfate contin. I take several meds that may be constipating, and I've been in the hospital for bowel obstruction and surgery several times in my stomach. So I take Lactulose at bedtime. It does well keeping things moving.

I don't think that constipation should be an issue if you take something like that. It's a thick, sweet liquid, and I take a tablespoon, but if I start feeling constipated I take a little more.

Jim

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I know most of the medications do cause the constipation so i guess I have to deal with it. I have been told to take Ira Lax. Have you tried that? It sounds like you have been through a lot too. I wish you the best.

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@hopeful33250

@tigreyes2004

Constipation has not increased with the Cymbalta, however, I just take 20 mg, once a day. Gabapentin, however, really resulted in serious constipation.

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I have been on the Cymbalta now for 6 weeks & I see no improvement yet but the Pharmacy said I would not notice anything for a month. now that I am taking the Gabapentin. I hope it doesn't constipate me but I guess i will have things on hand. I have Milk of Magnesia. I don't like to have to depend on that stuff but I guess sometimes you have to.

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@tigreyes2004

I know most of the medications do cause the constipation so i guess I have to deal with it. I have been told to take Ira Lax. Have you tried that? It sounds like you have been through a lot too. I wish you the best.

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@tigreyes2004 Miralax can be quite helpful. I suggest you start with a small dose and increase the dose as needed. Keep posting, I'd like to know how you are doing.

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@hopeful33250

@tigreyes2004 Miralax can be quite helpful. I suggest you start with a small dose and increase the dose as needed. Keep posting, I'd like to know how you are doing.

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@hopeful33250
Hi
Thank you for the info. I was always afraid to try it bc I was afraid I would get diarrhea while I was out. I was told you add to a drink & that it is tasteless. Is that correct? Do you take it only as needed? I better buy some & have it on hand. I will keep you posted. I am also dealing with pancreatitis & abdominal adhesions so I am dealing with a lot. Thank you for your help.

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@tigreyes2004

@hopeful33250
Hi
Thank you for the info. I was always afraid to try it bc I was afraid I would get diarrhea while I was out. I was told you add to a drink & that it is tasteless. Is that correct? Do you take it only as needed? I better buy some & have it on hand. I will keep you posted. I am also dealing with pancreatitis & abdominal adhesions so I am dealing with a lot. Thank you for your help.

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Hello @tigreyes2004, Yes, I add it to cranberry juice (personal preference) I hope it helps you. I have had 3 surgeries of the upper digestive tract, so I too have problems with constipation. You should use it as necessary. My doctor said I can use it daily, if needed, however, I don't use it that frequently. Find what works best for you. You might also try Smooth Move Tea, that can be helpful as well.

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@hopeful33250

Hello @tigreyes2004, Yes, I add it to cranberry juice (personal preference) I hope it helps you. I have had 3 surgeries of the upper digestive tract, so I too have problems with constipation. You should use it as necessary. My doctor said I can use it daily, if needed, however, I don't use it that frequently. Find what works best for you. You might also try Smooth Move Tea, that can be helpful as well.

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Hi @hopeful33250
Thank you so much. I am going to get some. I never had constipation problems till this last abdominal surgery so now that I'm on the new pills that can cause it, I better buy some & have it on hand..

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@tigreyes2004

Hi @hopeful33250
Thank you so much. I am going to get some. I never had constipation problems till this last abdominal surgery so now that I'm on the new pills that can cause it, I better buy some & have it on hand..

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@tigreyes2004 Wishing you well. Please post again and let me know how you are progressing.

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@primghar

I have a similar situation and I guess I’d have to say that there is a time when life isn’t always worth tolerating the intolerable. All of the well meaning therapy and encouragement is just talk.

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Amen my pain is so bad somedays I wished I didn't even wake up! And for the people not in pain, don t know how it feels , God bless us all

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