Kidney stones

Posted by Gary, Alumni Mentor @gman007, Mar 9, 2018

I am usually trying to help folks understand their symptoms, but need some myself now. I have chronic pancreatitis and have had it long enough that the way that pain manifests itself is pretty familiar. I have been experiencing a pain that is about an 8 on the typical 1-10 scale, but is more in my flank and lower than where my pancreas pain is. It is also very tender to the touch and if I move in any way that involves my torso the pain screams at me. I take pretty stri=ong opiates for my pancreatitis, so the pain is not being affected by those meds or if it is, I would be crying without them. Anyone have any thoughts? I already have had a urinalysis and it is not an infection in kidneys, bladder, or urinary tract. I am thinking kidney stone, but have never had the pleasure, so that is simply a guess.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Kidney & Bladder group.

@kanaazpereira

Hi Gary @gman007,

My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is a genetic disorder, that causes stones made of amino acid (cystine) to form in the kidneys and ureters. She was also diagnosed because she had blood in her urine, and excruciating pain on her side, back, below her ribs. An ultrasound and an abdominal CT scan confirmed the diagnosis. A few years ago she passed one stone, but I remember that it was unbearable – the pain was coming in waves, and we had to take her to the ER to manage the pain.

If you have a kidney stone, you might not notice anything is amiss until the stone moves into your ureter; my daughter's pain often starts suddenly, (she has another stone in her left kidney), and as the stone moves, the location and intensity of pain changes. I agree with Colleen, that an ultrasound or CT scan should be able to detect a stone.

Besides the discussion Colleen noted, here are two other conversations about flank pain in Kidney & Bladder:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-am-being-treated-at-mayo-for-membranous-glomerulonephritis-over-the-last/
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/flank-pain/

Please let me know if I can help answer any more questions, Gary.

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Ella, for me the pain from the kidney stone was not constant. It was only really intense when trying to get through the turns of the ureter. It sounds odd, but with the sensations that I had, I could almost track its progress.

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The pain of kidney stones is known to radiate from loin to groin. My son also gets severe back pain. But pancreatitis is so serious in itself I would want to know either way ASAP.

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I'm new to this I went to hospital for kidney stone and it moved from my kidney to my ureter Benn bout week and now I am getting sharp pains in lower back that radiate to stomach almost like when it was moving from kidney but it is coming and going could I have infection that is only symptoms I have can u help me and I'm taking flomax

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@kanaazpereira

Hi Gary @gman007,

My daughter also has kidney stones – she actually has cystinuria, which is a genetic disorder, that causes stones made of amino acid (cystine) to form in the kidneys and ureters. She was also diagnosed because she had blood in her urine, and excruciating pain on her side, back, below her ribs. An ultrasound and an abdominal CT scan confirmed the diagnosis. A few years ago she passed one stone, but I remember that it was unbearable – the pain was coming in waves, and we had to take her to the ER to manage the pain.

If you have a kidney stone, you might not notice anything is amiss until the stone moves into your ureter; my daughter's pain often starts suddenly, (she has another stone in her left kidney), and as the stone moves, the location and intensity of pain changes. I agree with Colleen, that an ultrasound or CT scan should be able to detect a stone.

Besides the discussion Colleen noted, here are two other conversations about flank pain in Kidney & Bladder:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/i-am-being-treated-at-mayo-for-membranous-glomerulonephritis-over-the-last/
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/flank-pain/

Please let me know if I can help answer any more questions, Gary.

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The loin to groin pain is very typical of kidney stones

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@jmaclachlan1

I'm new to this I went to hospital for kidney stone and it moved from my kidney to my ureter Benn bout week and now I am getting sharp pains in lower back that radiate to stomach almost like when it was moving from kidney but it is coming and going could I have infection that is only symptoms I have can u help me and I'm taking flomax

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Hi @jmaclachlan1, Welcome to the group.

Have you made another appointment with your physician to be tested for infection? How are you have you been dealing with your pain? Have you found anything that helps subside it?

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Hi @jmaclachlan1,

I wanted to follow up, and hope you are feeling better?

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i have had stones for years. i just got out of the hospital for sepsis due to a stone the size of a golf ball. has anyone had surgery? i was told i need it.

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I had adominal surgery at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, on Halloween 2016 for a dumbell shaped stone…. one end in my bladder the other in my prostate…. BOTH ENDS WERE ALMOST 1 IN DIA. I also had a 1 in bladder stone remove during my TURP in 7 5015

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@waterboy

I had adominal surgery at Mayo Clinic, Rochester, on Halloween 2016 for a dumbell shaped stone…. one end in my bladder the other in my prostate…. BOTH ENDS WERE ALMOST 1 IN DIA. I also had a 1 in bladder stone remove during my TURP in 7 5015

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did it work? i have stents in now. my body creates to much calcium. I've had stones since the age of 10. now I'm 42 and they keep coming. biggest stone yet. i just want to feel better

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Both surgeries went fine, however the surgery on 7/2015 was NOT cleaned out properly (in both my opinion and the urologist at Mayo)… he stated if I would have had the first surgery there I wouldn't be having the second…. first one with the TURP was done at UW Madison.

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@stoney64

HI, I am Celeste, this summer at the age of 53 i started a journey, sudden, accute flank pain/ radiating to the groin, ER visit #1, ct scan, you have a kidney stone, go home, pass it, it will be painful. OK.. and yes it was, i remember labor, c section, migraine headaches…. but Kidney stone pain…ohhhh my. So we get 70 characters.. first emergency surgery 6 days later, 2 days later, more pain, found two more stones, tried passing one of them it got stuck, 2nd surgery, went 1 month had first lithotripsy, blasted the one left in kidney, 6 wk post op..ct another one, had 2nd lithotripsy yesterday! Had 24 uranalysis done, no results yet…..looked up many possible reasons, preventions, etc, i have started drinking more water only, lowered sodium intake, chocolate, I have a urologist here locally. I am apprehensively trying to stay positive! My faith helps! anyone out there a stoned mess? thanks for viewing

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@stoney64, Good Morning Celeste, and Welcome to Mayo Connect. With my little bit of experience with a kidney stone, I can verify the importance of drinking lots of water. My own stone is gone, and I do not know when it happened. I had no symptoms and it was only noticed because it showed up in a discovered in a CT scan. Since I have a kidney transplant, my doctor had a stone analysis ordered to diagnose the make-up of the stone and to decide if/what kind of treatment might be suggested. In my case, only lots of water (3 L ) daily is my goal.

Here is a discussion where others have talked about their kidney stones – you are welcome to add your comments and questions.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/kidney-stones-1/?pg=1#chv4-comment-stream-header
What questions do you have?

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HI, I am Celeste, this summer at the age of 53 i started a journey, sudden, accute flank pain/ radiating to the groin, ER visit #1, ct scan, you have a kidney stone, go home, pass it, it will be painful. OK.. and yes it was, i remember labor, c section, migraine headaches…. but Kidney stone pain…ohhhh my. So we get 70 characters.. first emergency surgery 6 days later, 2 days later, more pain, found two more stones, tried passing one of them it got stuck, 2nd surgery, went 1 month had first lithotripsy, blasted the one left in kidney, 6 wk post op..ct another one, had 2nd lithotripsy yesterday! Had 24 uranalysis done, no results yet…..looked up many possible reasons, preventions, etc, i have started drinking more water only, lowered sodium intake, chocolate, I have a urologist here locally. I am apprehensively trying to stay positive! My faith helps! anyone out there a stoned mess? thanks for viewing

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