Kidney stones

Posted by Gary, Alumna Mentor @gman007, Mar 9, 2018

I am usually trying to help folks understand their symptoms, but need some myself now. I have chronic pancreatitis and have had it long enough that the way that pain manifests itself is pretty familiar. I have been experiencing a pain that is about an 8 on the typical 1-10 scale, but is more in my flank and lower than where my pancreas pain is. It is also very tender to the touch and if I move in any way that involves my torso the pain screams at me. I take pretty stri=ong opiates for my pancreatitis, so the pain is not being affected by those meds or if it is, I would be crying without them. Anyone have any thoughts? I already have had a urinalysis and it is not an infection in kidneys, bladder, or urinary tract. I am thinking kidney stone, but have never had the pleasure, so that is simply a guess.

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@colleenyoung

Gary, I've had kidney stones. Compared to other stories I heard, my pain was not the worst. However, there were times it was very bad, also an 8 out of 10. These were usually short lived sessions for me, and happened predictably when the stone (5mm) was passing through the tight angled areas of the ureter. Otherwise the stone caused discomfort that felt like an intense restless leg in my flank and backside area, and caused me to lose a lot of sleep. Eventually drinking lots of water and taking tamsulosin (Flomax), I was able to pass the stone.

Have you seen blood in your urine? Bright red blood and an ultrasound confirmed the diagnosis for me.

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Colleen, how long did it take to pass the stone?

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@nancye3

Colleen, how long did it take to pass the stone?

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I don't remember exactly now, but it was a few weeks, perhaps as many as 4.

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@colleenyoung

I don't remember exactly now, but it was a few weeks, perhaps as many as 4.

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@colleenyoung
4 weeks, how did you manage to cope with it for so long? I would have had them rip me open and get rid of that sucker pronto. My last stone was 10mm. My doctor said it could take a year to pass it. I told him to rip me open and he did. They discharged me too soon my doctor said and she called an ambulance and had me admitted.
I just got back from the Urologist and was put on Potassium citrate to prevent them from forming. My liver isn’t producing enough. He said no salt, less animal meat especially beef, no oxalates.
Anyone else taking Potassium Citrate?
He sure took the fun out of my day.
Health & Happiness,
Jake

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@jakedduck1

@colleenyoung
4 weeks, how did you manage to cope with it for so long? I would have had them rip me open and get rid of that sucker pronto. My last stone was 10mm. My doctor said it could take a year to pass it. I told him to rip me open and he did. They discharged me too soon my doctor said and she called an ambulance and had me admitted.
I just got back from the Urologist and was put on Potassium citrate to prevent them from forming. My liver isn’t producing enough. He said no salt, less animal meat especially beef, no oxalates.
Anyone else taking Potassium Citrate?
He sure took the fun out of my day.
Health & Happiness,
Jake

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I haven’t had any stones but do have severe oxylate damage in my kidneys. So I was on potassium citrate until my potassium went to 5.7-6.0. Low oxylate diet for the last year.

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I came across this – You might find it interesting.
Science Saturday: What do Yellowstone rocks teach us about kidney stones?https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/science-saturday-what-do-yellowstone-rocks-teach-us-about-kidney-stones/

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@colleenyoung

I don't remember exactly now, but it was a few weeks, perhaps as many as 4.

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Does your doctor now feel you are stone-free (assuming you are based on an MRI, etc.) and that you do not need to adhere to any particular diet? It seems to me that once a stone-former, always a stone-former, or is that not true? My nephrologist feels there's no problem about diet because an MRI didn't show any. Since I've only one kidney, it could be a little late if one does form.

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@trishanna

Does your doctor now feel you are stone-free (assuming you are based on an MRI, etc.) and that you do not need to adhere to any particular diet? It seems to me that once a stone-former, always a stone-former, or is that not true? My nephrologist feels there's no problem about diet because an MRI didn't show any. Since I've only one kidney, it could be a little late if one does form.

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@trishanna I'm a kidney stone producer. I limit a few things in my diet, but mostly I take care to drinks lots of liquids and then drink some more.

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I take Cranberry Extract once a day. No stones in 5 years. Works for me!

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@ella2000

If the pain passes I doubt it is a kidney stone. The pain is continuous and is unforgiving.

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Depends on the size of your stone…smaller ones can pass, with some pain.Large ones may require surgery

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@djc59

I take Cranberry Extract once a day. No stones in 5 years. Works for me!

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Hi @djc59 and @judyinca, welcome to Connect.
Judy, have you also had kidney stones in the past? Did you have to have surgery?

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@colleenyoung

Gary, I've had kidney stones. Compared to other stories I heard, my pain was not the worst. However, there were times it was very bad, also an 8 out of 10. These were usually short lived sessions for me, and happened predictably when the stone (5mm) was passing through the tight angled areas of the ureter. Otherwise the stone caused discomfort that felt like an intense restless leg in my flank and backside area, and caused me to lose a lot of sleep. Eventually drinking lots of water and taking tamsulosin (Flomax), I was able to pass the stone.

Have you seen blood in your urine? Bright red blood and an ultrasound confirmed the diagnosis for me.

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When I checked out that I had kidney stones by the color ultrasound machine its maximum diameter is four mm, then I use the Febuxostat Tablets, the Sodium Bicarbonate Tablets and the Uralyt-U (Potassium sodium hydrogen citrate by Madaus GmbH Germany). And I used Chinese herbal medicines. I don't know what as the treatment results will be.

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@kidneystoneuser

When I checked out that I had kidney stones by the color ultrasound machine its maximum diameter is four mm, then I use the Febuxostat Tablets, the Sodium Bicarbonate Tablets and the Uralyt-U (Potassium sodium hydrogen citrate by Madaus GmbH Germany). And I used Chinese herbal medicines. I don't know what as the treatment results will be.

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@kidneystoneuser
Hi,
Do those meds prevent stones or do they help dissolve them? Not that I’m gonna wait for that.
I read Febuxostat Tablets can cause heart attacks and strokes.
I take Potassium Citrate and reduce fat, sugar, salt and oxalates. Haven’t had another one since starting that regime. And drinking more water, ick. I can’t drink 3 liters everyday but my doctor said drinking a lot of fluid may not help anyway. First time I heard that. Anyone ever hear that?
Thanks,
Jake

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@jakedduck1

@kidneystoneuser
Hi,
Do those meds prevent stones or do they help dissolve them? Not that I’m gonna wait for that.
I read Febuxostat Tablets can cause heart attacks and strokes.
I take Potassium Citrate and reduce fat, sugar, salt and oxalates. Haven’t had another one since starting that regime. And drinking more water, ick. I can’t drink 3 liters everyday but my doctor said drinking a lot of fluid may not help anyway. First time I heard that. Anyone ever hear that?
Thanks,
Jake

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Jake, I notice that most articles call for 8-10 glasses of water each day. But I guess it depends on what size the glass is, doesn't it?
My hubby was told to dring 2 liters daily, but not for stones, just kidney health. I was once instructed to drink 3 L each day for kidney stones that showed on a CT image (I have a transplanted kidney). But now the kidney stones are gone (don't know how? don't know when?) and I am instructed to drink 2 L.

Mayo Clinic Minute: Tips to avoid summer kidney stones
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-minute-tips-to-avoid-summer-kidney-stones/

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@rosemarya

Jake, I notice that most articles call for 8-10 glasses of water each day. But I guess it depends on what size the glass is, doesn't it?
My hubby was told to dring 2 liters daily, but not for stones, just kidney health. I was once instructed to drink 3 L each day for kidney stones that showed on a CT image (I have a transplanted kidney). But now the kidney stones are gone (don't know how? don't know when?) and I am instructed to drink 2 L.

Mayo Clinic Minute: Tips to avoid summer kidney stones
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-minute-tips-to-avoid-summer-kidney-stones/

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@rosemarya
Hi,
Do you drink 2-3 liters of water/fluids every day? I can only have water and 2 cups of milk a day. Maybe if I could drink other things I might be able to drink that much.
Jake

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