Kardia Mobile 1 lead results...i have no idea what they mean. Help ple

Posted by Love for camping @muppet7777, Jul 17 8:48am

Can anyone tell me if these are good or bad results. I was diagnosed with isolated PACs in February.

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@muppet7777, We are patients like yourself and are not able to read and interpret your ECG charts. You can print them out and have your cardiologist or doctor look at them. I also have a Kardia 6 lead device but used to have the original one used with just the fingers. I think Kardia provides a cardiologist reading service in their app but I've never used it. I had my primary care doctor look at the ECG readings when I had my 2 finger device but they weren't able to offer much information other than what was in the app reading information.

There are a few other members who have started discussions on isolated PACs that might be helpful to learn what they have shared - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/search/discussions/.

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Did the Kardia Moblile say it was normal?
Sometimes when first starting weird waves come up. I had some PVC's and early heart beats and know what they look like in the Kardia Mobile trace. I've seen some Kardia Mobile traces of AFIB also. Yours's look normal to me.

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All it ever says is NORMAL SINUS RHYTHM

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All it ever says is NORMAL SINUS RHYTHM

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@muppet7777 It looks like NSR to me (untrained, no medical experience, just a patient with atrial fibrillation). Your R-to-R intervals are all the same, and you have discernible P-waves. I don't see anything untoward. For a proper and formal diagnosis, you would need a 12 lead ECG performed by a technician and read by a cardiologist, and if you do have an intermittent arrhythmia, it would have to be acting up during the 10-15 second reading.

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@muppet7777 It looks like NSR to me (untrained, no medical experience, just a patient with atrial fibrillation). Your R-to-R intervals are all the same, and you have discernible P-waves. I don't see anything untoward. For a proper and formal diagnosis, you would need a 12 lead ECG performed by a technician and read by a cardiologist, and if you do have an intermittent arrhythmia, it would have to be acting up during the 10-15 second reading.

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@gloaming
I am a veterinarian….i also have the Kardia device….history of AF. This tracing looks normal to me. Those first waves always look weird as the device settles in.

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I am Mayo EP adjacent. I use my Apple Watch (1 lead) my Kardia (6 lead as you can switch between 1 and 6 lead) and also have a Kardia 12 lead at home. My issue is frequent and very symptomatic PVCs. Each of these devices can tell you different things. If I show them my 1 lead they can say what the rhythm is but not the morphology. 6 lead can give a better picture of the morphology and the 12 lead is going to be the best at determining the location in the heart for example where the hot spot is for PVCs. On my Kardia - if there are PVCs or PACs - the app will say Sinus Rhythm with Premature Ventricular Contractions. I will say that these devices are mostly great but not always accurate. I have had several readings that said atrial fibrillation and when I show them my tracing they say - no its not - that’s incorrect. So the apple watch and the Kardia are both great screening tools but they are not infallible. If you are unwell - talk to your doctor. I can tell you that many times I’ve read some of the technical/medical answers on this site to them (I’m purposely not saying who I’m adjacent to because I want to protect their privacy) and they will shake their head and say well some of this is correct and some really isn’t.

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Previous comments seem spot on. I've had Kardia a long time, usually just go with the simpler 2-lead device. I also use a Polar chest strap/watch device when exercising, have an Apple Watch, and bought a Wellue strap for continuous reading. I find I can learn a lot by comparing these data with what the hospital EKG interpretation says, and then looking up the new terms on the Internet. With this background, you can see I'm falling too deep into the data nerd category (I'm an engineer).

Anyway, what I have come to think is that the time intervals between the waves determine the afib more than the ups and downs. Yours look good and I don't see any atrial "flutter," which is a little different than afib, which has different types. Therefore my call is "normal sinus rhythm." Hooray.

Full disclosure: I am no expert either.

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Previous comments seem spot on. I've had Kardia a long time, usually just go with the simpler 2-lead device. I also use a Polar chest strap/watch device when exercising, have an Apple Watch, and bought a Wellue strap for continuous reading. I find I can learn a lot by comparing these data with what the hospital EKG interpretation says, and then looking up the new terms on the Internet. With this background, you can see I'm falling too deep into the data nerd category (I'm an engineer).

Anyway, what I have come to think is that the time intervals between the waves determine the afib more than the ups and downs. Yours look good and I don't see any atrial "flutter," which is a little different than afib, which has different types. Therefore my call is "normal sinus rhythm." Hooray.

Full disclosure: I am no expert either.

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@neilgr777 thank you!!

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@gloaming
I am a veterinarian….i also have the Kardia device….history of AF. This tracing looks normal to me. Those first waves always look weird as the device settles in.

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@plynhky Thank-you. I ignored them because they were virtually identical and in the very same place....too much of a coincidence. The rest of both traces look 'bang on' as we say in the Canadian Army. 😀

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