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Does anyone have any suggestions on increasing bone density thru diet and not drugs at post menopause.
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@contentandwell I'm sorry to hear now JK you have osteoporosis I was only told from my last bone density that the bone was thinning so this is what she told me to do . My Dr. has me do a bone density every 2 years. Yours haven't ? I would think hard about the bone meds they ask you to go on . Mine did mention to me if I wanted to go on them I told her no ,she said good just find a good liquid bone growth product which I mention in another post . Good luck with whatever you and the Dr. decide .
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@lioness From what I have been told by a number of people, when osteopenia is diagnosed, DEXA scans should be done at least every two years and then when it reaches a certain point drugs are prescribed. That was not done at all. My PCP definitely dropped the ball and I think I am done with him. How can I feel confident in him anymore?
I realize that these drugs all have some very real negatives but so does fracturing a bone. I am trying to make an appointment with an MGH rheumatologist for this. As I said in a different conversation about Prolia, you and your doctor have to decide which is the bigger risk, not being on medication, or being on one and suffering side-effects. I want to get the possible doctor I can get so that we can decide what is best for me.
Bone broth sounds like a good idea too, maybe I will start buying it and drinking some each day. How much of it do you drink in a day? Does bone broth taste OK, like regular broth?
@contentwell Yes your Dr did drop the ball IT is every 2 yrs for the DEXA scan I have heard about bone broth but I take a liquid that has everthing in it needed for bones. It is 3 oz everyday and says up to 6oz can be taken . I usually take about 4 oz.
@contentandwell The amount for the bone meal powder I take is 1 rounded teaspoon in a liquid of choice . It isn't gritty I put in juice about 6 oz. once a day . Ive only been on it a short time but feel it is helping as I stated before the pain in my hip isn't as bad as it was before .
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@lioness. I just checked back in your posts to find exactly what this powder is. I will check with my transplant team to see if I can use that. I think I will still need a medication but if I can get started on something that will help before I get to see the doctor, I will.
Thanks for your input.
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I have read a few things about bone meal, but wondered about side-effects. You probably haven't taken it long enough yet, but I would be interested if you have experienced any. This sounds like any easy and "natural" way to add calcium which is so important for those of us with osteoporosis. Since I no longer take prescribed drugs for my osteoporosis, I want to do as much as I can through diet, exercise, etc. Thanks as always lioness for your continued and very much appreciated tips and advise.
@cherriann As far as I know there shouldn't be any side effects since its all naturel and there isn't anything else in it no chemicals. But I will let you know when I,ve been on it at the 6 month point .
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@fotula– Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I'm with you, I can't take any bone strengthening meds. Exercise, weight bearing exercises, walking will help. You also should take Calcium. There are some very good ones that are liquid calcium too. Have you had your vitamin D tested? When I did, I needed 3000mg extra.
I have tried 3 different types of calcium supplements since I had my bone density test and was diagnosed with osteopenea. All of the supplements have made me naseous, gassy, constipated and basically miserable, regardless of when I take them. the pharmacist suggested AlgaCal because it is plant based. Does any one have any first hand experience with that product? all I do all day long is belch and fart, unbelievable. DD
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Hi, @1bellavoce – I also had a bone density test this winter, since I broke my pelvis in two places from a fall on black ice on my sidewalk. The doctor thought I was too young for that outcome, so wanted the testing. I have mild osteopenia.
I do take calcium with Vitamin D, and have for some time. I have never had the side effects you mentioned. How uncomfortable. That's not fun.
I am unfamiliar with the product you mentioned, but perhaps @lioness @cherriann @contentandwell @fotula and others in this conversation will have some input for you. I will say that I've gotten some really good advice from pharmacists before.
Here is some Mayo Clinic information that may interest you on calcium supplementation https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/calcium-supplements/art-20047097
What did your primary care doctor say about the side effects you've been experiencing from the calcium supplements?
@lisalucier @1bellavoce Since I just recently discovered that I have this problem, osteoporosis, I have not yet seen a doctor. I have an appointment set up in January and am on the waitlist hoping I can get in sooner. I plan to send a message on the portal though asking about the best supplement to take in the meantime, I am taking calcium with vitamin D now, and also if he might prescribe PT for osteoporosis. I emailed the therapist I have used in the past for other things and they do have a specialized program for osteoporosis so if I can get a referral for that I will do it.
If I hear anything back from him regarding this I will post it.
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Good morning everyone.
Recent discussions concerning bone density and PMS/menopause symptoms leads me to share this video. I know that there have been a lot of discussions about menopause but it's been a good 2 years since there has been a discussion with Menopause Taylor or Dr. Bobby Taylor on YouTube. I had a very very tough time with hot flashes, depression. Then because of fibroid tumors my uterus was removed and a year later my ovaries were removed. I was immediately put on HRT's and took them for years and years. When I stopped I needed help with depression and other symptoms. I had no idea what was factually happening inside of me. My mother never would admit anything about such things so I was really blind sided. I had read little about it and only caught something here and there in conversations.
This morning I was watching a mature You Tuber who has as her guest, Menopause Taylor. She's a retired OBGYN dr. and is world famous. I would like to share this with you. It's worth every minute. The You Tuber is Hotandflashy.
I am learning, even after this amount of time so much. I didn't know that this is what happens before and after menopause. After watching this what was the most surprising thing that you found out?
Hi, @merpreb – since the discussion on bone density and menopause was one of the threads that led you to post this video on menopause, including what happens before and after, I thought I'd move your post to this discussion where that topic has been discussed. This will help include some of the members talking about it here, such as @1bellavoce @cherriann @lioness @contentandwell and others.
What in particular did you find interesting/surprising about what happens before and after menopause in this video, merpreb?
@lisalucier– Good morning. Like Connect I loved the openness, honesty and science backed information. There's nothing like a female doctor discussing the facts about women's issues. And on top of that, someone who has experienced menopause! What a breath of fresh air!
What surprised me about what happens before menopause were the hormones that regulated each phase. I had no idea that progesterone was for babies and not moms! What interested me about what happens after menopause, both in my life and in the video was how long it takes for the body to adjust to all of the physical losses that these hormones cause when you go through menopause.
Lisa you said that you might not get menopause because you had to have a hysterectomy. As Dr. Taylor pointed out in this video it's not the uterus that determines menopause but your ovaries. Although you no longer have a period you still have all those hormones! You also mentioned that you might not recognize if and when you have a hot flash. I can reassure you that you will know! It's like a furnace is turned on high inside of you, you get red or blushed colored in your face and chest. I wanted to carry a fan around and a water spritzer with me, strip and run through a sprinkler. Winter was a blessing because I'd just step outside, in the snow, barefooted.
I had a horrible time with night sweats, day sweats, every time I moved sweats. I would be drenched form head to toe. And one Christmas my husband bought me a flannel night gown to keep me warm during the winter! I finally went on an antidepressant that stopped both my hot flashes and depression. By the time I switched antidepressants to my current one I had "outgrown" hot flashes. Sometimes it takes 10 years to go through it all. Mine didn't waste a minute of the 10 years. But please, everyone, be assured there are wonderful help aids if this is the path that you chose. And not everyone experiences the severity that I did.
I'm curious to know if anyone had a much easier time.
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@merpreb When I went through menopause I was like a bear it was horrible didn't help my so as he was going through adolescent so we tried to just wade through it the best we could but it did take a toll on him and me . My husband was caught in the middle but was a rock at this time. I still get the hot flashes not as bad but occasionally I will have one . My Mom had them into her 80,s Mine are pretty well gone now. My bone density showed that I have thinning in my left hip I can tell it too if I sleep on that side it hurts but it doesn't now as much , I started to take a naturel bone meal powder to build up bones. I wont know for 2 years if it has helped but am waiting to hear from another person on here what her next bone dexascan is So glad I'm through that period of my life I know what you mean in winter I went our in the snow also
@merpreb My menopause was similar, and to make matters worse I was a manager, and most of the employees were in their 20s, so it was very embarrassing. I finally did get through it, but %$@# my medications have caused them all over again! Not quite as bad but I do throw the covers off a lot at night and I keep a jacket on in the house that I take off a lot.
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