COVID-19 Concerns: How do you help others understand?

Posted by wkcook @wkcook, Apr 18 2:21am

It has gotten so even using Social Media (Facebook, etc) is getting hard. So many people saying this is blown out of proportion and we should just get out and on with our lives. Most look at how many people die from the Flu each year and claim that COVID-19 is no different…Maybe not even as bad.

I don’t believe that, but what can I tell these people to make them understand. They don’t just put their own health in jeopardy when they ignore the guidelines, but also everyone they come into contact with. Many of these people are family. How do you make them understand?

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@wkcook, I am frustrated and bewildered like you and really don't have a response that might "get through to those" who are blithely going about their lives "as before" and who believe statistics are skewed. My response to the many who express these views to me is that I am very compromised health wise; I'd much rather err on the side of caution; I fear a more severe backlash of a 2nd, 3rd wave of the pandemic because so many are not heeding national, state and local guidelines. I can only be responsible for my own actions and decisions but I fear for our nation in the rush to reopen and restart on all fronts.

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Hi @wkcook, Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. You ask a good but very difficult question for anyone to answer. This is just my humble opinion – not a doctor, scholar but just an ordinary citizen. I think you first have to consider who you are trying to make understand. Then what are you trying to make them understand – that they can be infected with COVID-19 and pass it on to others. I'm assuming the second is what you want them to understand. Then you have to know their situation — maybe they are one of the millions that have lost their job and have no income to feed their selves or family, or maybe they are just frustrated, angry and don't understand the risks of protecting themselves and others. You truly ask a profound question that each of us needs to answer for ourselves. I'm a high risk senior citizen and have really taken this seriously for myself and family but the risk is different for each of us.

What will relieve a majority of us is having widespread community testing and that is unfortunately still a work in progress. Here's a recent article from the Mayo Clinic News Network that gives me some hope:

COVID-19 saliva tests: What is the benefit? — https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covid-19-saliva-tests-what-is-the-benefit/

Have you checked out any of the other COVID-19 discussions on Connect? They might help with any other questions you might have and also help give you a break from all the COVID-19 anxiety and news going on.

COVID-19 discussions — https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/covid-19/

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I would also like to know this. Smaller communities just go about there lives not caring about the next person. I am struggling because I am older and need to be careful. They say we have to build up herd community. I can't afford to be out there doing that. I would like to know an answers as well. Thank you.

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This truly is a near impossible question to answer. I completely agree with @johnbishop. When trying to explain the concerns about COVID-19 to someone, even family, it is first important to understand why they may be resisting protective restrictions and evidence published by trusted medical sources. Even facts may not resonate when people are suffering due to financial concerns or they don't (yet) know anyone who has had the virus.

This article from Psychology Today sheds some light:
– Why Aren't Some People Taking COVID-19 More Seriously? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202003/why-arent-some-people-taking-covid-19-more-seriously

In the article, Cathy Cassata explains “optimism bias,” which is a general tendency that we all have whereby we tend to underestimate personal risks. It worth a read.

The WHO recommends when talking with others, stick to the facts. Even that can be a challenge because facts are changing every day, not to mention rumors and opinions that get mixed in with facts. Here's a tip sheet from the World Health Organization
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/covid19-stigma-guide.pdf
Stigma is a real issue. We shouldn't say it's young people or people in urban centers or rural communities or this or that group of people who are causing the problem. There are many people practicing good safety hygiene and there are people breaking and bending the rules everywhere.

Mayo Clinic is following COVID-19 very closely and publishing up-to-date information about COVID-19 at Mayo Clinic News Network. Follow this page for reliable information that support your efforts to stay safe, stay healthy and to discuss your concerns with others. https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/category/covid-19/

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@wkcook Welcome to connect . I hear you . I get upset as well . But the old say is you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. applies here . Even in my own building where I live we have people that ignore what our property manager ask of people signs up everywhere but some just wont do it . Im sorry your loved ones dont believe what the CDC says but all you and any of us can do is take care of ourselves and pray for the other people that they dont catch it . It has even broken up friendships here . Sad

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I pray for everyone affected every night. Thank You!

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@fiesty76

@wkcook, I am frustrated and bewildered like you and really don't have a response that might "get through to those" who are blithely going about their lives "as before" and who believe statistics are skewed. My response to the many who express these views to me is that I am very compromised health wise; I'd much rather err on the side of caution; I fear a more severe backlash of a 2nd, 3rd wave of the pandemic because so many are not heeding national, state and local guidelines. I can only be responsible for my own actions and decisions but I fear for our nation in the rush to reopen and restart on all fronts.

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I also am in a high risk group. I fear for my Wife, a Postal Carrier, because she still has to go to work. We continue to the best we can to protect ourselves. Thank You for the response. Take care.

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@johnbishop

Hi @wkcook, Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. You ask a good but very difficult question for anyone to answer. This is just my humble opinion – not a doctor, scholar but just an ordinary citizen. I think you first have to consider who you are trying to make understand. Then what are you trying to make them understand – that they can be infected with COVID-19 and pass it on to others. I'm assuming the second is what you want them to understand. Then you have to know their situation — maybe they are one of the millions that have lost their job and have no income to feed their selves or family, or maybe they are just frustrated, angry and don't understand the risks of protecting themselves and others. You truly ask a profound question that each of us needs to answer for ourselves. I'm a high risk senior citizen and have really taken this seriously for myself and family but the risk is different for each of us.

What will relieve a majority of us is having widespread community testing and that is unfortunately still a work in progress. Here's a recent article from the Mayo Clinic News Network that gives me some hope:

COVID-19 saliva tests: What is the benefit? — https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covid-19-saliva-tests-what-is-the-benefit/

Have you checked out any of the other COVID-19 discussions on Connect? They might help with any other questions you might have and also help give you a break from all the COVID-19 anxiety and news going on.

COVID-19 discussions — https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/covid-19/

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Thank You, John, for your reply. I have been reading posts on "Connect"…It is hard though. I suffer from anxiety & PTSD. It is very difficult at times to read the stories at times. I try to take it in small doses. Thank You, again.

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@colleenyoung

This truly is a near impossible question to answer. I completely agree with @johnbishop. When trying to explain the concerns about COVID-19 to someone, even family, it is first important to understand why they may be resisting protective restrictions and evidence published by trusted medical sources. Even facts may not resonate when people are suffering due to financial concerns or they don't (yet) know anyone who has had the virus.

This article from Psychology Today sheds some light:
– Why Aren't Some People Taking COVID-19 More Seriously? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202003/why-arent-some-people-taking-covid-19-more-seriously

In the article, Cathy Cassata explains “optimism bias,” which is a general tendency that we all have whereby we tend to underestimate personal risks. It worth a read.

The WHO recommends when talking with others, stick to the facts. Even that can be a challenge because facts are changing every day, not to mention rumors and opinions that get mixed in with facts. Here's a tip sheet from the World Health Organization
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/covid19-stigma-guide.pdf
Stigma is a real issue. We shouldn't say it's young people or people in urban centers or rural communities or this or that group of people who are causing the problem. There are many people practicing good safety hygiene and there are people breaking and bending the rules everywhere.

Mayo Clinic is following COVID-19 very closely and publishing up-to-date information about COVID-19 at Mayo Clinic News Network. Follow this page for reliable information that support your efforts to stay safe, stay healthy and to discuss your concerns with others. https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/category/covid-19/

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Facts are difficult to pin down…Even for me. It takes an extended period of time and lots of data before the reliability of statistics to emerge. But, to me, it looks like even the best estimates don't look too good. I just don't understand how people can look at it and NOT see that.

I will check out these links you provided. Thank you for getting back with me. I don't know why I didn't think to check the Mayo Clinic site before today. I spent 2-3 weeks there due to Gulf War Illness and it was a great experience.

Thanks Again and Have a Great Day

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@colleenyoung

This truly is a near impossible question to answer. I completely agree with @johnbishop. When trying to explain the concerns about COVID-19 to someone, even family, it is first important to understand why they may be resisting protective restrictions and evidence published by trusted medical sources. Even facts may not resonate when people are suffering due to financial concerns or they don't (yet) know anyone who has had the virus.

This article from Psychology Today sheds some light:
– Why Aren't Some People Taking COVID-19 More Seriously? https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psych-unseen/202003/why-arent-some-people-taking-covid-19-more-seriously

In the article, Cathy Cassata explains “optimism bias,” which is a general tendency that we all have whereby we tend to underestimate personal risks. It worth a read.

The WHO recommends when talking with others, stick to the facts. Even that can be a challenge because facts are changing every day, not to mention rumors and opinions that get mixed in with facts. Here's a tip sheet from the World Health Organization
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/covid19-stigma-guide.pdf
Stigma is a real issue. We shouldn't say it's young people or people in urban centers or rural communities or this or that group of people who are causing the problem. There are many people practicing good safety hygiene and there are people breaking and bending the rules everywhere.

Mayo Clinic is following COVID-19 very closely and publishing up-to-date information about COVID-19 at Mayo Clinic News Network. Follow this page for reliable information that support your efforts to stay safe, stay healthy and to discuss your concerns with others. https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/category/covid-19/

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@colleenyoung, Thank you for sharing these thought provoking links with us. Not only the first Psychology Today article but those listed under the first provided new insights for me. The Do's & Don't's and the Words Matter sections of the stigma guide link helped too.

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Most countries and U.S. used self-quarantine which didn't work because young people can be infectious with Coronavirus and have no symptoms! These group is so vocal and they want their countries to operate like nothing had happened!!! Their reason is if you are afraid to get Coronavirus "You Stay Home!"
I read Vietnam is successful in stopping the spread of Coronavirus because the government tested everyone. They forced quarantine who tested positive for 14 days in hospital, military barrack, school dormitory, hotels, etc! The infectious people are forced quarantine and the non-infectious people can go out! This is just opposite in most countries, the infectious people are free to be out and infect other people. If you don't like it, you just have to "Stay safe & Stay Home!" to protect yourself. I think it's easier to tell old people what to do than to tell young people what to do!

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@ew100

Most countries and U.S. used self-quarantine which didn't work because young people can be infectious with Coronavirus and have no symptoms! These group is so vocal and they want their countries to operate like nothing had happened!!! Their reason is if you are afraid to get Coronavirus "You Stay Home!"
I read Vietnam is successful in stopping the spread of Coronavirus because the government tested everyone. They forced quarantine who tested positive for 14 days in hospital, military barrack, school dormitory, hotels, etc! The infectious people are forced quarantine and the non-infectious people can go out! This is just opposite in most countries, the infectious people are free to be out and infect other people. If you don't like it, you just have to "Stay safe & Stay Home!" to protect yourself. I think it's easier to tell old people what to do than to tell young people what to do!

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Hi @ew100, you'll notice that I moved your message to this related discussion called "COVID-19 Concerns: How do you help others understand?" where other members are concerned about people not following safe COVID practices. I encourage you to click VIEW & REPLY and read through the past posts.

You're right that countries around the world have imposed variations to lock-down, quarantine protocols and stay home orders with varying degrees of success. You are certainly not alone in being frustrated by some people openly disagreeing and disregarding restrictions mandated by governments and health authorities. However, I would be cautious about painting any specific group based on age, race, location or any other divisive criteria as the single culprits of not staying home. Many young people are adhering to the rules. It is now well-known that the coronavirus affects people of all ages and even those who are healthy and fit.

In accordance with Mayo Clinic's Community Guidelines (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/), let us remain supportive, inclusive and respectful of all people. Let's use evidence-based information to help educate those who do not understand the importance of staying home.

You might also be interested in this discussion:
I'm high-risk. How to stay safe when things start opening again? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covig-19/

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@lioness

@wkcook Welcome to connect . I hear you . I get upset as well . But the old say is you can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. applies here . Even in my own building where I live we have people that ignore what our property manager ask of people signs up everywhere but some just wont do it . Im sorry your loved ones dont believe what the CDC says but all you and any of us can do is take care of ourselves and pray for the other people that they dont catch it . It has even broken up friendships here . Sad

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@funcountess Hi haven't heard from you in awhile checking in to see if your alright no

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@colleenyoung

Hi @ew100, you'll notice that I moved your message to this related discussion called "COVID-19 Concerns: How do you help others understand?" where other members are concerned about people not following safe COVID practices. I encourage you to click VIEW & REPLY and read through the past posts.

You're right that countries around the world have imposed variations to lock-down, quarantine protocols and stay home orders with varying degrees of success. You are certainly not alone in being frustrated by some people openly disagreeing and disregarding restrictions mandated by governments and health authorities. However, I would be cautious about painting any specific group based on age, race, location or any other divisive criteria as the single culprits of not staying home. Many young people are adhering to the rules. It is now well-known that the coronavirus affects people of all ages and even those who are healthy and fit.

In accordance with Mayo Clinic's Community Guidelines (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/), let us remain supportive, inclusive and respectful of all people. Let's use evidence-based information to help educate those who do not understand the importance of staying home.

You might also be interested in this discussion:
I'm high-risk. How to stay safe when things start opening again? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/covig-19/

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Thank you Colleen for your reminder!

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If you want to help others understand why you are keeping the social distancing rules, send them this Youtube musical video

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