Anyone else out there with extremely high lipoprotein (a)?
Hi! I just found out that I have an extremely high lipoprotein (a) of 515 nmol/L. I'm terrified; it's that high. I'm 58 years old and my total cholesterol is 212. My LDL is 141, and my HDL is just 40. My cholesterol/HDL ratio is 5.3. Of course it's a long weekend and I may not be able to reach my doctor tomorrow. I have watched a couple of informational sessions online from various doctors discussing elevated LP(a), but no one mentions anything close to how high mine is. Is there anyone else out there with severely elevated Lp(a)? Thanking you in advance. Sue M.
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Hello @whineboy,
I'm glad that you joined this discussion on the treatment of Lipoprotein (a). I'm glad to see that diet helped you to decrease your numbers. A healthy diet can certainly affect everyone's general health. Statins, however, have been shown to decrease Lipoprotein (a) as well. Here is a study published in the NIH that substantiates the effectiveness of statins.
https://www.atherosclerosis-journal.com/article/S0021-9150(19)31392-9/fulltext
@csage1010 and others interested in this topic all realize that a combination of a healthy diet as well as statins can make a big difference. in cardiovascular health.
The study cited has been corrected to the study that @hopeful33250 intended to post. Thank you for reporting the error.
Primal Kitchen makes their dressings with avocado oil. I make my own with olive oil, herbs and raw vinegar.
I'm lazy - Primal Kitchen has a range of avocado oil dressings (they are pricey) and Whole Foods has some made with olive oil (I like the romano cheese vinaigrette).
Hi Sue - thanks for your excellent observations. I agree with you 101% that compliance is key to a healthy diet (and other lifestyle changes).
Until late 2018 I ate unwisely, no junk food, but while I tried to make lowfat choices (chicken breast, sandwiches, breads and cakes, lots of pasta, rice, steel-cut oats for breakfast), my health was declining, I was obese and prediabetic. At the end of 2018 I 'got religion' and vowed to change. I asked my cardiologist whether he recommended low carb or low fat, he said go with low carb. I did some reading about low carb vs. low fat and concluded the Ornish/Esselsteyn regimes were too strict for me and I'd never be able to stay on them. I realize they work for many and people swear by them. I decided to give lower carb a try.
I immediately eliminated any foods with added sugar, and did a lot of reading about LCHF (I started with Dr. Lustig's "Fat Chance" and several books by Gary Taubes, and Nina Teicholz' "Big Fat Surprise"). By mid-March 2019 I was eating low carb, and by the end of 2019 I was eating very low carb (any carbs came from green leafy veggies, full-fat dairy, and once every day or two a buttered mini-pita). I can't say I eat keto because I don't measure macros, I just eat what I want until I'm full. I try not to snack. I don't eat bread/pasta/rice/potatoes. I eat lots of eggs, cheese, full fat dairy, salmon and sardines. I do try to limit beef to 1x a week. Since I've maintained a 50 lb weight loss since spring 2019, and my lipids are vastly improved since late 2018 (now - HbA1C 5.1, then 5.8; now - HDL ~ 75, then, HDL ~ 40; now TGs < 85, then TGs > 200; now, LDL is large fluffy pattern A, then, I don't know but expect it was pattern B; morning blood sugar is 85-90), I'm fairly confident that this is a manageable lifestyle for me. I spend a lot of time reading nutrition books to keep reinforcing the importance of what I'm doing. I feel like it has done much more for me than rosuvastatin.
Edit - I've added a lot of fermented foods to my diet - besides yogurt I eat at least one of kimchi, natto, sauerkraut and pickles each day. Despite these salty foods my BP is 115/75 (I do take 5 mg amlodipine), I think salt is not a problem for me because I'm very insulin sensitive (fasting insulin is 3 uIU/mL and my Quest insulin resistance score is 5, more than a bit below the sensitive/impaired cutoff of 33).
Yuck to the stuff on the shelf! I always make my own. It is easy. Just mix olive oil and balsamic vinegar. SECRET => buy quality olive oil and vinegar.
Cooked beans and lentils have not had a noticeable effect on blood sugar, but they always combined with a wide variety of other vegetables, so they are only one part of the meal, much as a serving of meat would be. Even our pea soup is 1/3 green & yellow peas, 2/3 other vegetables like onions, carrots, celery & rutabaga.
Sue
I have made many diet through the years. It was easy to go paleo about 10 years ago (and you probably realize that it is a vegetable heavy diet). Slowly moving away from carbs and towards keto. All organic food, grass fed/finished meats, wild caught salmon and sardines, pastured eggs and eventually got to a 16/8 eating window. I am now in cyclical ketosis, lean, muscular, high energy and consume no seed oils or soy except for nattokinase, occasional legumes & nuts. I do take supplements, no drugs. My lipid ratios and inflammation are stellar. Doing great for someone who is approaching 70.
I have thought about it. Those ideas all sound very good. I even like salsa on salad, with a tiny bit of plain non-fat yogurt mixed in. I can do mostly vegan/low-fat and play around with the spices and herbs, especially those that have anti-inflammatory properties. Thank you for all you good advice.
Fortunately, I am not a meat eater. I do like an occasional piece of salmon, but right now I want to see if I can get my cholesterol down with diet and exercise. I know it will not effect my Lp(a). If my numbers don't start coming down significantly in a month or so, I will have to go on the statin. I have an appointment with my primary care doctor Tuesday and will find out my calcium score (fingers crossed, but I'm not expecting good results). How do you do with adding beans and maintaining good blood sugars? Thank you, Sue McMahon
@csage1010, @glennose, @whineboy, @hopeful33250, and all in this great discussion -
I have always believed that the best healthy diet is one that can work for you, not just for a week or two, but as a permanent life change. Anything extreme is likely to be discarded because it seen becomes burdensome. And the best changes are usually made incrementally, one or two things at a time. If we had "thrown out the cookbooks" and tried to be radical, I doubt it would have worked.
For example, hypertension is a big deal in both my husband's family & mine, so we use very little, and season our food with onions, garlic, herbs and spices. Ditto with diabetes - so sweets are small, select and a special treat. Over the past few years, we have gradually cut back the frequency and portion of meats, and added beans for a protein boost. My husband has even learned to like tofu, and I have learned to like oven roasted vegetables like brussels sprouts... We travel a lot, and pack our own "road food" - carrots, grapes, nuts (portioned), select snack bars, healthy lunches, even homemade smoothies - fast food is a rare big deal, then we find it meh!
How have you made diet changes that you can stick to long term?
Sue