New to exocrine pancreatic insufficiency (EPI): What helps?

Posted by jewill @jewill, Dec 6, 2016

I was dignosed with e p i. Exocrine pancreatic insuffency in 2015 after having a severe reaction to premarin estergen cream then 2 weeks later i had an even more sever reaction to an infusion of reclast it is a biphosphonates l am severly allergic to phosphates, dr did not check for that. i had diarrhea lost 20 lbs destroyed 90 % of my pancreas dr gave me creon 3600 2 with each meal low fat diet that is all the information i got from him did research on web for diet and supplments .need a dr in austin tx that knows more about e p i would apprecate any info on this thank you jewill

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@colleenyoung

Hi @janf27
I moved your message to this existing discussion that I think you were looking for:
— New to exocrine pancreatic insufficiency (EPI): What helps?
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/exocreine-pancreatic-insuffencyepi/

Here you can read through the comments and easily connect with other member living with exocrine pancreatic insufficiency (EPI) like @lon @irr4et @dia2ne @kamama94 @jenatsky @anniegk @ruble429 @mialeigh @carolannd and more.

I think @kamama94 @jenatsky may have some insight about drug coverage. I hope you hear from your doctor or pharmacist soon.

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Thank you for helping us all get connected so we can share helpful info!! Mrs Neal (irret2)

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@irr4et

I can really identify bc I have EPI too bc I ate gluten the first half of my life bc I didn’t know what gluten intolerance was and the damage it does to ppl who cannot digest it. My father was that way too but before he died, he never did learn about the damage gluten can do to our pancreas so he had EPI too but was never diagnosed. He died a sickly person sadly, bc his Primary Care Dr never mentioned this to dad or referred him to a gastroenterologist specialized in Celiac and Gluten Intolerance.
I have been on Pertze which is same as Creon, for 5 years. My insurance doesn’t cover it so it costs me $1200/yr or more.
And I take two Hydrocloric Acid capsules/meal also. It helps us break down (digest) proteins just like Protease in Creon and Pertze do. What it costs for us to just stay alive is unfortunate isn’t it?

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OMG. This is the very first time I have heard any connection between gluten and the pancreas! I was diagnosed with Celiac in 2006, and EPI in 2021, Diabetes and CP just in the past 10 days! How come no doctor ever mentioned this?

Thank you! Now I will start more research.

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You need to find a Gastroenterologist not long out of medical school. More is known these days about gluten’s effects on the pancreas- it happens bc we lack the enzyme to break down gluten and Gliadin. Gluten and Gliadin are a gluey protein I believe.

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@janf27

I was just diagnosed with EPI & have been in limbo for days wondering why Medicare did not have my Rx listed Zenpep, insurance declined it & my inaccessible dr has not responded to me nor pharmacy. So I asked cost w/o insurance $4000+ with Good Rx $3000+ New to all this discussion? Or is this a blog? hoping post will get me back to EPI thread. I was trying to switch from oldest to newest when all I got was a list of other conditions but no EPI? Need help thx much Jan

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Ask for patient assistance from the drug manufacturer

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@lenab

Ask for patient assistance from the drug manufacturer

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Thank you for reply. I am a dinosaur & technology challenged have had hard time getting on. 1st 2 days just got black screen after seeing post from Coord. I know there r others hope I can get to them today. Previously saw bob name but cud not see post. U can’t all be pay $4k for Zenpep. Mon saw new dr rx for Creon that cost $1000 apologize 4 posting here as I’m afraid I’ll get black screen again. Has anyone had side affects from Creon & how did u get discount? Thx to all

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@johnbishop

Hello Jan @jan27, Welcome to Connect. Not sure which EPI discussion you were viewing. Here is a list of the EPI discussions:

-- New to exocrine pancreatic insufficiency (EPI): What helps?: (sorted to show newest posts at the top)
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/exocreine-pancreatic-insuffencyepi/?commentsorder=newest#chv4-comment-stream-header
-- EPI meds expense: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/epi-meds-expense/
-- EPI - Need Advice: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/epi-need-advice/
-- EPI abdominal cramping: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/epi-abdominal-cramping/

You can also click on the Help Center link on the menu near the top of any Connect page on the right side. It's a little harder if you are using a phone to view Connect because you have to slide the menu to the left to see the Help Center link. Here's the direct link - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/help-center/

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Thx a million John will chk ur sites 4 costs & hopefully get rx filled today got creon down to $1000 but still on hold. Thx 4 giving me hope

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@janf27

Thank you for reply. I am a dinosaur & technology challenged have had hard time getting on. 1st 2 days just got black screen after seeing post from Coord. I know there r others hope I can get to them today. Previously saw bob name but cud not see post. U can’t all be pay $4k for Zenpep. Mon saw new dr rx for Creon that cost $1000 apologize 4 posting here as I’m afraid I’ll get black screen again. Has anyone had side affects from Creon & how did u get discount? Thx to all

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Apply thru your doctor for Creon thru MyAbbvieAssist. If you qualify the manufacturer will provide free of charge. You must provide income and medical expenses with application. Your doctor will fill out his part and then fax it in. Even if you receive Medicare you can still qualify.

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@lenab

Apply thru your doctor for Creon thru MyAbbvieAssist. If you qualify the manufacturer will provide free of charge. You must provide income and medical expenses with application. Your doctor will fill out his part and then fax it in. Even if you receive Medicare you can still qualify.

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It takes about a week to get approved. Your doctor can give you samples to tide you over until you get from manufacturer

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@janf27

Thank you for reply. I am a dinosaur & technology challenged have had hard time getting on. 1st 2 days just got black screen after seeing post from Coord. I know there r others hope I can get to them today. Previously saw bob name but cud not see post. U can’t all be pay $4k for Zenpep. Mon saw new dr rx for Creon that cost $1000 apologize 4 posting here as I’m afraid I’ll get black screen again. Has anyone had side affects from Creon & how did u get discount? Thx to all

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I was recently diagnosed with EPI and prescribed Creon this med has been wonderful for me. No side effects so far. I contacted the company and got help paying for this very expensive medicine.
I don’t know a lot about this disease but am trying to learn all I can with websites and help groups. Good luck on your search!

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Hi, im not sure what group i should be on but ill explain what is going on and hopefully someone can give me some ideas or direction. I have IPMNs (a type of pre cancerous cyst) in the body of my pancreas. It’s 1.4 cm within pancreatic body. My main pancreatic duct is dilated up to 6mm. My common hepatic duct is dilated to 15mm. My gastroenterologist repeats yearly MRIs pancreas type. I had my gallbladder removed in 2017 and the surgeon cut my bile duct in the process. I was in hospital 2 weeks before they transferred me to a higher care facility and then i was in that hospital another two weeks. A stent was placed in the damaged duct and later removed. The IPMN was discovered during one of the MRIs. After being released from hospital i had periodic bouts of pancreatitis pain lasting about 30 to 45 minutes once every 2 or 3 months and then gradually subsiding and my liver enzymes fluctuating. In 2022 the pancreatitis attacks ended and i just had occasional discomfort in upper right quadrant. Since my doctor didnt seem concerned about the IPMN gradually enlarging from .9mm in 2017 to 1.4 cm today or about the main pancreatic duct going from 5mm to 6mm or the common bile duct increasing from 9mm to 15mm , I went to a functional medicine doctor who ran a stool sample test with results showing extremely low elastace (I was having bouts of diarrhea beginning in 2021 but my gastroenterologist simply told me to take fiber which did nothing for me). On my own i read that extremely low elastace (mine was 48) at 100 or less definitely means i have EPI. I bought some pancreatic enzymes over the counter and they helped for a while. When they no longer seemed to be helping i contacted my gastroenterologist again and explained what had been going on with Elastace and the enzymes etc. I asked her for a prescription for pancreatic enzymes thinking a prescription might work better. She prescribed too low of a dose and now 3 months later i am on triple the dose. So far it might be working but i need to give it a couple days. Anyway, i had my yearly MRI a couple weeks ago and now my gastroenterologist is suggesting i have an EUS “to see what might be causing the diarrhea”. Last year my gastroenterologist agreed to do an EUS with fine needle aspiration (I had a video call with her and expressed my concern over what i read about the “double duct” (dilated ducts) with IPMNs and being symptomatic and the diarrhea, fluctuating liver enzymes on blood results and thats when she said she would do the fine needle aspiration. She did do an EUS but she did not do a FNA because she said she didnt see anything concerning while she was looking around. She was also 3 hours behind schedule that day. I feel like now after all this time she is finally maybe getting a bit concerned but I have to wonder if I should be looking for another doctor instead and why would i do another EUS with her when i just did one last year. Im worried that my IPMN is cancerous and that has caused the EPI and I cant even talk to anyone about it until i wind up in the ER with my skin yellow. I had stage 4 Uterine Sarcoma cancer in 2006 and thats a type of cancer that can come back 20 years later. Well i suppose probably all cancers can come back 20 years later… In any case I am worried and have been worried about cancer ever since the botched gallbladder removal. If I do have pancreatic cancer, I dont think i want to go through such a serious operation. I worry about quality of life afterwards. I do want to know what’s happening though. If i was told that its cancer then i would like to hear a doctor out on the process. I might not go through with the surgery but I still want and need to know what’s wrong with me. I was just diagnosed with Psoriatic Arthritis and i feel so tired all the time. Sometimes i feel like its just not worth trying to get to the bottom of this when i cant even get my gastroenterologist to admit that my IPMN, double duct dilation, EPI and others symptoms are concerning. I forgot to add that my gastroenterologist prescribed Zenpep. She did not discuss diet or anything else just that i should take Zenpep right before i eat.

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