COVID-19 and MAC: What are you doing differently to protect yourself?

Posted by kathyhg @kathyhg, Thu, Feb 27 8:33am

Is anyone doing anything differently to protect themselves now that we are facing the reality of covid-19?

@heathert

@anniepie yes we are the same, next tuesday we are going to level 2 which is basically level 3 but able to go to drive throughs, lol I bet they will be very busy. Then we are looking at going to level 2 in 3 weeks time and we will be able to move around a bit more but have social distancing. We had 3 new covid cases today, 13, I think in hosp,1 in ICU. We have done very well in New Zealand, thanks to a great group of experts and our very caring Prime Minister.

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@anniepie , woops I meant we are going from leven 4 to level 3 on tues then in another 2 weeks to level 2 all going well.

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@macjane

What type of mask are you using?

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I tried using masks that are given out at doctors' offices. I think they are called procedure masks. I wore one in my elevator and also the time I went to the grocery store about 5 weeks ago. I have severe copd in addition to bronchiectasis and had a lot of trouble with the mask. Without a mask, I was very anxious in the elevator but I need to take my doggie out 3x a day so I needed a solution.

Then, I remembered that I had purchased a n95 bio scarf last fall to wear outside to keep me from inhaling smoke, fumes, etc. It is made from the same thick, non porous fabric as a n95 mask and I couldn't breathe through it at all. Also, it moved a lot so I stuck it in a drawer. But now, I have figured out how to use it for my particular situation.

It's very long and I wrap it around my neck leaving a pocket in the front which I pull up as high as my nose. It's loose so I don't know how much good it is doing except it blocks anything right in front of my face. When I feel someone is too close, I hold the pocket close to my face so it covers my mouth and nose just like a mask. When I feel safe again, I let it go. It blocks my breathing for a short time and only when it's necessary.

Also, I wear a glove on my left hand but leave my right one bare and I only touch the scarf with my right hand. I use the gloved hand for elevator buttons doors, etc. The good news is that rarely is anyone in the elevator and we are all encouraged to wear masks anywhere in the building. The few times someone attempted to ride with me I insisted on riding alone.

I feel much less anxiety using the scarf. And I really need to be able to breathe without anything blocking me. If anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.

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@rits

I tried using masks that are given out at doctors' offices. I think they are called procedure masks. I wore one in my elevator and also the time I went to the grocery store about 5 weeks ago. I have severe copd in addition to bronchiectasis and had a lot of trouble with the mask. Without a mask, I was very anxious in the elevator but I need to take my doggie out 3x a day so I needed a solution.

Then, I remembered that I had purchased a n95 bio scarf last fall to wear outside to keep me from inhaling smoke, fumes, etc. It is made from the same thick, non porous fabric as a n95 mask and I couldn't breathe through it at all. Also, it moved a lot so I stuck it in a drawer. But now, I have figured out how to use it for my particular situation.

It's very long and I wrap it around my neck leaving a pocket in the front which I pull up as high as my nose. It's loose so I don't know how much good it is doing except it blocks anything right in front of my face. When I feel someone is too close, I hold the pocket close to my face so it covers my mouth and nose just like a mask. When I feel safe again, I let it go. It blocks my breathing for a short time and only when it's necessary.

Also, I wear a glove on my left hand but leave my right one bare and I only touch the scarf with my right hand. I use the gloved hand for elevator buttons doors, etc. The good news is that rarely is anyone in the elevator and we are all encouraged to wear masks anywhere in the building. The few times someone attempted to ride with me I insisted on riding alone.

I feel much less anxiety using the scarf. And I really need to be able to breathe without anything blocking me. If anyone has any suggestions, I would love to hear them.

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@rits I feel like I could have written what you just wrote! I don’t know what’s worse – the anxiety if I don’t wear one or not being able to breathe if I do. This is all very interesting. I really thought I was the only person who couldn’t breathe with a mask! My son had brought us some excellent N95 masks. The one time I wore one I almost had a panic attack because I couldn’t breathe! I have a cloth one with a filter that is better. I don’t have any suggestions for you, but at least we aren’t alone. irene5

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@irene5

@rits I feel like I could have written what you just wrote! I don’t know what’s worse – the anxiety if I don’t wear one or not being able to breathe if I do. This is all very interesting. I really thought I was the only person who couldn’t breathe with a mask! My son had brought us some excellent N95 masks. The one time I wore one I almost had a panic attack because I couldn’t breathe! I have a cloth one with a filter that is better. I don’t have any suggestions for you, but at least we aren’t alone. irene5

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Rits. The last time I ventured out to the market in mid March, I wore an n95 mask and almost passed out. I had to leave the store leaning over the shopping cart. I also have afib and found my heart beating unusually fast either due to labored breathing or anxiety or both. I have not been to the market since. I have been using a grocery delivery service.
I ask myself the question of whether I will return to work when my state opens up for business. I feel that even by June it will be too uncertain. And I am most especially concerned about the fall and flu season and the 2nd wave of the virus.
My pulmonologist has recommended that I not be out in public.
I fervently hope that we all stay well and are able to avoid this virus and that there will be a vaccine available soon. Much love to all of you.

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@ginak

@anniepie I’m happy to hear things are getting better in Australia. My daughter is living in Sydney, (moved from Canberra April 1). When I speak to her it seems it never got nearly as bad as it did here in NY. We’ve been “inside” and closed down since around March 15, and are instructed to stay this way until at least May 15. We still have upwards of 350 people who die each day. At the time NY closed, she said everything in Canberra was still open and business as usual. Only the borders were closed. It was about a week after that the the gyms and shops closed in Canberra. She worked in a salon and her husband works in a gym. They moved to Sydney where they were supposed to both be starting new jobs first week of April, but, that didn’t happen because the shops and gyms closed in Sydney then. It makes me wonder if the people in NZ and Australia have better immunity to this virus or perhaps since the weather was warm, it didn’t spread as rapidly. I thought I also heard Sweden or Switzerland had very few to no cases at all. I wish the scientists would look into these phenomena. Maybe then we can find a way to stop it.
Prayers for all.
(My photo is from when I visited her Feb 2019)

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@ginak Hi Gina. Yes I've watched how bad it got in Italy and other places in Europe, then New York and other parts of the USA. I've been thinking about and praying for people where you are Gina. So sad to hear about it all — it's truly frightening, and truly sad.
It's awful to think that in many places this has only been the 'First Wave' of this virus. It could come back again later in a 2nd Wave, or 3rd, etc. Who knows if Australia and New Zealand will still be doing okay then.

For me it's almost like I was living in New York too because I can't leave the house at all. I've been in lock-down for months now because I have 2 immune deficiency diseases — neutropenia and low globulins, I live alone, and nobody can come into my living space. I'm retired and don't work now. It get deliveries to the doorstep and wash everything down, and I have telephone and Zoom or Skype medical appointments. So I'm getting very 'stir crazy' (laugh). Thank God for this forum site.
I sypathisize so much with all of you in the US and Europe. Annie x

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There are a lot of people keeping you in their prayers. Doing this on your own makes me think of how truly brave & strong you are. Be Safe and Take Care. Jane Brown

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@anniepie

@ginak Hi Gina. Yes I've watched how bad it got in Italy and other places in Europe, then New York and other parts of the USA. I've been thinking about and praying for people where you are Gina. So sad to hear about it all — it's truly frightening, and truly sad.
It's awful to think that in many places this has only been the 'First Wave' of this virus. It could come back again later in a 2nd Wave, or 3rd, etc. Who knows if Australia and New Zealand will still be doing okay then.

For me it's almost like I was living in New York too because I can't leave the house at all. I've been in lock-down for months now because I have 2 immune deficiency diseases — neutropenia and low globulins, I live alone, and nobody can come into my living space. I'm retired and don't work now. It get deliveries to the doorstep and wash everything down, and I have telephone and Zoom or Skype medical appointments. So I'm getting very 'stir crazy' (laugh). Thank God for this forum site.
I sypathisize so much with all of you in the US and Europe. Annie x

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Hi everyone! I am thinking of all of you, and pray you all remain safe from this virus. Hugs, Terri

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@irene5

@rits I feel like I could have written what you just wrote! I don’t know what’s worse – the anxiety if I don’t wear one or not being able to breathe if I do. This is all very interesting. I really thought I was the only person who couldn’t breathe with a mask! My son had brought us some excellent N95 masks. The one time I wore one I almost had a panic attack because I couldn’t breathe! I have a cloth one with a filter that is better. I don’t have any suggestions for you, but at least we aren’t alone. irene5

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I cannot breathe in the N95 masks either. My lungs aren't strong enough to pull the oxygen through the mask. I just stay home.

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@flib

@macjane I can't breath when wearing a mask. Anyone else having this difficulty or suggestions.

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I have the same problem. I find it helps a little if I breathe through my mouth. Also, If I find myself really struggling while exerting myself, I stop and concentrate on slow deep breaths until I feel a little better.

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@anniepie

@ginak Hi Gina. Yes I've watched how bad it got in Italy and other places in Europe, then New York and other parts of the USA. I've been thinking about and praying for people where you are Gina. So sad to hear about it all — it's truly frightening, and truly sad.
It's awful to think that in many places this has only been the 'First Wave' of this virus. It could come back again later in a 2nd Wave, or 3rd, etc. Who knows if Australia and New Zealand will still be doing okay then.

For me it's almost like I was living in New York too because I can't leave the house at all. I've been in lock-down for months now because I have 2 immune deficiency diseases — neutropenia and low globulins, I live alone, and nobody can come into my living space. I'm retired and don't work now. It get deliveries to the doorstep and wash everything down, and I have telephone and Zoom or Skype medical appointments. So I'm getting very 'stir crazy' (laugh). Thank God for this forum site.
I sypathisize so much with all of you in the US and Europe. Annie x

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@anniepie I’m glad you are able to get your deliveries. I was having such a hard time getting a delivery in my area, I finally gave up and went to the market myself. With my gloves and Clorox wipes and mask, (which fogs up because of my glasses, lol). I worry about the time we start to re-open. I think people will stop being vigilant and it will cause another “wave” of illness.
I’m sorry you’re so isolated, but you seem to still be in good spirits. I will keep you and the rest of us in my prayers.
And for anyone else with the fogging glasses problem, I heard if you fold a tissue and put it under the nose piece it stops the fogging. It works! Although if it moves you start getting little piece of tissue in your mouth! You have to be VERY careful with the folding and placement. LOL 😂

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@windwalker

I cannot breathe in the N95 masks either. My lungs aren't strong enough to pull the oxygen through the mask. I just stay home.

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Smart woman!

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@ginak

@anniepie I’m glad you are able to get your deliveries. I was having such a hard time getting a delivery in my area, I finally gave up and went to the market myself. With my gloves and Clorox wipes and mask, (which fogs up because of my glasses, lol). I worry about the time we start to re-open. I think people will stop being vigilant and it will cause another “wave” of illness.
I’m sorry you’re so isolated, but you seem to still be in good spirits. I will keep you and the rest of us in my prayers.
And for anyone else with the fogging glasses problem, I heard if you fold a tissue and put it under the nose piece it stops the fogging. It works! Although if it moves you start getting little piece of tissue in your mouth! You have to be VERY careful with the folding and placement. LOL 😂

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@ginak …Thank you for that wonderful tip on fogged glasses!!! Are you here in the US? (somehow I am thinking NY??) I am buying groceries online through Walmart. I drive to their designated parking spots and they come out and load them into my cargo space- no interaction whatsoever. I still do wear my mask as when they load they will lean into my SUV. It takes sometimes several days to get an order placed but keeps me out of the stores. Kate

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@anniepie

@ginak Hi Gina. Yes I've watched how bad it got in Italy and other places in Europe, then New York and other parts of the USA. I've been thinking about and praying for people where you are Gina. So sad to hear about it all — it's truly frightening, and truly sad.
It's awful to think that in many places this has only been the 'First Wave' of this virus. It could come back again later in a 2nd Wave, or 3rd, etc. Who knows if Australia and New Zealand will still be doing okay then.

For me it's almost like I was living in New York too because I can't leave the house at all. I've been in lock-down for months now because I have 2 immune deficiency diseases — neutropenia and low globulins, I live alone, and nobody can come into my living space. I'm retired and don't work now. It get deliveries to the doorstep and wash everything down, and I have telephone and Zoom or Skype medical appointments. So I'm getting very 'stir crazy' (laugh). Thank God for this forum site.
I sypathisize so much with all of you in the US and Europe. Annie x

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First of all all your e-mails come in my suspected spam and I accidently erased them sorry I miss so much. This is Jeanie (lilyoaws) My thoughts go out to you. I also have an immune disease, but not as bad as you do. I can't go to the grocery store, but going to pick up my daughter today. My thoughts and prayers are sent your way. Don't use zoom, just skype. My husband is a security manager at Wells Fargo. It's very dangerous and can take info from your computer. I am going stir crazy too. I'm waiting to hear from Mayo Clinic to have a low back fuse from t-10, L5, and S-1. It's a big surgery, but can't wait to get it over with. They are thinking about opening elective surgeries up. Bless your heart it must be so hard for you. I do puzzles on my computer. I am in pain from my back and have to do an injection with a very small needle into my stomach to increase my bone mass. Sorry I'm talking about myself. Take care of yourself and pray.

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@alleycatkate

@ginak …Thank you for that wonderful tip on fogged glasses!!! Are you here in the US? (somehow I am thinking NY??) I am buying groceries online through Walmart. I drive to their designated parking spots and they come out and load them into my cargo space- no interaction whatsoever. I still do wear my mask as when they load they will lean into my SUV. It takes sometimes several days to get an order placed but keeps me out of the stores. Kate

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@alleycatkate Yes, Kate, I’m in NYC. For more than a week, I tried for deliveries through Shoprite, Stop and Shop, Peapod, Instacart, Shipt, Costco and Key Food. I don’t have a Walmart near me. The nearest one is in NJ. I finally just gave up. My husband usually “gears up” and goes every other week. I haven’t even tried to order any more. But, honestly, I prefer to go, so I know EXACTLY how careful I’m being and getting exactly what I want. Lol. It really hasn’t been that bad. We go early.

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@sueinmn

@flib Many people find it difficult to breathe in a mask, especially with any kind of diminished lung function. It is not your imagination as one man here tried to tell another – the fabric inhibits the movement of air – exactly as it is intended to do. I certainly prefer to be without one, but am able to just push through it. My masks are made of two layers of sturdy quilting cotton, pleated in front, with elastic around the head. They are approximately the same in permeability as the surgical masks (not N95 respirator mask.)
N95 masks are another matter – I truly do struggle to breathe through those, which severely limits my pleasure in working in the garden, where I wear it when digging in or scratching on the soil due to my lung issues. My daughter, an ER nurse, suggested wearing your mask as much as you can stand, even around the house, to build up your ability to breathe through it – that is what they counsel new employees who have trouble tolerating it.
I hope you find a solution that works for you, as I believe many of us will be wearing masks in public for a good while.
Sue

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I'm sorry Sue. this is Jeanie (lily0aws) I didn't read the question. I have been staying home, except to pick up a couple prescriptions where they bring the prescription to you and you don't have to get out of the car. Today though I have to pick up my daughter, I am immune is low. I will where a plain mask. I missed yesterday, because the notifications come into my spam and I forgot to forward it to my inbox. I am lucky I have a good husband, but he is so scared that I'm going to get to Covid-19. I'm having a big back surgery at Mayo clinic ( I live in Iowa) so it's out of network. The most I have had to pay is $650 for my Tymlos and injection to get my bones stronger. They are thinking about opening up the elective surgeries. I'm have anxiety, because I want to get it scheduled. Bless to all who suffers. Prayers are sent your way.

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