CBD oil and depression/anxiety

Posted by lalyfa @lalyfa, Feb 24, 2018

I am curious to know if anyone has had success with CBD or Hemp oil helping with depression/anxiety? I’ve been reading a lot about it and am curious.
I’ve been reading about this and am very interested but would like thoughts/opinions from anyone who has actually tried it or knows someone who has. TIA

Thank you,
Laura

I am also sensitive to many meds. Where I live doctors are afraid to even prescribe Tramadol for fear of losing their license. The physicians I know don't want their careers ended. I guess I can't blame them. Only addictions I have encountered were antidepressants and antipsychotics. Docs did not tell me about this and I now have health issues because of my own ignorance. Things that cannot be helped or fixed. I have depression and now PCP blames pain on depression. I don't have a history of pain with depression. See a therapist. All a PCP is good for is a referral to a specialist. Frustrating and anxiety inducing.

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@gailb

@lalyfa

Welcome to Mayo Connect. I am a Volunteer Mentor and not a medical professional. As such I can offer the benefit of my personal experience, as can others on this site, but not medical diagnoses nor medical opinions. We strive to help each other with the understanding that we are all different and what works for me may not work for you. I have gotten so much good from participating in Mayo Connect that I love it.

Yes, I have used CBD tincture and CBD Living Water for anxiety. I haven't used it for depression as I already take an antidepressant. It doesn't seem to interfere with my Citalopram.

I decided to try CBD when I was withdrawing from Tramadol, a synthetic opiate I had been taking for pain (with 2 other medications) for over a year. As I began slowly reducing my use, I experienced a lot of anxiety and muscle tremors in my legs especially. I know that using a marijuana medication meant that my pain doctor would not prescribe for me again, but I was getting off the pain medications one by one anyway, so I don't care.

The CBD Living Water was my favorite as it just was like drinking bottled water and was immediately available in my system. Within a few minutes of drinking one serving, my anxiety began reducing. It was so benign that I thought perhaps it was just my own thoughts that were calming me down–my belief that it would help. So, I bought the CBD tincture as kind of a test to see if I reacted the same. The next time I was having withdrawal anxiety I used the CBD Tincture. I didn't realize at that time that it can take up to 2+ hours to have effect when you take the tincture, but that was actually good for my test purposes. My anxiety continued for another hour until slowly the tincture began taking effect. I decided then that the CBD Living Water worked best for my anxiety.

CBD Living Water is expensive at $5.00 per bottle with 2 servings. It has no flavor (the tincture had a sweet weird flavor I didn't like) and is easy to drink. I only used 4 bottles to help me through my withdrawal. I don't use it now, but I will if I have anxiety in the future. I am impressed with how helpful it was in my withdrawal. I think it would help in withdrawal from cigarettes too. I did that 34 years ago though.

Are you willing to share what you're anxiety is about? I had panic and anxiety attacks for years and used Ativan and later Lorazepam for them, especially when I had to fly in planes. About 6 years ago I started taking Citalopram antidepressant, and all my anxiety/panic attacks went away. I only had it again recently during my withdrawal process. I know my relief from anxiety is from the Citalopram. I even did 7 zip lines in Costa Rica a little over a year ago. My flights there, to Panama and back were anxiety free. That has been so incredible for me! I love traveling now.

Please let me know if you have questions,. I also hope others on Mayo Connect will let you know their experiences with CBD and Marijuana as medical alternative treatments.

Gail B
Volunteer Mentor

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From the info I have CBD oil is legal in IN. Could be wrong and if so many are selling/buying illegally in the Hoosier state.

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@colleenyoung

Hi all,
With the growing number of posts referring to CBD oil (cannabidiol) and how to use it, I thought I would post a couple of recent articles to help with your research. According to this article by NPR, "By one estimate, the CBD industry has doubled in size over the last two years, and is now worth $200 million. But with this popularity the hype may have gotten ahead of the science."

While there is promising evidence that CBD may help anxiety, the jury is still out. Here are some articles to help you when discussing with your health providers or considering what you need to know when purchasing any unregulated substance:
– Does CBD Really Work For Anxiety? (HuffPost) https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/does-cbd-work-for-anxiety_us_5af4924ce4b00d7e4c18a6ac
– Anxiety Relief Without The High? New Studies On CBD, A Cannabis Extract (NPR) https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/04/23/604307015/anxiety-relief-without-the-high-new-studies-on-cbd-a-cannabis-extract

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@colleenyoung I just saw this post, and I've read the articles you linked. Thank you so much for the links. Both articles are excellent and provide hope that CBD will be researched to the point of legalization for treatment of anxiety, depression, PTSD, and other problems, as well as the already FDA approved use for 2 types of epilepsy. My only concern about legalization is that pharmaceutical companies will begin dispensing it at highly increased costs. The good thing about legalization is that all CBD product will be regulated in their formulations so we know exactly what we are taking.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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@parus

I have copied Colleen Young's posted links to information about CBD use for anxiety, PTSD, and depression. The articles are excellent and encouraging. If you're willing to do your own experiment, and it's legal where you live, you may want to try CBD as an alternative to the medications you have previously taken. One article mentioned a research using 400 ml of CBD per day per person. That's a huge dose! I use a CBD product that is .75 ml CBD, and .25 mL THC per dose. I use 3-4 doses at that level twice a day, and it works very well for me.

"While there is promising evidence that CBD may help anxiety, the jury is still out. Here are some articles to help you when discussing with your health providers or considering what you need to know when purchasing any unregulated substance:
– Does CBD Really Work For Anxiety? (HuffPost) https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/does-cbd-work-for-anxiety_us_5af4924ce4b00d7e4c18a6ac
– Anxiety Relief Without The High? New Studies On CBD, A Cannabis Extract (NPR) https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/04/23/604307015/anxiety-relief-without-the-high-new-studies-on-cbd-a-cannabis-extract "

I hope you find some help and relief with this unconventional treatment with CBD.

Gail
Volunteer Mentor

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Recently, discussion in some groups has focused on cannabidiol (CBD), a naturally occurring cannabinoid constituent of cannabis and medical marijuana. With these conversations come several concerns and the need for clarification.

1. Evidence vs usage
To date CBD to treat epilepsy (in children) is the only condition that has some scientific evidence supporting its use in some cases. CBD for pain, anxiety, inflammation and sleep remains as yet scientifically unproven and requires more validated research.

According to this article by NPR (https://n.pr/2HnI1SM), “By one estimate, the CBD industry has doubled in size over the last two years, and is now worth $200 million. But with this popularity the hype may have gotten ahead of the science.”

While there is promise and ongoing research into CBD effectiveness in managing pain, anxiety, inflammation and sleep, the jury is still out. Here are recent articles that help clarify.

– CBD Oil: All the Rage, But Is It Safe & Effective? (WebMD) https://wb.md/2K11QfD
– Does CBD Really Work For Anxiety? (HuffPost) https://bit.ly/2wF1VUs
– Anxiety Relief Without The High? New Studies On CBD, A Cannabis Extract (NPR) https://n.pr/2HnI1SM

2. Industry is unregulated
CBD is not regulated. “Because of the legally murky nature of marijuana, the FDA has not stepped in to regulate products like CBD oil.” States are struggling to put regulations in place. … Meanwhile, a 2017 study led by Bonn-Miller found that nearly 7 of 10 CBD products didn’t contain the amount of marijuana extract promised on the label.” Read more about regulation in this WebMD article (https://wb.md/2KCS4UW).

There are risks associated with medical marijuana CBD. See this post from a Mayo Clinic pharmacist (https://mayocl.in/2KDyip2). People should also consider interactions with other drugs and always discuss the use of CBD with their medical provider and consult with a pharmacist.

3. Concerns about attracting sellers and fraudsters
With the increasing activity related to CBD on Connect comes the unwanted attention of commercial sellers of product and fraudsters. Mayo Clinic Connect’s Terms of Use (https://connect.mayoclinic.org/terms-of-use/) prohibit “any material which … (viii) contains any information, software, or other material of a commercial nature; (ix) contains solicitations or advertisements of any kind; (x) constitutes or contains false or misleading indication of origin or statement of fact…”

Our Moderating team keeps a watchful eye for people with commercial interests posing as members on Connect. If you see posts that contravene the Terms of Use, please report them. Here's how: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/about-connect/tab/moderators/

4. Is it legal?
It has often been stated or asked about the legality of CBD in all 50 states. According to this article in Forbes “CBD is not legal in all 50 states (https://bit.ly/2KFY2nV) — even though it is widely available. At best, the law is murky and open to differing interpretations.”

– Is CBD Legal? The Legal Status of CBD in 2018 (Medium) https://bit.ly/2EEuwYB
– The legal status of cannabis (marijuana) and cannabidiol (CBD) under U.S. law (Elsevier 2017) https://bit.ly/2tk68Zu
– State Medical Marijuana Laws (2018) https://bit.ly/1udxSs4

5. Information from Mayo Clinic
Mayo Clinic provides the following information on medical marijuana https://mayocl.in/2KyrGvp

6. Get informed
Information about the use, efficacy and legality of CBD and medical marijuana is constantly being updated. Do your research. It is advisable to talk with a health care professional if you have questions.

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Thank you for the very thoughtful post. While science will eventually find out the facts about benefits and risks of CBD – either with THC or without, I am in Montana where medical marijuana is legal and there is a state lab that tests the components of each CBD and provides a state lab report in sticker form that is attached to each CBD sale. So far the makers claims are extremely close to state lab reports. I hav CMT and my CBD contains 11% THC; the pins and needles effect is greatly reduced, helping me to sleep more easily. FYI, I take one capsule twice a day.

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One of the Mayo Clinic Connect volunteer mentors whom many of you have met, @gailb, was featured in the Connect member spotlight today. Hope you enjoy getting to know more about @gailb and her story, here:

Back and Neck Pain Lead to New Connections: Meet @gailb: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/newsfeed-post/gailb/

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Speaking from experience. I have been using CBD oil 300 mg to control major- depression cycles for some time, and so far is working. I started using CBD since I was off Psych-medication for some time now. I was skeptic in using something coming of Marijuana because of the bad rap it has on society; fortunately the good chemical cbd don't give you a high or any psychotic ride since it doesn't have it's evil brother TCH. My wife is being using it for pain management after back surgery that she was on morphine for years, and the pain scale have gone from a 6 to a 2-3. +++ Make sure you buy quality oil that contain around 60% CBD as the main ingredient with vitamins B; no matter which form you decide to use at a reputable seller since there's many counterfeit being sold as genuine out there in the internet !+++ psst an added bonus: the product works well for our insomnia !!! 😀

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@mayowithlettuce

Speaking from experience. I have been using CBD oil 300 mg to control major- depression cycles for some time, and so far is working. I started using CBD since I was off Psych-medication for some time now. I was skeptic in using something coming of Marijuana because of the bad rap it has on society; fortunately the good chemical cbd don't give you a high or any psychotic ride since it doesn't have it's evil brother TCH. My wife is being using it for pain management after back surgery that she was on morphine for years, and the pain scale have gone from a 6 to a 2-3. +++ Make sure you buy quality oil that contain around 60% CBD as the main ingredient with vitamins B; no matter which form you decide to use at a reputable seller since there's many counterfeit being sold as genuine out there in the internet !+++ psst an added bonus: the product works well for our insomnia !!! 😀

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I took hempworx for 1 month and was feeling myself all the time. Then I had to stop it bc I didn't have a 2nd bottle handy. Now I bought 4 bottles of 750 mg full spectrum. I started 2 weeks ago. It seems I jumped too fast the dose. How long have you been on cbd oul and how do you recommend to take it? I am feeling tired but it seems to come from anxiety: it comes and goes. I am cutting g from 20 drops to 10 drops then I went so fast from 5 drops to 10 and then to 20 drops. I am cutting back to 10 and will go from that up 1 drop more every 3 days. Do you think is it a good plan?

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I just take as needed 1/2 to 1 full dropper (0.5ml-1 ml ) taken under the tongue. Since I am concern my body will get just to more dosage to get the same effect and to save money I take it every 48 or more days as my body needs it. I am trying to save money this thing can run expensive you know?

I find that cbd stays in my system for about 48 or more days in my system using the same dosage. I've being taken have been taken this product for about 2 months already & so far so good. Eventually I will need to get a doctor's prescription but I don't know if my insurance will pay for it?

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@mayowithlettuce

I just take as needed 1/2 to 1 full dropper (0.5ml-1 ml ) taken under the tongue. Since I am concern my body will get just to more dosage to get the same effect and to save money I take it every 48 or more days as my body needs it. I am trying to save money this thing can run expensive you know?

I find that cbd stays in my system for about 48 or more days in my system using the same dosage. I've being taken have been taken this product for about 2 months already & so far so good. Eventually I will need to get a doctor's prescription but I don't know if my insurance will pay for it?

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Do you mean you take a standard dose during 48 days without changing it? I've been taught to take it consistently and upper the dose in a gradual way till I find my sweet spot. That's microdosing just can go up 1 drop each time. Maybe each brand has different indications on dosages. Can it be? When did you start to see changes in your mood and anxiety?

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@mayowithlettuce

I just take as needed 1/2 to 1 full dropper (0.5ml-1 ml ) taken under the tongue. Since I am concern my body will get just to more dosage to get the same effect and to save money I take it every 48 or more days as my body needs it. I am trying to save money this thing can run expensive you know?

I find that cbd stays in my system for about 48 or more days in my system using the same dosage. I've being taken have been taken this product for about 2 months already & so far so good. Eventually I will need to get a doctor's prescription but I don't know if my insurance will pay for it?

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Sorry. I used the standard dose consistently for 48 hrs or more days and still work for me. The Last time I felt the depression crawling back was about 72hrs after taking a 1ML shot. My wife takes it about every 3 to 4 days 1ML as well for her pain.

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