2025 Fall Booster: Get it or not?

Posted by greenshade @greenshade, Sep 30 4:05pm

I am in a quandary. I've had LC since 2022. I was fully vaccinated before my first infection. In Oct 2023, I got a Pfizer booster, and my symptoms flared up and set me back for months. I have avoided boosters since then. I am mostly well now (finally!), although I still experience some fatigue and joint pain. The question is: Do I get the 2025 fall booster or not? If so, do I receive the Pfizer booster in line with my prior vaccines and boosters? Should I go to Novavax instead? Is it less problematic? Any firsthand knowledge is appreciated. THX

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greenshade | @greenshade | Oct 2 11:44am

In reply to @diverdown1 "@greenshade I did not take the vaccine the first go around. I have had long COVID..." + (show)

@diverdown1 So the research to date is mixed. Some people with Long COVID are not adversely affected by taking the vaccines/boosters. However, there is a subset of people who have Long COVID who are adversely affected by taking the vaccines/boosters. For that subset, taking the vaccines/boosters can result in a setback of symptoms. It is different for everyone, but the setback can range from weeks to months, years, or more. The last time I had a booster was in Oct 2023, and I don't think I am entirely recovered even now. So the decision to get the vaccine or booster comes down to weighing the risk of not being vaccinated/boosted and getting COVID and potentially being very sick, OR being vaccinated/boosted to avoid severe illness, but then potentially having a setback of symptoms. It is an individual decision. My primary doctor told me he cannot advise me, that I have to weigh the pros and cons, and decide for myself. I've decided not to get the booster.

sanDGuy | @sandguy | Oct 3 7:09pm

In reply to @bermuda8 "Have to remember that the study referenced above addresses only neuropsychiatric symptoms, not other symptoms. After..." + (show)

@bermuda8
Yes, I was quite struck by that terminology as well!
There are indeed many other takes on the variable symptoms, never mind the etiology, of LC/CFS/ME, e.g. chronic inflammation, overactive immune response, reactivated latent viruses, etc.
It's so disappointing that after DECADES of research we have nothing definitive.
Me, I will patiently await the two year mark upcoming in about eight months, following my single bout of Covid, hoping that this lifts as it did when I first had it in the late 80s.
In the meantime, I will indeed continue to get boosters, as I feel more threatened by catching the virus again, as compared to being vaccinated, to which I don't particularly react. But individuals do vary, so I respect that.

And I feel as well that we can't figure this illness out because the UFO denizens don't WANT us to figure it out!

greenshade | @greenshade | Oct 3 8:35pm

In reply to @sandguy "@bermuda8 Yes, I was quite struck by that terminology as well! There are indeed many other..." + (show)

@sandguy There is no telling how long it will take for researchers to figure this out. At soon-to-be 77 years old, I doubt I will see definitive answers, let alone actual cures, within my lifetime. In the mean (two meanings of the word) time, one has to just wing it. If I had not had a negative response to the booster, I would be first in line to keep up to date with them. But my experience with the last booster in Oct 2023 set me back dramatically, and I am still not back to where I was before having it. My suspicion - a dark one, I admit - is that COVID will have numerous health outcomes long after first exposure. Just as Hepatitis-C can linger undetected for decades and then flare up with rapid damage to the liver, I suspect COVID may have latent and damaging effects on our bodies.

boykin1017 | @boykin1017 | Oct 4 2:40am

NO man. Too many injuries, and haven’t you seen by now the jabs havent prevented covid infections? It’s a risk not worth taking.

chuckstran | @chuckstran | Oct 5 12:38am

No more for me.

Done with any vaccine that "moderates" (read that mutates) my RNA.

The vaccines left me feeling "not right," and I haven't felt right since. I've had COVID twice and admittedly, the first bout could have very well killed me. Maybe the vcaccine saved my life.

Or maybe not. But this winter, I'm trying to be wise and self-isolating to some extent, not wearing a mask when I do go out, getting my routine flu shot, being assiduous about my self-care, doing all I can to build my immune system, and praying.

My hope is in God, not big pharma.

Editor's Note:
COVID-19 vaccines cannot affect your DNA.

Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines only give your cells instructions for how to make a protein found on the surface of the COVID-19 virus. Those instructions, called messenger RNA or mRNA, allow your muscle cells to make the protein pieces and display them on cell surfaces. This causes your body to make antibodies.

Once the protein pieces are made, the cells break down the instructions and get rid of them. The mRNA from the vaccine doesn't enter the nucleus of the cell, where your DNA is kept.

The Novavax COVID-19 vaccine uses only the parts of a virus that best stimulate your immune system. This type of COVID-19 vaccine contains harmless S proteins. Once your immune system recognizes the S proteins, it creates antibodies and defensive white blood cells.
https://youtu.be/RvR_yf_haqQ?si=rG_ErYjRCyVc2I7t

greenshade | @greenshade | Oct 5 12:04pm

@chuckstran My thoughts, exactly. Thx for your reply.

suefish | @suefish | Oct 5 5:49pm

In reply to @greenshade "@chuckstran My thoughts, exactly. Thx for your reply." + (show)

@greenshade, I can join you.
suef

Terri Thompson | @territhompson1956 | Oct 5 9:31pm

I will not take anymore COVID vaccines. Blood clots are the #1 find in deceased patients after receiving the COVID vaccine. It of occurs 30-180 post COVID vaccine. I’ve had 5 boosters. No more for me.

h2998sc | @h2998sc | Oct 6 1:36pm

In reply to @greenshade "@sandguy There is no telling how long it will take for researchers to figure this out...." + (show)

@greenshade I'd say that covers it fully.I'm 72 this month.I'm doing really good now...have lc 5 years now.Started a targeted supplement regime 3 years ago for specific issues.I do think these have gotten me to where I am now...and of course,The Lord God almighty.Dr Paul Anderson youtube.Want answers?He's yer guy.Totally legit.Check him out.And stay in the fight,God Bless.
I won't be getting covid shots now either.I'm virtually at the tail end of my illnesses.I don't want to load up with more covid cells or whatever.

sanDGuy | @sandguy | Oct 6 2:24pm

In reply to @chuckstran "No more for me. Done with any vaccine that "moderates" (read that mutates) my RNA. The..." + (show)

@chuckstran
Thank you editor, my eyebrows really shot up when I read that sentence about vaccine moderating one's DNA.

Obviously this is a personal decision, and some people do indeed react negatively to the vaccinations, though this is really rare in comparison to those it helps.
And no, it's untrue that "jabs" don't prevent infections, although much of the time they tend to at least minimize intensity of the illness if you DO succumb.
I've had Covid only once, and I've had about 10 "jabs" in total. Will be getting this latest formula within a couple of weeks.

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