Introductions: Are you caring for someone with dementia?

Posted by Scott, Volunteer Mentor @IndianaScott, Aug 30, 2016

My mother-in-law (MIL) had what was finally determined to be frontal temporal dementia. She had the disease from her 60s until she passed away at 86. My wife was especially involved in her mom's caregiving due to some serious denial in other family members and a GP who refused to diagnose, even when significant deficits were obvious (mistaking the UPS deliveryman for her husband and not knowing the difference between roads and sidewalks). The most unfortunate result of this, to me, was the lost time when my MIL and her family could have been having meaningful and important discussions about significant matters of importance to her and them.

In my wife's years of fighting her brain cancer, she, too, exhibited many of the aspects of mental degradation and physical losses one would affiliate with a dementia patient.

As an aside, for several years I worked for the national Alzheimer's Association raising money for their research programs nationwide.

I wish everyone struggling with this disease and their caregivers and families strength and peace.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Caregivers: Mild Cognitive Impairment (MCI) & Dementia Support Group.

Profile picture for vimarbarr @vimarbarr

First time post here but I have been reading the forums for a bit. My Mom was diagnosed last year with dementia and early Alzheimer's. She had lived with my husband and I for years but the amount of care and oversight increased significantly as the illness progressed. I learned what I could from forums and friends that had been caregivers. I did keep in mind that the disease affects people differently. I had to take over Mom's medication after she double dosed herself and ended up in the hospital. She became very apathetic toward everything not wanting to leave the house, bath or even eat regularly. She still recognized people and said she was homesick and wanted to go home to see family and friends. I was able to organize with my siblings and get her home. She passed a couple weeks after I was able to get her home. She was hospitalized with a severe kidney infection. She then had a massive stroke or heart attack. The physician said she had the infection for a long time. This news hit me like a ton of bricks. How did I miss it? Was I not paying enough attention to her? She never complained of pain. It was after that I learned some dementia patients do not register pain like everyone else. She had the kidney infection but was not saying anything about pain or discomfort so I thought she was doing well physically. How does one manage that part of the illness when pain is a sign of something wrong but your loved one does not feel the pain or does not know to tell you.

I so appreciate this forum and the support given. Much pray and hugs to caregivers of those with this disease. It is very draining of energy and spirit to watch someone go through.

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Hello @vimarbarr and welcome to the Caregivers: Dementia support group on Mayo Connect. I am so sorry for your recent loss.

I would ask you to be gentle with yourself. I have no doubt that you did the best you could under the circumstances. I'm sure that neither you nor your mom could have known the extent of her infections. It just wasn't something visible or known and that is not something that you can be responsible for.

Alzheimer's has a way of taking away from the patient the ability to feel and understand what is going on with them. It is unfortunate but part of the disease process.

It would be good to find something that you can do to take care of yourself now. Perhaps some counseling would be helpful for you to put the past few years of caregiving in perspective? What types of support system is available to you?

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Profile picture for vimarbarr @vimarbarr

First time post here but I have been reading the forums for a bit. My Mom was diagnosed last year with dementia and early Alzheimer's. She had lived with my husband and I for years but the amount of care and oversight increased significantly as the illness progressed. I learned what I could from forums and friends that had been caregivers. I did keep in mind that the disease affects people differently. I had to take over Mom's medication after she double dosed herself and ended up in the hospital. She became very apathetic toward everything not wanting to leave the house, bath or even eat regularly. She still recognized people and said she was homesick and wanted to go home to see family and friends. I was able to organize with my siblings and get her home. She passed a couple weeks after I was able to get her home. She was hospitalized with a severe kidney infection. She then had a massive stroke or heart attack. The physician said she had the infection for a long time. This news hit me like a ton of bricks. How did I miss it? Was I not paying enough attention to her? She never complained of pain. It was after that I learned some dementia patients do not register pain like everyone else. She had the kidney infection but was not saying anything about pain or discomfort so I thought she was doing well physically. How does one manage that part of the illness when pain is a sign of something wrong but your loved one does not feel the pain or does not know to tell you.

I so appreciate this forum and the support given. Much pray and hugs to caregivers of those with this disease. It is very draining of energy and spirit to watch someone go through.

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Hi @vimarbar, I remember my dad, who had dementia, once had a tooth extraction and did not have anesthetic because he didn't feel any pain.

Recently, I told my husband (moderate Alzheimer's Disease) that he was going for an eye exam and he said, good, he was having trouble with his right eye. He never mentioned it before and after the exam, we found out he needed a cataract extraction as he could see nothing. I had no clue! His vision seemed fine to me and he never complained about it.

As caregivers, we do what we can, but we can only do so much with the information we have. You were giving your mom the best care you could, and the disease derailed it. Don't blame yourself for not being vigilant enough.

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Hi @daisy2011 - I'm Debbra. My husband was diagnosed with Mild Cognitive Impairment, which seems to be progressing toward dementia. I totally relate to your loneliness. For me, the erosion in emotional connection is the hardest part. My heart is going out to you. Stay here on Connect. it's a great antidote to lonely evenings! Is there anything you do to be less lonely? Visit with friends? Call family? I'd love to hear what helps for you. For me it's calling two friends: one to keep my husband company and one to keep ME company - separately!

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It's hard for me, especially at night, to be alone. My wife has lived in a memory care facility since July. I can take care of all my physical and environmental needs, but the absence of human companionship, even if it's not very high quality, is hard. I am shy by nature, and have a hard time reaching out to people. My wife and I moved into a large condominium building about 2 1/2 years ago, and her condition kept me busy with her almost constantly. I have made some friends here, but they party a little harder than I can tolerate physically, although they're nice people and want to include me. I don't have children, and sometimes feel that my life has lost a sense of purpose, although I do a lot of volunteering in the community. I guess I should try to engage with my imperfect friends and in activities that I'm not very interested in, like going to church, just to be around people more often. Any other suggestions? I am close with three sisters and stay in touch with them via Zoom, phone, and texting, but they also have their own lives.

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Hello, group, I’m Cathy. My sister and I are fortunate to still have our parents with us (86 and 87). Our mother has been diagnosed with dementia after years of the “cognitive decline” diagnosis. Our father has PSP, which has dementia-like components. Both of our parents are simultaneously on a rapid decline. There is so much to our story, but I wanted to introduce myself and say thank you to you who have shared. While I may not be able to offer advice or experience with all situations, please know by sharing your experiences I feel less alone.

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I am wondering if and what type medication any of you caregivers are giving for your loved one with Alzheimers that are in mid to late stage. We recently took mom of Donepezil as the doc said it was more for early onset and they had a different med for more mid stage and to see if it was the cause of some ongoing stomach issues - it was not. While she said neither was a cure but to slow down the progress, I figure why not. So can anyone share meds or anything they are giving their mid to their mid to late mid late stage Alzheimer sufferer.

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Profile picture for bookjockey @bookjockey

Hello, group, I’m Cathy. My sister and I are fortunate to still have our parents with us (86 and 87). Our mother has been diagnosed with dementia after years of the “cognitive decline” diagnosis. Our father has PSP, which has dementia-like components. Both of our parents are simultaneously on a rapid decline. There is so much to our story, but I wanted to introduce myself and say thank you to you who have shared. While I may not be able to offer advice or experience with all situations, please know by sharing your experiences I feel less alone.

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my wife is taking Memantine (10 mg) twice a day and Ashoganda root extract for those times when she becomes very anxious or upset. The Ashoganda was recommended to us by a pharmacist (he takes it himself). My wife has tried a bunch of others prescribed by her neurologist but because of the side effects, she is off them. hope this helps

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Profile picture for bookjockey @bookjockey

Hello, group, I’m Cathy. My sister and I are fortunate to still have our parents with us (86 and 87). Our mother has been diagnosed with dementia after years of the “cognitive decline” diagnosis. Our father has PSP, which has dementia-like components. Both of our parents are simultaneously on a rapid decline. There is so much to our story, but I wanted to introduce myself and say thank you to you who have shared. While I may not be able to offer advice or experience with all situations, please know by sharing your experiences I feel less alone.

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my wife is taking Memantine (10 mg) twice a day to "slow" the progression. (not sure if it is working). She is also taking Ashoganda root ( Galia) for anxiety (and it does work). none of the other medications she was prescribed worked WITHOUT serious sideeffects. The only thing that does work is exercise! she will get on a treadmill at the gym and walk for 90 minutes! the cost of the gym is cheaper than the medications and it works without any side effects. HER NEUROLOGIST HAS STATED many times that exercise is the only proven things that works for mid-late stage dementia .

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I am wondering if and what type medication any of you caregivers are giving for your loved one with Alzheimers that are in mid to late stage. We recently took mom of Donepezil as the doc said it was more for early onset and they had a different med for more mid stage and to see if it was the cause of some ongoing stomach issues - it was not. While she said neither was a cure but to slow down the progress, I figure why not. So can anyone share meds or anything they are giving their mid to their mid to late mid late stage Alzheimer sufferer.

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Hi @bunzman, my husband was on Donepezil for a couple of years after his diagnosis. It didn't make much of a difference to his memory after a while. He did have a lot of anxiety and some compulsive behaviors so the neurologist took him off Donepezil and prescribed Citalopram, an anitidepressant, 20 mg everyday. He's been taking it for a few years. He functions better, and is always in a good mood. He still gets obsessed from time to time, but he's manageable and not drugged up. He rests a lot, but will do some exercise and work on a 35 or 16 piece jigsaw puzzle once in a while (I have to coax him).

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Profile picture for bookjockey @bookjockey

Hello, group, I’m Cathy. My sister and I are fortunate to still have our parents with us (86 and 87). Our mother has been diagnosed with dementia after years of the “cognitive decline” diagnosis. Our father has PSP, which has dementia-like components. Both of our parents are simultaneously on a rapid decline. There is so much to our story, but I wanted to introduce myself and say thank you to you who have shared. While I may not be able to offer advice or experience with all situations, please know by sharing your experiences I feel less alone.

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Dear Bunzman,we tried a few supplements.... turmeric,lions mane mushroom, and some other med ...... none worked ! A lot of drugs advertise being good for dementia etc. but , unfortunately do nothing but empty your wallet! I did a lot of researching on the matter ,and so far the best help that I found by that research , was eating certain seafood twice a week . Try to get wild caught fish if possible.. salmon ,tuna,flounder, cod,sardines to name a few ... do a search on that subject ! The seafood made the biggest improvement for my wife !! Even tuna salad sandwiches for lunch , which you can buy pre made in the envelope type containers . It helps !!

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Hello @vimarbarr and welcome to the Caregivers: Dementia support group on Mayo Connect. I am so sorry for your recent loss.

I would ask you to be gentle with yourself. I have no doubt that you did the best you could under the circumstances. I'm sure that neither you nor your mom could have known the extent of her infections. It just wasn't something visible or known and that is not something that you can be responsible for.

Alzheimer's has a way of taking away from the patient the ability to feel and understand what is going on with them. It is unfortunate but part of the disease process.

It would be good to find something that you can do to take care of yourself now. Perhaps some counseling would be helpful for you to put the past few years of caregiving in perspective? What types of support system is available to you?

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Hi Teresa,

Thank you for the words of encouragement. The loss is recent so the sting is still fresh. I am considering what avenues I have for support outside of my husband, family and friends.

Thank you.

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Hi @vimarbar, I remember my dad, who had dementia, once had a tooth extraction and did not have anesthetic because he didn't feel any pain.

Recently, I told my husband (moderate Alzheimer's Disease) that he was going for an eye exam and he said, good, he was having trouble with his right eye. He never mentioned it before and after the exam, we found out he needed a cataract extraction as he could see nothing. I had no clue! His vision seemed fine to me and he never complained about it.

As caregivers, we do what we can, but we can only do so much with the information we have. You were giving your mom the best care you could, and the disease derailed it. Don't blame yourself for not being vigilant enough.

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Thank you Teri,

I appreciate you sharing your experience and encouragement. I hope I can offer some support to others being care givers to loved ones. It is such a confusing disease for all involved.

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