Please help with sleep problems

Posted by 0616 @0616, Jun 27, 2020

Please help with sleep problems.

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@johnbishop

@jal333 @lolaemma @gramps and others -- Here's an interesting YouTube video talk by James Nestor you may find helpful.

The Lost Art and Science of Breath - James Nestor | Float Conference 2018:
https://youtu.be/-WWDqKljmCU

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Yup, you can also listen to him talk on the NPR Fresh Air Podcast with Terry Gross.

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@johnbishop

@jal333 @lolaemma @gramps and others -- Here's an interesting YouTube video talk by James Nestor you may find helpful.

The Lost Art and Science of Breath - James Nestor | Float Conference 2018:
https://youtu.be/-WWDqKljmCU

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thanks @jal333 , @johnbishop - The video was very interesting. I guess I'll have to buy the book to discover what he's suggesting 🙂

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@jal333

Micropore works fine. I don't mind the narrow strip, my husband like a little wider strip. I do not COVER my entire lip area, just from nose to chin..sort of.

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This is a reply to All suggestions via a book by Nester. I have obstructive sleep apnea. Obstructive referred to the fact that there is growing opacity of the scar tissue up in the edge of the skull and nasal cartilahe. It has continued to grow and block my breathing. It's too close to the brain to be removed. If my mouth were to be kept shut while I was sleeping I would suffocate. Obstrutive means blocked. I appreciate your collective attempt to help.

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@lolaemma

This is a reply to All suggestions via a book by Nester. I have obstructive sleep apnea. Obstructive referred to the fact that there is growing opacity of the scar tissue up in the edge of the skull and nasal cartilahe. It has continued to grow and block my breathing. It's too close to the brain to be removed. If my mouth were to be kept shut while I was sleeping I would suffocate. Obstrutive means blocked. I appreciate your collective attempt to help.

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Hi @jal333, I also have obstructive sleep apnea but it's not due scar tissue. Actually obstructive doesn't refer to scar tissue according to Mayo Clinic -- "Obstructive sleep apnea occurs when the muscles that support the soft tissues in your throat, such as your tongue and soft palate, temporarily relax. When these muscles relax, your airway is narrowed or closed, and breathing is momentarily cut off. Obstructive sleep apnea is a potentially serious sleep disorder.Jun 5, 2019" -- Obstructive sleep apnea - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/obstructive-sleep-apnea/symptoms-causes/syc-20352090

I'm a mouth breather also and use a full face CPAP mask. I also have a deviated septum but the sleep medicine doctor said it isn't the reason for my sleep apnea but I've always been curious about if it plays a part in my obstructive sleep apnea.

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@johnbishop

Hi @jal333, I also have obstructive sleep apnea but it's not due scar tissue. Actually obstructive doesn't refer to scar tissue according to Mayo Clinic -- "Obstructive sleep apnea occurs when the muscles that support the soft tissues in your throat, such as your tongue and soft palate, temporarily relax. When these muscles relax, your airway is narrowed or closed, and breathing is momentarily cut off. Obstructive sleep apnea is a potentially serious sleep disorder.Jun 5, 2019" -- Obstructive sleep apnea - Symptoms and causes - Mayo Clinic: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/obstructive-sleep-apnea/symptoms-causes/syc-20352090

I'm a mouth breather also and use a full face CPAP mask. I also have a deviated septum but the sleep medicine doctor said it isn't the reason for my sleep apnea but I've always been curious about if it plays a part in my obstructive sleep apnea.

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There is discussion in Breath, by Nestor about deviated septum and breathing issues. An additional thing that has helped me with my snoring breathing is using some of the breathing techniques mentioned. Alternate nostril breathing before eating for example has been helpful in reminding me to not mouth breath but nose breath as much as possible. I am no expert, just know what is working for me, but it is a CHANGE in behavior and sometimes that is hard to do.

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@jal333

There is discussion in Breath, by Nestor about deviated septum and breathing issues. An additional thing that has helped me with my snoring breathing is using some of the breathing techniques mentioned. Alternate nostril breathing before eating for example has been helpful in reminding me to not mouth breath but nose breath as much as possible. I am no expert, just know what is working for me, but it is a CHANGE in behavior and sometimes that is hard to do.

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For the past couple of months I've focused on breathing through my nose even when not using the CPAP and I think you are absolutely correct about breathing through the nose as much as possible. Thanks for the reminder!

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I had a bad patch awhile ago and didn't respond to a question.i don't want it to appear that I took meds to sleep. I was on mood elevators like Ativan for about 27 years until I found out what I needed was counseling for PTSD presenting as anxiety. And distance from the reason for it currently if you can 30 years current.

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@marjou

I have trouble sleeping as my mind doesn't seem to turn off. I did notice that when I took higher doses of Melatonin I would get vivid nightmares. Now take 3 mg which works better. Another is spray my pillows and sheets lightly with lavender mist which seems to help.

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Hi Marjou I hace cronic sleep problems. I am afraid of taking melatonin bc of vivid dreams that I have experience while on it. I have today my appointment at Sleep Medicine at Mayo Clinic. I read you ve had the same problem. How did you manage to use melatonin without having the vivid dreams as a secondary effect

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@becsbuddy

@0616 I’m really sorry to hear that you have sleeping problems. So did I until I got some help. This information from Mayo Clinic is pretty much what I did. I had to make a lot of changes, but eventually it worked.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/insomnia/in-depth/insomnia-treatment/art-20046677

Have you discussed this with your doctor to make sure you haven’t any problems? Give it a try!

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.Hi, I wanted to share my troubles with sleep. O have mild apnea and maybe rem sleep disorder I am afraid of taking melatonin bc of vivid dreams that I have experience while on it. I have today my appointment at Sleep Medicine at Mayo Clinic. I read you ve had the same problem. How did you manage to use melatonin without having these troublesome secondary effects? (Vivid dreams/hallucinations)?

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I recommend that anyone with chronic sleep problems discuss this with their PCP, then see a Sleep Doc if needed. I did this about 10 years ago and was able to improve my sleep dramatically. I am 72 and sleep like a log without awaking most nights.

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