Psychosis or paranoia

Posted by lolly906 @lolly906, May 30, 2019

My son has shown symptoms of pychosis since last Fri. He is 40 we took him in to help him 3 months ago, I never saw this coming, he recently got a good job, don't think its gonna last he refuses to go to any Dr. And we had him placed in protective custody Sunday evening but a mental health assessment said he was ok but he's not I've called Nami and everyone I can think of I have no idea how to help him and how long this will last he is paranoid of phones, Wi-Fi, everything taken things apart. His dad is going to make him leave does anyone have any suggestions or knowledge on this condition? I don't know what more to do I'm physically and emotionally exhausted and all mental health agencies just say call 911 which we have done and they can't do anything without his consent the mental health system is broken I have seen it now firsthand

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@lolly906

That's scary to me at this point, I was hoping he would return to a normal state even if briefly, so I could get him to seek help, yes he must have an underlying cause, but I honestly do not remember any red flags for this, it took us by surprise, although he does have an alcohol problem which when he came here was part of the deal, no drinking and get a job, but yes I will do what I can praying he will change his mind and seek help but at this point he doesn't think he needs any he believes his paranoid world is the reality

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I know, it's hard. If this is his first time, perhaps hell agree to a shot of Invega , I think its what's it's called. Tell him that a shot of that stuff is relatively painless and quick. And yes, paranoia is a problem, it will just get worse. My mayo doctors have given me a medication that could have compromised my chloride levels and contributed to my having a psychosis.

Once you have a psychosis you are prone to have more of them. Medication is needed. I manage it now, keeps them away.

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Hi, @lolly906 - a few other members who might have some input on dealing with your adult son's psychosis or paranoia and how to help him are @etreyz07 @leonarda @yangedd @sirgalahad @susie2525. @mamacita also may have some thoughts.

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@lisalucier

Hi, @lolly906 - a few other members who might have some input on dealing with your adult son's psychosis or paranoia and how to help him are @etreyz07 @leonarda @yangedd @sirgalahad @susie2525. @mamacita also may have some thoughts.

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How do I connect to them? Just message each one? Not sure sorry

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@lolly906

How do I connect to them? Just message each one? Not sure sorry

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Hi, @lolly906 - when members are "tagged," or their usernames are included in a post like I wrote shortly ago, they will receive an email notification that I have done so, alerting them that their participation is requested, if they so choose. They can then click "VIEW & REPLY" in their email notifications and join in this conversation, if they would like.

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@lolly906

How do I connect to them? Just message each one? Not sure sorry

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@lolly906 If you start your post with their @name (just like I started this post to you), your message will get to them.

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@lolly906

That's scary to me at this point, I was hoping he would return to a normal state even if briefly, so I could get him to seek help, yes he must have an underlying cause, but I honestly do not remember any red flags for this, it took us by surprise, although he does have an alcohol problem which when he came here was part of the deal, no drinking and get a job, but yes I will do what I can praying he will change his mind and seek help but at this point he doesn't think he needs any he believes his paranoid world is the reality

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I wanted to add what my Mayo doctors told me regarding my situation, and that is to go to St Mary's when I'm having one and it's active psychosis so that they could run some more tests. Like there's a condition called porphyria (sp?) that I could be evaluated for.

Overall, I never had a psychosis prior to my myasthenia gravis disease starting when I was around 48 years old. But, I don't have a thyroid anymore, and the shock of having MG caused me to forget my thyroid pill i think, plus now, I've learned that my medication can cause psychosis plus my biological mother (that I never had the opportunity meet) had schizophrenia they say. So, perhaps there is some genetics going making me predisposed to it.

I went to an NIH study and the experts there say I don't hav ethe disease schizophrenia because i don't have negative symptoms and I didn't have my first psychosis until my 48th year. Schizophrenia has psychosis and negative symptoms both at the NIH.

Perhaps he has a neurological condition now, like I did? I've been tested for everything, lupus, MS, several diseases can cause psychosis. Frontal Temporal Dementia too.

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@Erinmfs

I wanted to add what my Mayo doctors told me regarding my situation, and that is to go to St Mary's when I'm having one and it's active psychosis so that they could run some more tests. Like there's a condition called porphyria (sp?) that I could be evaluated for.

Overall, I never had a psychosis prior to my myasthenia gravis disease starting when I was around 48 years old. But, I don't have a thyroid anymore, and the shock of having MG caused me to forget my thyroid pill i think, plus now, I've learned that my medication can cause psychosis plus my biological mother (that I never had the opportunity meet) had schizophrenia they say. So, perhaps there is some genetics going making me predisposed to it.

I went to an NIH study and the experts there say I don't hav ethe disease schizophrenia because i don't have negative symptoms and I didn't have my first psychosis until my 48th year. Schizophrenia has psychosis and negative symptoms both at the NIH.

Perhaps he has a neurological condition now, like I did? I've been tested for everything, lupus, MS, several diseases can cause psychosis. Frontal Temporal Dementia too.

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I'll reply to myself đŸ™‚ Here's a wikipeda explanation of psychosis and bromide. My MG medication is called pyrostigmine bromide. I've reported that to my doctors, when I flare with MG I lose my mind. Perhaps its from the Mestinon they think (pyrostigmine bromide). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromism

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@lolly906

Also with an episode of pychosis, do they come out of it at anytime? Or if they don't get meds will he be like this from now on? I mean is there any hope my son will come out of this even for a day without taking meds? I've never had this happen and don't know anything about it much I'm wondering if there will be a possibility of this episode stopping even for a day or so

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No way to answer that question, @lolly906, until your son has a diagnosis.
As it could be caused by a neurological problem, dementia problem, thyroid or other endocrinology disorder. He needs to be seen by a team of doctors (preferably at a medical center with a multidisciplinary approach, like Mayo or a university medical center) in order to get the correct diagnosis. Most likely medication and therapy of some kind will be needed.

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@hopeful33250

No way to answer that question, @lolly906, until your son has a diagnosis.
As it could be caused by a neurological problem, dementia problem, thyroid or other endocrinology disorder. He needs to be seen by a team of doctors (preferably at a medical center with a multidisciplinary approach, like Mayo or a university medical center) in order to get the correct diagnosis. Most likely medication and therapy of some kind will be needed.

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@hopeful33250 @lolly906 Teresa is correct about being seen by a team to get a solid diagnosis. Lolly, you mentioned your son has an alcohol problem and moved home? I know that extreme alcohol addiction can play havoc with mental fitness, also is there a chance that he ingested or tried something beyond alcohol, that triggered this? If he is living in your house, and you are concerned for your safety, you need to get your county mental health involved. Also, contact your local law enforcement and voice your concerns for yours and his safety. Many agencies have a CIT (Crisis Intervention Team) to help you. Keep notes of what you are seeing, as they may be needed for evidence. While your son is in a compromised mental state, he is probably resistant to any help, and will deny any problem.
Please keep your safety foremost, and come back to our cyber table to let us know how you are doing.
Ginger

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I would advise to see a psychiatrist, at first people around my town thought I had one illness that after seeing 2 psychiatrists I was told I do not have. Try to see one, find out what the illness is, then get the right medicine, keep seeing a psychiatrist and keep that medicine monitored. Also talk therapy and dbt which is amazingly helpful. DBT by Marsha Linehan has helped me soo much! The book is available at amazon.com. With medicine, a psychiatrist, being monitored, and learning how to cope with difficult situations like anxiety, social anxiety etc... that truly helps. I think it really matters to also do things that he likes to do, what are his hobbies, his talents? Encourage him to do them, go the psychiatrist, get the proper medicine, practice DBT Therapy. Marsha Linehan is truly awesome in my opinion for her knowledge. Encourage your son to read it, if he can't read it to him, support him and tell him he's loved. Millions of people have some sort of illness not just him, have him remember that have him understand that he is cared about and that he is loved.

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