Does anyone with AFIB NOT take blood thinners?

Posted by yorlik @yorlik, Feb 14, 2019

cow aorta valve replacement 11/2018. Afib started 2 days after; stayed 1 month then gone - until now. day 4 of off an on afib now. I do NOT want to be put back on blood thinner! Heading to ER now but will watch for replies here... thanks.

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@jlbyrd975

I guess the metoprolol keeps my heart rate low enough that it doesn't trigger it. I was trying to wean off of it this week to see if it helped my back pain but today my pulse is over 100 so that's not gonna work.

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Back pain try cbd. I had back pain and leg pain cbd seems to control both although it is expensive the alternative ( pain ) is worse. One oz in the am and 1/2 oz in evening pain is bearable
Also found that triggers cause most of my arrhythmia episodes caffine and alcohol (any kind and minimal amounts
On xeralto daily for 9 yrs . Only bleeding episodes were from 2 Falls no external blood and over soon with only ugly looks

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I wouldn't dare. I am too afraid of having a stroke. I know a guy who had a massive stroke. He was only in his early 60s. If his GF hadn't been home he would have died. I've been on Eliquis since March this year + Diltiazem to keep my heart from beating too fast.

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@yorlik

And unless I misread what watchman does, it does NOT prevent clots - it simply ALERTS your doctor if one might (or does?) happen! It is just a MONITOR thing is it not? It does NOTHING active to eliminate clots. Am I wrong?

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I saw on TV (PBS) that Watchman prevents blood from going into that chamber of the heart where clots tend to form from the heart not beating regularly (because the blood does not get pumped through fast enough). I could be wrong, but that's what I gathered from the short clip. It was on the Sunday morning "Innovations in Medicine" show. You might be able to look it up online.

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@catmom777

I wouldn't dare. I am too afraid of having a stroke. I know a guy who had a massive stroke. He was only in his early 60s. If his GF hadn't been home he would have died. I've been on Eliquis since March this year + Diltiazem to keep my heart from beating too fast.

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When I went to ER for 140 bpm Afib they gave me diltiazem intravenously and in 15 seconds it dropped my heart rate to 90-ish... So I know it works. ER sent me home with prescription for it also... Next week follow up with my heart Dr. : he immidiately dropped the diltiazem prescript saying something to the effect that it was great for the Er but should not be used as a prescription - for me; he implied for anyone. Hmmm...

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Your experience is interesting. If your heart rate went into natural rhythm completely in 15 seconds, that's great. My experience watching the monitors during afib is that the heart rate goes up and down until it finally goes into "normal sinus rhythm" (I think is the term.) Yes I was also given intravenous Diltiazem in the 3 times I went to the hospital with afib. They also gave me prescription for Diltiazem, which I've been taking for 5 years. I'm 85 and it takes about 7-10 hours for my afib to calm, with a drip, or at home without. Perhaps it's different for younger people. Interesting how doctors vary - just as much as we patients do.
If you read about afib, you'll see that doctors might treat with anti-rate drugs like Diltiazem or anti-rhythm drugs like Tikosyn (Dofetilide) or both (my experience.) Or neither, like your experience. Hope that all is well with you now. I've just found that too many meetings or work can bring on afib for me, age 85.

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I wrote a long reply to your wonderful post only to have it lost.

Let me summarize it with: I hope with all my non Afib heart that you no longer have too many work meetings!! You deserve RELAXATION at 85!!!!!

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I am also considering the watchman implant and would like to comunnicate with someone who had gone through the procedure.. I am 81 years old with peripheral neuropathy in both legs.

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Had the watchman implant , one year ago. Best thing I could have done. No longer need a blood thinner , other than a baby aspirin a day. Procedure done at mayo clinic in Rochester. Mn.

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@yorlik

Thanks @1943! Neat to learn of new technology like this! My case is fresh restart of A-fib for some reason so too early for a major decision like this cool device...

I Spent the day at ER; came away with two new prescripts: 240mg Cardizem (diltiazem) & 20mg Xarelto... The intervenious shot of Cardizem slowed my constant 142 BPM rate on arrival to 75-ish, & Xarelto was because I complained of the $450/mo cost of the Elequis I had after my operation. HA! Xarelto is $ 350! At least I was able to talk them out of their desire to keep me in the hospital! I certainly can drive myself back again if BPM go up above 120 or so. We all know the A-fib is not a reason by itself to go to ER, but the doc said 'any constant >100 BPM warrants a visit to the ER.

My question remains: Does anyone knowingly have A-fib and is NOT on a blood thinner? Thanks.

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I do not and will not. Looking at the side effects, I do not wish to take it. Instead I take turmeric, garlic capsules catch, what’s your natural blood thinners.

I know my blood is thin enough because I bruise easily.

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you should at least have a blood test done to find out what your INR number is.

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